texan41

Awesome stuff happening in Dallas I'm really excited. I know there is more to come.

I actually liked that street a lot because of the older feel that it has compared to the rest of the metro. Very few areas in the metro have the feel that east Dallas/Lakewood have. I like it more than the park cities and I really wish developers don't tear down anything more. There is tons of vacant land in east Dallas. I hope they build there. Lakewood is already beautiful as it is.

Lmao.. You've got to be kidding me. ONE tower appears to be U/C in downtown. Uptown has a grip of buildings U/C though.

As for that fantasy list of "planned" buildings, keep dreaming...

You say the name and who shows up?

See the thing is that you can actually walk from Downtown Dallas to Uptown Dallas. Can't really say that for Houston.

Houston is all about how the towers look from the freeway and from afar.

The Dallas galleria area kind of reminds me of Houston. I don't know what it is... Just the whole design of it reminds me of Houston.

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/commercial-real-estate/headlines/20160210-att-hires-firm-to-study-downtown-dallas-office-options.ece

Hopefully they do build in Perots site.

Yes you are tight. It does look better.

No sale. I still prefer 2727 Westlayan and wouldn't trade it for One Uptown. It makes a much bolder statement and commands much more attention - at least in the daylight when you can actually compare what was built - night lighting can really be a crutch for buildings in Dallas and this one's no different. Also, I prefer Westlayan's overall design more. There is a lot more to architecture than urban planning when you are comparing buildings. McKinney is a better street, but 2727 Westlayan is the better building.

I'll take 2727 Westlayan any day over One Uptown. Even it's proximity to high end shopping is better. One Uptown will be great for walking to restaurant and bars, but like everyone else in Texas, I own a car so that doesn't really sell it to me at all.

I realize that this is the Dallas section of HAIF and I don't expect to win anyone over here on this thread, but building for building, Houston won the bigger and better prize in this comparison. You have every right to prefer something built in your own back yard if you want even if it is a bit predictable on this HAIF thread.

Urban design is one thing. Architectural statement is something else. They can certainly go together, but each can be appreciated independently, especially in cities where the vast majority of the area is not really that walkable to begin with. That goes for both Houston and Dallas. Sidewalk interaction is great, but I think most will be viewing these two buildings from their cars and at a distance for a long time to come, not counting the privileged .01% who live in the immediate area.

Luckily, there are quite a few new buildings going up in downtown Houston that will have a nice street presence. One Market, the new Marriott convention hotel and the 2 new Skyhouses built right on the Red Line - among other new midrises downtown are right in the middle of it. They are all totally sidewalk accessible. If the ability to walk to bars and restaurants is your main architectural requirement, there are other buildings in Houston one can look to.

2727 Westlayan is tall building in the distance on the right of the new Amegy Bank HQ tower in the foreground.

Here's a photo that shows the night lighting.

So once again you basically said that 2727 Wesleyan is better because it's taller. But okay okay I digress. We just have different priorities of what we want in our cities.

And with all due respect many Houston people get too caught up in how cool skylines look from afar. Sic'EmBears is right. One Uptown is stellar because it adds a lot more to the neighborhood and increases the desirability of the place than if you you made it look cool for people driving in 75 or 35 or whatever freeway. More and more of these is what creates a true urban environment; they don't have to be very very tall in order to create a good urban environment.

Here we go again smh.

I bought and am currently buying property around there; don't know much about anything but hope it turns out to be a good investment. Do you guys think that this park would be plus for my investment?

Why can't we be friends....whhhyyy can't weeee be friends...

Because some people here get offended when others post pretty renderings of buildings planned in Dallas lol. They start telling us that it might be that WE are insecure.

If you scroll up the thread a bit you will see an official groundbreaking. So what's fake about that?

Yes I care what Houstonians think because they are one, if not the only Texas city, in the same tier as us architecturally.

Dallas is basically Houston's younger brother. Are we not supposed to bounce ideas off our older brother for opinions?

Dallas and Houston are the biggest cities in Texas. San Antonio doesn't even compete with Austin and it's fallen way behind but hey thanks for the expansive city limits San Antonio has they can call themselves the second largest city in Texas.

Nah I just come here for further discussion sometimes the other sites get boring. I don't understand this type of behavior on the Internet. Only here is there really a competition between people from both cities but some of the people here are ridiculously pessimistic about Dallas. I remeber once in DallasMetropolis there was this guy trying to put down Houston and predicting that its economy would fail because of the oil or whatever and people got pissed off about it even if they weren't from Houston. They didn't allow Houston bashing.

Here on the other hand some users here seem like the type of people that would smile if they heard that Dallas was doing poorly.

I heard the the 635 expansion was built with a possibility of a subway parallel to the tollway.

Skyline grow? Am I wrong in thinking everything proposed for that development so far has been 3-4 stories..?

In this video the developer say that the Midtown skyline will look like Uptown Dallas in 8 years. Gives me some hope that something awesome is coming and it's close to me.

I really really hope it turns out looking like that if not better but realistically I'll just be glad that they are getting rid of soooo much surface parking and a dying mall even if it's not all tall like that.

My cheap movies are going to be over when the new theater is finished though. I can watch a movie there for about $3 a ticket.

That was my last off topic post. Sorry guys

I would give a tour to Houstonion but you never know who is and who is not a serial killer

Houston is the best city ever! It has the widest highways, the most construction projects going on, a lot of HOV lanes, and an awesome transit system!

He's our forum kitty..

The metroplex is doing great right now, it's just not as noticable unless you drive out to the suburbs.

Speaking of suburbs, I'm just curious how all of yalls mid-high rise corporate campuses 20 miles outside of downtown make for a "much more urban city"..?

Both cities have been making huge waves the last decade or two to better urbanization. I don't think either really has a major advantage.

Oh it's very noticeable whenever you drive through Woodall Rodgers or 35 right by downtown. I was just downtown last night and I counted at least 7 cranes all around each other in Victory Park and Uptown. It's not noticeable to people who don't want to notice it because they feel that their city is vastly superior. Downtown will soon see more cranes with Halls condo tower, The mixed use hotel and apartments in front of the Trammel Crow Center, and the south Asian museum.

Those mid rise corporate campuses doesn't mean nothing is happening in the core. If anything it helps the whole region since some corporate workers of Toyota have been looking into renting in uptown and I know of one who is buying a condo there. In my lake highlands neighborhood several Toyota employees have moved in. It's not like like they all like living in suburbs. Most that have families I assume will but there is many young people who won't.

You should familiarize yourself with houston a little more.

Maybe I do but many here need to familiarize themselves with Dallas too. Houstononion is always "just here" and comes back to write about how much Dallas sucks. Hmmm

Maybe I'm just now realizing he is a troll...

Well at least statup companies are the ones mainly looking for space in downtown Dallas. The new regional US patent office chose downtown Dallas for its office over Houston and Austin.

I would be very happy if the future of downtown Dallas evolved into something around the tech industry rather than trying to woo companies who are already established and need corporate campuses in the suburbs or else no one would want to go to work. With the west end being redeveloped into a tech hub along with deep Ellum and parts of West Dallas im okay with what's going on. It's not all gloom and doom.

I know that in Houston you guys are used to having big corporate offices with nothing around it to even make it a destination unless you work there but here in Dallas I would say that we are heading towards having a much more urban city than Houston.

Sic'embears are you champion dallas from Dallas metropolis?

In Houston we have lots of FFA applications does not mean it will get built.  Calm down and eat your turkey.  I'll always wait for the cranes then jump around! Meow!  

Meow? that was funny