Dallasboi

I love London.

The April 2005 population count of 6,013,650 million people is for the DFW Metroplex only. Since the official 2000 census count, DFW has added 738,800 people as of April 2005. Basically, it's a combination of what used to be two seperate metro areas; Dallas Metro and Fort Worth Metro and all the cities that were part of those two metro areas. It does not include the outer lying areas that are still considered to be in the "North Central Texas region"... Witchita Falls, Sherman/Denison, etc. are not included in the population count for the DFW Metroplex. The reason that the Fort Worth and Dallas metro areas were combined by the U.S.Census Bureau is because the commuter traffic patterns indicated that these two metro areas were actually one metro area because of the high number of people who were travelling between the FW and Dallas metro areas for work and play.

The DFW Metroplex incompasses all of the 5 core counties: Dallas, Tarrant, Denton, Collin and Rockwall. The Metroplex also spills over into a portion of 4 other counties; Parker, Johnson, Ellis, and Kaufman. The North Central Texas region is comprised of the following 16 counties; Wise, Denton, Collin, Hunt, Palo Pinto, Parker, Tarrant, Dallas, Rockwall, Kaufman, Erath, Hood, Somervell, Johnson, Ellis, and Navarro counties

The confusion comes from poor choices in naming conventions and inconsistent use of correct names. North Texas is actually called "North Central Texas", and refers to the entire area surrounding the DFW Metroplex and streches from the Oklahoma border down to Central Texas. It is the same regional designation that is used to refer to West Texas, South Texas, Central Texas, East Texas, etc. There is a big difference between DFW Metroplex and North Central Texas (or North Texas). Sometimes the term "North Texas" is incorrectly used to describe the "DFW Metroplex".

I hope that clears up a little bit of the confusion.

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Well said willy!!!!

I just talk to my friend in Frisco. We were talking and I mention to him that I recently joined this forum so he logs in and looks at most of the threads and tells me that Dallas is losing upscale retail and that it was true that it was because it was all spread out. He told me that Willow Bend just closed the countrys' first Armani Collezioni but was made into an Emporio Armani. He also told me Loro Piana closed in Williow Bend. Dallas exclusives are closing among those Calvin Klein is closing and not to mention PRADA and Christian Dior that closed in Highland Park Village awhile back..

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And of course you loved to hear that!!!

I agree.

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Wow...................You are talented!!!! .......and boring

Shopping Districts? Are you crazy! the Houston Galleria aka Uptown is the area the Galleria mall is in, not just the mall that is Houstons shopping district. And you say Houston doesn't have a shopping district? Atlanta doesn't have a shopping district.

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Ok....is it the Gallaria district? What do yall call it? How may UPSCALE stores are outside of the Galleria?Better yet...put it like this...If the Galleria was not there, Would it still be considered an UPSCALE shopping DISTRICT?

Yeah but what all those cities have is that they're upscale shops are steps away from each other unlike Dallas wich has upscale shops miles apart.

NYC = Fifth Ave/Madison

Chicago = Magnificent Mile

Miami = Bal Harbor

Atlanta = Lenox/Phipps Plaza

LA = Rodeo Dr./South Coast Plaza

Houston = The Galleria

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First off I don't think Houston should even be included in this short list you have created. The above cities you named all have upscale shopping DISTRICTS, Houston only has a shopping MALL(Galleria). Yes I agree with you , Dallas upscale shopping is somewhat spread out.........But I think that is a plus simply because when people shop in Dallas (Visistors and Locals) They have the luxury of entering and experiencing different atmospheres, different energy's, different attractions, all in different UPSCALE venues....In Houston all yo have is the galleria......Yeah it's a Huge mall but once you visit it(shoppers) You won't have to for a looooong time because you(the shopper) will see everything Houston Has to offer all in 30 minutes. The Houston Galleria is a Great mall and I do like it better than "Galleria Dallas", but at the same time Galleria dallas is just one single selection of the many to choose from for a great evening of upscale shopping. Another reason I think being spread out is better is because people like Choices. Some days people might not want to deal with a big busy mall like the Houston Galleria, now what are they to do? In dallas you would just go down the road to a more intimate setting like Hiland Park Village or any other open air upscale center. It's all about diversity.It's better to offer the public many choices for a shopping evenig that way it makes it just that much easier to please evrybody at every age when they Visit Dallas!

Either way, it's actually all simple:  If you are in the city limits than you are in that city.  Otherwise you are not and stop claiming you are because then that would be bull____.  And nobody likes bull____.

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Ok Yadda Yadda Yadda........If I took a trip tomorrow to the woodlands and then back to Dallas...Yes...I would say I went to Houston.Come on guys we've been through this a million times.They are included with dallas because of commute patterns.

That is pretty much my point.

I agree that FW needs more glass and glitter and that it pales in comparison to Dallas and Houston, but you're underestimating the size and number of buildings in FW a bit. But, given the "Dallas" in your handle that's not unexpected. Dallas has always looked down its nose at FW... that probably won't change anytime soon. But, FW is also growing at a pace that it will more than likely be bigger than Dallas in 20 years--according to most experts.

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Ok willy......That's just like saying the city of Dallas' population would catch up with Houston's poulation which is about double the size. If someone said this to you would you believe it?..No. While it is possible for this to happen, I really think it would take way more than 20 yrs. Yes Ft. Worth is growing @ a fast rate,and it probably is possible for Ft. worth to surpass dallas' population, but for that to happen dallas' stats would have to stay the same,not gainig any residences for a 20 yr. stretch.........And that's not the like of Dallas to sit still. In fact..in 20 years Dallas will be huge!!!!

Thanks for the context.  It's good to hear a different perspective on these things.

While I'm glad that Fort Worth's occupancy rate is so high, I'd be disappointed to see an office or residential tower go up there.  I'd rather see a medium-sized Art Deco style building.  Save the glass and glitter for Dallas.  Let Fort Worth do its own thing.  I only visited Fort Worth once, but really loved the feel of its downtown.

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When Did Glass And glitter become a bad thing? I think that Ft. Worth has preserved and restored enough old garrages. I think it is time to start Proposing more edgy ,daring projects for this is the only true way to grow up as a city.Not saying that Ft. Worth is not established but It could use a bit more BIG BOY stuff to really be able to compare itself to it's fellow big brothers(Houston & Dallas). Put it this way ....Yah Ft. Worth's downtown is 100% leased and yadda yadda yadda.But they only have about three sky scrapers. Who couldn't fill Three skyscrapers to the max? And then the three that they do have are all under 30 stories.

I wouldn

Looks like every other apartment in Dallas to me.

Did y'all see the DMN article on apartment demand in Dallas this Monday?

Apparently, they can't build them fast enough.

I don't think this is a good thing at all.

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Then you must hate the Concorde apartments Down there then.

Midtowncoog Quote:(I used to work on Denton Drive. Did lunch at Hunky's, hit the card shop, Union Station after work, etc. ")

How long ago was this. Did you enjoy it or not? It must have been in the 80"s because Union station is not a typical hang out.

Quote:("I much prefer the grittyness of Montrose")

Is that just because you are from Houston or u really copared the two destinations.? I think Montrose could become a successfull district if the just go ahead an put some planning into it and concentrate more on a pedestrian enviromen(like Oak Lawn)it would be just as or even more affluent than oaklawn.Don't get me wrong....I can point out a million things that could be better in the Oak llawn district but it seems to be on the right tract for the future. However I do think that Houston's JR's Blows Dallas's away and I live here in Dallas.And over-all I think Houston will be just fine.......I'll visit anytime.

Ok........Honestly....How many of u houstonians would go see it? I think quite a few of u would, just out of curiosity. Or just to have another detailed reason to say it was a bad Idea.

So do you think this will be used as a marketing trick to uproot the previous stereotypical plague that's been lingering over the dallas area since the 80's tv show? I think it would be really cool If they did. This gives us a chance to update the images that pop up in peoples minds when they hear about Dallas. QWe could really take advantage of this to show some of the newer modern projects and districts that now exist that we didn't have in the 80's. what do you guys in here think?

West Grey Guy...U are Halarious!!!The montrose neighborhood Is far more creepy than Oak Lawn. Now don't get me wrong The crime statistics may not say the same but as far as feeling safe ...I have to go with Oak Lawn. Houstonians refer to this area as an area comparable to oak lawn but it is not as weel planned and concentrated as the oak Lawn area and it is not as affluent. I did have a great time at "Bartini's" but West Grey I'll walk alone in Oak Lawn at4am fast befor montrose....Sorry!!!

I visited houston last weekend and I loved it.As far as it looking newer than Dallas I would have to say Yes and no. The reason I say yes is because I noticed that houston has alot of projects in the works and when they are complete it will feel newer.But on the other hand I would have to agree with the fact that with all of the new things going on down there being spread out it's somewhat a little harder to get the full feel of being a newer city.Dallas Presents this new feel a little easier because the areas that are considered newer in dallas are bigger, therefore you feel like you are in a whole new city when you visit these areas. And the fact that they are closer to each other it makes the city newer as a whole...............Both cities are Great IMO.Just two different feels.