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Please continue the discussion in the existing topic below. http://swamplot.com/apartment-developer-ready-to-buy-landmarked-heights-waterworks-land-wants-to-know-whatcha-think/2016-11-18/ Passing this one along long since it is a huge piece of land and on 19th street (with a second parcel on 20th). Please let it not be another apt complex. Note the public meeting slated for next Tuesday at the 12th St fire station.

I wonder if they know what "420" also is commonly known for/as? Easy Google search if you are wondering wth I'm referring it.

As much as I hate to get this banter started again when it's finally quieted down, I saw this today and realized, we are not the only knuckleheaded neighborhood in the country.... http://www.today.com/money/neighbors-want-architects-dream-home-torn-down-its-devastating-2D79606820 Last quote from the article. "I don't think it's appropriate to exert your tastes on other people's property rights''

Another head scratcher is the recently approved 5,500 sq ft house in the 1500 block of Allston...approved in 4th quarter of 2013 sometime. Slightly larger lot at ~8,000', but take a drive down the street and see if you think it is "compatable". And this went through HAHC and with a heated protest before the committee.

Excellent point.

I guess I am just a preservationist of things that I own, and choose to not tell other what they can and can't do with their own property. Personally, I think that all cars should have white walls facing out, because that's the way it used to be. And I feel like I should be able to force others to follow these guidelines, no matter the cost and regardless of what they like. You should just stay out of my business. Do your own thing. But leave me alone. If you want a leaky window, have at it. But don't tell me what I can and can't do with my property. If you want to control it, then BUY it yourself. I'm amazed that you think otherwise honestly.

I enjoy how s3mh has no problem calling out Brie and putting her on the clock for a response but goes silent when asked to respond to some things, especially when he is so blatantly incorrect. Maybe he thought it was a rhetorical question? It wasn't. So, I'd like to know how someone like me can be anti-ordinance but absolutely for preservation??? Just curious. Silence will be deemed to be in agreement.

You're not paying attention again.... You have had three examples in the past two days of people against the ordinance, but who live in and have spent money restoring hundred year old homes (oh, and HAHC has even publicly praised our efforts by including our homes as shining examples of what good additions should look like). Personally, we're probably $700k into this bungalow. Yes, we could own a larger, newer home, in the Heights even. And we could have just torn down and built new. But we chose to buy, reno, expand, and reno some more because we love this old, breezy, leaky, inefficient home. So, please explain to me how I am anti-preservation? I already know I am anti-ordinance so I have that half of your equation covered.

That is interesting Red. And really annoying. I know there was chatter right after it passed about lawsuits that would revoke it. Does anyone know if that is still going on? Curious. My guess is it will take someone getting pinned by the HAHC and finally running it up the court system, and likely someone who is a lawyer so they could burn sweat equity instead of cash. Oh, and thanks Brie for letting us know about the Starr's winning today. I was able to fire off a letter this morning.

Mark me down as one of those who has done a major expansion, and we are currently on our 4th project inside, for a 1915 bungalow. We did the expansion before the ordinance, but retroactively applied for and received a COA. In fact, our house is used as an EXAMPLE in the HAHC handbook as an acceptable expansion. And guess what, I hate the HAHC. It was underhanded and is over reaching and I don't understand why anyone would turn over that much power to so few individuals about something worth so much to their new worth. Am I a preservationist? Heck yeah. Love the old house, leaky windows and all. But give me the right to make decisions about my own property. I recall a couple coming around gathering signatures a few years ago (for the ordinance). I told them as an example, that I didn't like their rims on their car, and they should change them out. Didn't belong on that car, in my opinion. And come to think of it, they were one of the main supporters of the ordinance and within a few months of approval, what did they do....moved out of the area. Thanks for that. (Off the soap box...next man/woman up).

YAWN!!! Can we just let this thing die already?

We are pulling for you Briekelman. What they are doing to you is beyond unbelievable. It is appalling. We live in a 1915 bungalow and they use our home as an example of acceptable additions. We were against this ordinance precisely for this reason. It is unclear and subjective. I can only hope your pain is short-lived and possibly be the catalyst for some changes to the ordinance to make it go away ideally, or at least amended. Good luck!! We are pulling for you Briekelman. What they are doing to you is beyond unbelievable. It is appalling. We live in a 1915 bungalow and they use our home as an example of acceptable additions. We were against this ordinance precisely for this reason. It is unclear and subjective. I can only hope your pain is short-lived and possibly be the catalyst for some changes to the ordinance to make it go away ideally, or at least amended. Good luck!!

We hit Happy Fatz on Saturday night after dinner at Glass Wall. Skipped dessert just to try it out. It is a great little bungalow with a cozy feel and GREAT desserts. Some small items, and some UUUUGE cakes slices. We tried a variety of bite size chocolate covered cheesecake balls and a couple mini red velvet cupcakes. They also had some little cake balls on a stick (couldn't fit one of those in my gullet). All were great. I think they'll do well here. Perfect for an after dinner snack. And they also serve lunches which I wasn't aware of before. We hit it again tonight on a whim on our way home. Again, great. Owners are super friendly, so we're pulling for them. Go check them out.

Here is an email I received from Suzy....so nice of her. I responded asking why she didn't bother to respond to my emails during the debate itself, but instead chose to respond now....I copied my response below as well. So damn mad at all of them. Mr. XXXX, Thank you for contacting Mayor Parker and Council Members regarding the historic preservation ordinance and the transition process. I can see you feel strongly about this issue; however, what is posted for Council’s consideration on Wednesday is whether or not to accept the reports from Planning regarding the boundaries of the six existing districts. Sincerely, Suzy Hartgrove Public Affairs Manager Planning & Development Department AND HERE IS MY RESPONSE: I take note that you can reply to my letter for this request, but did not bother to respond to my other letter during the debate over the changes to the ordinance. I can’t believe how over-reaching this whole process has been, with total disregard for the wants and desires of the constituents within the districts. I can already envision the cost of the lawsuits that will inevitably occur due to this process. That being said, thank you for your note. Regards,

Here's one for you. I live in a historic district (HW), live in a historic bungalow which we renovated 4 years ago (before the stupidity). I even signed the original petition once our work was done, and went back to get a COA after the fact to qualify for the tax break. And I hate what has been done to me and to others who were duped. Heck, they even used our house as an EXAMPLE of what an acceptable addition is in their advertising during the debate. So, S3MH, am I anti-preservation??? Nope, anti-ordinance.