bachanon Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 it's not only about oil: http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morning_call/2014/04/chevron-phillips-kicks-off-6-billion-construction.html?page=all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Just found out. This project is on hold according to chevron. 3q isn't happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlftc Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Chevron Phillips is a separate company. It is owned 50% by Chevron and 50% by Phillips 66 and has its headquarters in The Woodlands. Chevron has had a capital budget of ~$40 billion per year for the past several years and plans to stay in the $35-40 Billion range for the next several years. The 50% of the Chevron Phillips budget that is accounted to Chevron is still a small component of its projected spending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Just found out. This project is on hold according to chevron. 3q isn't happening Disappointing. More overruns on the Australian gas plant? Or another excuse? Edited November 10, 2014 by toxtethogrady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Sad. Oh well, maybe we'll get lucky and have new leadership at Chevron decide to move corporate HQ from San Ramon to Houston and scale this up a bit. Any chance Chevron will lease space at 800 Bell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 There are a few people on this forum with actual knowledge of this project. I dont know any big wigs at chevron, but i do know this: HOK has produced 100% CD drawings that are ready for permit. The contractor (Skanska) now has a big team working full time on this project. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Disappointing. More overruns on the Australian gas plant? Or another excuse? My information came from someone who deals with the financial side of things. So, i assume it has something to do with their financial position and financial outlook. But, with big companies, information is not always transperant. He might be consider the "hold" as the year to start this... thats why we have to take it with a grain of salt. There are a few people on this forum with actual knowledge of this project. I dont know any big wigs at chevron, but i do know this: HOK has produced 100% CD drawings that are ready for permit. The contractor (Skanska) now has a big team working full time on this project. Now as in they just started putting resources in this? Is 3Q start confirmed by Skanska? My source was not a big wig, and I hope he just is possibly incorrect. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Just because they have the plans being worked on doesn't mean it will be built any time soon. My father worked on the second Anadarko tower in the Woodlands back in the early 2000's and they only just finished constructing it. This way, when Chevron finally decides to construct this tower, they will have minimal design updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I don't think Skanska's going to hang around if nothing's going to happen for years. They have their own Downtown skyscraper to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Why the hell would they walk away from a project as big as this? They'll do the design, Chevron will pay them a large sum, and they will have a small team dedicated to updating as necessary. If you think that Skanska has the entire company focused on this one project then you really don't what you're talking about. They get paid whether the tower goes up or not. That's how the construction works works. Edited November 10, 2014 by BigFootsSocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 They don't need their staff hanging around a jobsite where nothing is going to happen. Chevron's not the only game in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 This is starting to feel a little bit like a game of "he loves me, he loves me not." Varying posts suggest this will or will not happen in Q3 2015. Hopefully, Chevron will provide some official clarification in the not-too-distant future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 This is starting to feel a little bit like a game of "he loves me, he loves me not." Varying posts suggest this will or will not happen in Q3 2015. Hopefully, Chevron will provide some official clarification in the not-too-distant future. it's not happening in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The tower loves me not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 They don't need their staff hanging around a jobsite where nothing is going to happen. Chevron's not the only game in town.Obviously not, but Chevron will still pay them to design it. No company is above making money. Skanska wins whether this goes up now or a few years. How is that hard to understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Obviously not, but Chevron will still pay them to design it. No company is above making money. Skanska wins whether this goes up now or a few years. How is that hard to understand?Seriously? Skanska is NOT a design firm, they are a construction company. They only make money if they BUILD the tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Heating up in here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I have breaking OFFICIAL NEWS from top CHEVRON SOURCES:I was told that this project MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN in 2015, and/or in the forseeable future.There you have it folks, straight from the horses mouth. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Seriously? Skanska is NOT a design firm, they are a construction company. They only make money if they BUILD the tower. I have to respectfully correct you. Skanska is a design-build firm. Which means they have structural engineers on staff to design their projects. That being said, the amound of money they make on design is chump change compared to construction. http://www.usa.skanska.com/about-skanska/our-services/Design-buildIn 1989, Skanska became one of the first construction firms to offer the advantages of design-build construction to our clients. Since then, we have been awarded numerous turnkey design-build contracts, including site selection analysis and configuration and some of the largest transportation systems built in the U.S. Skanska’s expertise extends to our private clients' needs for world-class facilities that are delivered on-time and within budget. As a leader of the consortium that constructed JFK’s AirTrain Light Rail System, one of the nation’s first billion dollar design-build-operate-maintain projects, we have a proven track record of successful design-build project delivery. Edited November 10, 2014 by Purdueenginerd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 thank you Purdue... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I have breaking OFFICIAL NEWS from top CHEVRON SOURCES:I was told that this project MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN in 2015, and/or in the forseeable future.There you have it folks, straight from the horses mouth.Howard - Mr Ed does not count as an actual source, nor does he work for Chevron. He works for Texaco ...get it straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Glad that little tempest swept over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 HOK is the architect and engineer of record on this project. Skanska is in construction manager / general contractor. On this project they will not serve in a design build position. Skanska is currently planning the construction: cranes, schedule, city coordination, etc. Cool story time: There are steel columns on this project that will weight in excess of 900lbs per LF. There are less that 20 cranes in the world right now that make the cut for this project (weight limit, availability, cost, etc). Again, I am not 100% anything. I am just telling you what these people are working on. If you really want to know what the schedule is talk to someone at Kone or Mitsubishi. The elevator guys are always involved early and end up with all the juicy details. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I'm man enough to admit when Im wrong but you guys don't know if I'm a guy or girl so I'm not going to.*cough*sorrytoxtethogrady*cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) HOK is the architect and engineer of record on this project. Skanska is in construction manager / general contractor. On this project they will not serve in a design build position.Skanska is currently planning the construction: cranes, schedule, city coordination, etc. Cool story time: There are steel columns on this project that will weight in excess of 900lbs per LF. There are less that 20 cranes in the world right now that make the cut for this project (weight limit, availability, cost, etc).Again, I am not 100% anything. I am just telling you what these people are working on. If you really want to know what the schedule is talk to someone at Kone or Mitsubishi. The elevator guys are always involved early and end up with all the juicy details.When a steel frame is erected in a modern skycraper, dont they normally use drawworks in the basement to hoist all the steel beams into place?I know thats how that built the Transco tower. Edited November 11, 2014 by Howard Huge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 not to get overly nerdy, but they will likely use a Favelle Favco or Liebherr crane. Typical on something like this would be a luffing jib crane. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 not to get overly nerdy, but they will likely use a Favelle Favco or Liebherr crane. Typical on something like this would be a luffing jib crane.Youre not being overly nerdy or technical, I am a crane operator, thats why I asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 *cough*sorrytoxtethogrady*cough* No apology needed; you're doing fine, man, er, ma'am, er whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) No apology needed; you're doing fine, man, er, ma'am, er whatever... I'm pretty sure he's a man, if you didn't catch the love feud him and some other poster had in one of the subforums. That and his user profile says male. But maybe he was born female, or trans. Whatever makes you happy! It's great we're getting a steel structure! I pray every night they add just 5-10 more floors to really level the skyline, or some magnificent LED crown. Edited November 12, 2014 by Montrose1100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 "Magnificent LED Crown" - Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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