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I think this is a bad bond and want to vote no on it fo rthe overall plan. What I do understand is that each on of these projects listed int eh bond have to get voted on by the boardindividually. Which means som eprojects could get taken out, or modified. It happened inteh 2004 bond. So there is a chance that this bond could shrink after it gets passed (if it passes)

I am holding judgement on teh bond, I would like to see it go back to the drawing board, but the realist in me and the KISD way are telling me it won't. I don't want o vote yes, but I feel K4A is not totalling in the realm of reality on their ideas. KISD will not sell the KHS property, it will never happen, why pursue it?

And that door on assumptions swings both ways.

..door on assumptions...Ha ha ha. But I actually read the Web site and compared it to Klein ISD Web site data. I don't think you have much of a leg to stand on since you won't even read it.

But beside the point - why won't KISD sell the KHS property? I think it needs to be pursued because it is the solution that meets everyone's needs. If the administration is so set in their ways that they can't do what's best for the district, then maybe it's time for a change of leadership. Why are you so pessimistic? You said before that you've been working with KISD for 25 years. That to me seems to be the problem. "Grumble, grumble, you can't change it, grumble, grumble, just give up". Maybe the board needs some new members who aren't so embedded and will do what's best for the district as a whole, not what they are told.

Rich, your plan is not going to work. KHS will never leave that property, it needs to be upgraded on the land it is sitting on. And if you did follow your plan you still end up with 5 high schools and the future need for a 6th, but no land to put it on. Despite many of the Districts shortcomings Klein has planned ahead much better than you think.

And yes I still think the actions of your group specifically the people from Gleannloch are arrogant, and express an elitist attitude. I live in Gleannloch and I, and many of my neighbors are embarrassed by your groups approach. I have no interest in visiting your website or supporting your group in any way.

Like I said before I am not happy with this bond, but your group is making my rethink on how to vote.

I'm confused. You agree that this is a bad bond, but you would actually vote for it in a misguided attempt to spite some group of residents who are also opposed to it. That's seriously wrong. You're going to show the board support for a bad plan just so you can say "There."? Does that really make sense to you? I mean no one even knows who you are - are going to mail a copy of your "yes" vote or post a copy to this Web site so we can believe you did it?

Seriously re-evaluate your motives. And from what I've read, I don't think you actually know what the Klein for All group supports. Lots of assumptions and you know what they say about assumptions - they make you look foolish.

I just found out that PBK Architects will be designing Klein ISD's 5th High School.

Have they named the group that will work on the rebuild of KHS? I was trying to understand who provided those rebuild and new build estimates to the steering committee.

Look at this

KHS in 2002

KHS in 2006

Guys it's time to get rid of the T-buildings at Klein High.

Totally agree. It's time to find a better location for a new buidling. This is a bad site for a high school. Rebuilding individual buildings is not going to fix the problems. There are better solutions for the same cost.

What all of you are missing is that the Klein ISD Board of Trustees will vote for what is best for ALL OF OUR CHILDREN. I know what the Klein For All people really mean by "all" ... as in "all of the children North of 1960." Where was your outrage four years ago during the 04 Bond Election when people in Greenwood Forest were fighting to get better solutions in the South end of the district? Inevitably, somone is not going to get what they want -- guess, what -- It's your turn to NOT GET WHAT YOU WANT...that's what you call Divine Justice. Yes, I wish it wasn't necessary to rebuild Klein High... I wish we could all travel back in time and do a better job maintaining that facility .. but it is what it is.. right now and it really sounds like it's a lawsuit waiting to happen if you don't get the students out of there. But there I go again, talking about "children...." I know that's a lame idea when we're talking about a Bond issue .. because we're all consumed about getting ours.

Why can't they all get what they need? I mean I've looked at the data from Klein ISD and it looks like if they spend the money to build two new high schools you would fix all of problems. All of the KHS students could go to one of the new schools (don't use the old KHS any more) and there would be enough space for all of the kids the administration is projecting. It would be done by 2010 and only require one rezoning. It definately sounds like they didn't do enough back in 2004, I just don't understand why take on a long project like rebuilding instead of just using new facilities.

Let's see, spreading non factual information. Circulating inappropriate emails to the District, Board members, and residents. Setting up a website and implying that it fact when it is more opinion, putting ads in the paper with the web address encouraging people to vote no, sending the Superintendent an email about tat ad threatening him there is more to come if he does not put together a bond that this group wants. These people have no idea what they are looking at as far as the issues at KHS, or a bond for that matter. Are they engineers, architects, or construction managers? How about contacting a lawyer to talk about sueing the District!!!! Over what, not getting their way? Get a clue people!!!

This is "coalition" was started by a small group in Gleannloch that has an elitist attitude and could care less about anybody that lives outside their neighborhood until they want something from you, like your vote. They don't really care about the tax increase, or overcrowding, all they care about is that they want their new High School when it is done and don't want it after it is used by the KHS crowd. Oh and let's not forget that they want the right neighborhoods at that school, but I guess we will wait until the zoning issue comes up to see that. These are small minded people that want is best for them, and them alone, not the District as a whole. The Noveau Riche in Gleannloch are destroying any credibility for the neighborhood for any issues that may arise in the future.

I have issue with the bond as well and don't agree withthe KHS numbers, but this group is so cluless they are making me want to vote yes, and I am not alone inthat thinking. They have no idea how school politics work, construction, bonds, or really anything that is associated with education.

I've reviewed the Web site and they are pushing for the overcrowding issue to be dealt with first before rebuilding KHS. And the numbers are identical to those from the Klein ISD Web site. What, exactly, is nonfactual? I don't have kids at any high school. I'm just trying to gather information. I don't see any factual inaccuracies that you're talking about.

I guess I'm trying to understand where all of your dislike is coming from. I don't have insight into any threats against the Superintendent. Maybe you have an inside scoop at the district.

BTW - I just read that the group that supports the bond actually started the Klein Bond Political Action Committee. What's the advantage of forming such a group? I hate to see all of the fighting when we all want what's best for the kids of the community.

I understand voting no on the Bond it has some things in it that I take issue with as well. But I would not associate with the Klein for all group. They are a petty self appointed know it all group out of Gleannloch that is upset about the KHS rebuild. I disagree with the KHS rebuild too but the tactics this group is pulling is unprofessional and pathetic. Anyone who is in their email circle might as well forget any credibility with the KISD Admin or the KISD Board from now on. It is a shame since those of us who still disagree with the bond, but still live in the same neighborhood as them will have to live with the damage they are causing for the rest of the Gleannloch residents.

If you want accurate information abouthte Bond not one small groups opinion just go tothe KISD website.

What have they done that's unprofessional and pathetic?