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Who ever Sic'EmBears is posted on skyscraperpage.com on The Dallas-Forth developments quotes.  "Houston is an example of when architecture catches a venereal disease" on all of his blogs.  What a jealous, tasteless, stupid quote.  Especially from Dallas.  Frank Lloyd Wright did not say that.  Makes this person seem stupid.          

So you post it on here in a transparent attempt at muckraking?

I don't really understand this whole schtick you do, but give it a rest.

And now you've got some Dallasite deliberately trying to troll you guys by taunting you that it's not downtown, and you're taking the bait.

I don't think it's trolling if it's a clearly idiotic decision that directly impacts all of us up here.

For us, the vision for the HSR was like this:

DART to Union Station, Union Station to downtown Houston. For a lot of people, downtown or the adjacent area (Midtown) would be the final destination. If not, downtown Houston is the hub of your whole road/rail/bus network.

Now you've turned it into this:

DART to Union Station, Union Station to a dead mall's parking lot out by 610... which is NO ONE's final destination. From there maybe light rail will be built at some point... but let's be honest that won't happen for a while. Maybe you can take a bus, but come on no one's going to do that. So then you'll have to either rent a car, beg a friend for a ride, or call an Uber.

It's just removed so much of the utility...

I'm a Dallasite and I can't believe you guys are screwing this up. All this work that we're doing on our end to make the HSR practical and modern and then on your end we're gonna plop the passengers in some parking lot in the middle of nowhere.

So incredibly stupid and shortsighted...

Deep Ellum is gonna be a lot different in a few years after a few more projects. I just don't like the developments targeting only moneyed people. 

Rent is determined by supply and demand. The new development in Deep Ellum is only being done because market rents are already high - the developers have projected that market rent is high enough to make a profit. Additional supply coming online will LOWER rents.

Oh my god...

 

Reading this actually made me lol. 

This guy did hard drugs for sure. 

I know it's old but I just joined this forum and this thread was interesting enough to read old posts. 

The same people are still on here making the same insane predictions. Keep that in mind when reading this forum.

One nitpick...

Those photos are of the OLD Parkland Campus.

The NEW Parkland campus is the current Parkland campus - the one Kennedy was taken to and the one that just got a huge new main building.

Being so close to Love Field even getting insurance would cost a lot of money.   

Where do you come up with this stuff?

Ride the MATA streetcar from St. Paul to Cityplace/Uptown Station. Goes down McKinney Avenue, one of the streets in Dallas most densely packed with bars, restaurants, and shopping. Either take it back or ride DART back to St. Paul.

See what's playing at the Bomb Factory in Deep Ellum. Fantastic new venue with a great location.

Check out North Oak Cliff. Bishop Arts in particular.

Look in the Dallas Observer (our Houston Press) for events.

You Houstonians love drawing up your arbitrary distinctions and then using that to validate yourselves. Our Galleria is bigger than yours (ignoring Northpark), our medical district is bigger than yours (Dallas built hospitals more spread out), but then when other cities play the same game you find ways to discount it (OH YEAH WELL NO ONE RIDES DART SO IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG IT IS).

Especially with Klyde Warren Park, any logical examination of downtown would include Uptown as well. So our central urban core is bigger than TMC. There. We all win.

Virgin Hotel announced for the Dallas Design District:

http://candysdirt.com/2015/06/24/crosland-group-plans-two-additional-major-virginal-developments-design-district/

Phase I of Dallas' modern streetcar system (vs. the MATA heritage streetcar in Uptown) opens tomorrow.

https://www.dart.org/riding/dallasstreetcar.asp

All this hassle, all this expense, Dallas going through all the trouble of building a downtown station linked to their rail system... and on the Houston end it would dump the pax off in some parking lot in the middle of nowhere.

*facepalm*

So they appear to have learned nothing from the design mistakes made on the Red Line...

There's no such thing as a 777-300LR. You mean 777-300ER.

On what base in fact do you have this on? I've been on plenty of HSR and their are at least a couple of stops in between. Yes you don't want HSR going to small towns, but to cities yes. That's why HSR is more commonly called Intercity Rail. Plus the more access to passengers means more money and at the end of the day thats whats going to matter most. Finally whenever I was on HSR that reached this intermediate stops they were only there for at most 5mins. So that 90min trip is now 95mins. Big deal. The overall trip will be faster than if you flew.

It'll take longer than five minutes.

Business travelers are going to be this route's meat and potatoes - particularly those business passengers flying between Hobby and Love right now. For every one passenger you pick up in Huntsville you're going to lose five DAL-HOU passengers.

Why are we even bothering to make the thing high speed if we're going to cripple it with stops in podunk towns? Let's say someone DOES want to take the train to one of those towns. How are they going to get around once they get there? There's no transit. Rent a car? Why wouldn't they just drive from Houston or Dallas then? It doesn't make any sense.

The only way the HSR is going to work is if there are zero stops. Stops are a dealbreaker. Downtown Dallas to Downtown Houston, no stops. Anything else is not going to be able to effectively compete with Southwest.

If we start pandering to politicians by making the train stop in the middle of nowhere than this whole thing is dead on arrival.

I did look at the DMN article and the included map.  It's a DART map, showing what DART hopes to happen.  I can find no evidence anywhere that Texas Central has named a site adjacent to Union Station as one of their possibilities.  

You posted the evidence. See that northernmost "Dallas Potential Station Locations" circle? See the portion of that circle that lies within downtown?

That's adjacent to Union Station.

That's a DART concept. FWIW, DART is not building the HSR nor is DART deciding where to place the station.  Texas Central's possible station locations only get as close as just southwest of downtown Dallas (i.e. south of I-30).

Look at the Dallas Morning News article. Texas Central has named a site adjacent to Union Station, just north of I-30, as one of three possibilities.

There's even a map.

The second DART LRT alignment and expansion of downtown streetcar services are DART plans, but the downtown HSR station is all Texas Central.

But when houston gets something like this, beleive me people its going to blow away dallas so call victory plaza. We might call ours ENGERY PLAZA, since we're the engery capitol of the world.

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So, if when Dallas gets something like this, they're imitating NYC, does that mean that when Houston gets something like this they'll be imitating Dallas?