MidtownCoog Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 And if we'd like to start another debate, 1/2 that trash is from Buffalo Bayou.And if not exactly in Galveston, then in the Bay.Think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 The very idea of grooming rocks just cracks me up. Like sifting through sand? (pun) Thens there nothing like stepping on a syringe while basking in the sun I say Bottom line is Galvez is all we have nearby so we have to just like it and just enjoy what we have. Could be worse what if we were in the midwest where they lust for any beach. Let's just imagine we have a beach like the ones in those neat Corona commercials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) And if we'd like to start another debate, 1/2 that trash is from Buffalo Bayou.And if not exactly in Galveston, then in the Bay.Think about it.But it is in Galveston, that pic of all the trash is off the seawall. Throw some convicts out there to clean it up at lowtide. As far as the Flagship, I see no Surfers in that pic, I agree that they surf that area also, but are you saying that Surfers are lesser beings and don't deserve a clean beach. What of the tourists walking on the seawall looking into the Gulf, you think they don't deserve to look at a nice beach even if they can't swim in the water there ?I can see it now, "Come on Margaret, let's go down to Galveston and watch the seaweed roll back and forth in the surf like oldtimes !" Edited May 10, 2007 by TJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I am saying that you took a picture of the most crappy part of the Seawall.Not a groomed beach which you can find at Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I am saying that you took a picture of the most crappy part of the Seawall.Not a groomed beach which you can find at Stewart.Stewart and East beach are probably the only two that actually get any attention at all, but aren't those privately owned ? Try going out 18 mile rd. where Jamaica beach and the other public beaches are, they look like Hell. I don't know, maybe it is just me, because I was spoiled for awhile because I played many a weekend on the Mississippi Coast beaches and Key West beach in my 20's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Stewart and East beach are probably the only two that actually get any attention at all, but aren't those privately owned ? Try going out 18 mile rd. where Jamaica beach and the other public beaches are, they look like Hell. I don't know, maybe it is just me, because I was spoiled for awhile because I played many a weekend on the Mississippi Coast beaches and Key West beach in my 20's Oh, you mean Fort Zachary Taylor Beach in Key west? You forgot to mention that swim shoes are required, since the beach and ocean floor are covered with coral shells. There ARE a couple of spots, like Smathers Beach, a few hundred yards long, that have imported sand, so that one can walk barefoot, but the majority of Key West is left natural. This means seaweed, as seen above, and coral. It is also generally not white sand. Most people I've talked to are OK with that. But, Galveston gets a bad rap. People have it set in their minds what a beach SHOULD look like, and trash everything that does not match the beaches on the TV commercials. Should Hawaii bring in white sand to cover its black sand beaches? The trash is a problem, and it is a big reason why I have volunteered a couple of times on cleanup day over the years. But, the sand is what it is. Blame Texas for having clay in its soil, not Galveston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) Yes, Smather's Beach, and you conveniently forgot to add a picture of it. This is what a beach should look like. my father lived on Big Coppit Key, he ran the Casino/Party boat that left out of Key West. I would Spring Break down there, and do the Duvalle crawl everynight. Fort Zachary is NOT a fun and sun beach it is for Divers and Snorkelers. Edited May 10, 2007 by TJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineda Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) Clean BeachesRockport beach was named as Texas' only "Blue Wave" beach.a report on seaweed in Corpus Edited May 10, 2007 by pineda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Sure wish I were here now! By the way Everyone: AIA Houston is having the annual Build a Sandcastle Event. Below is the Advertisement: Sandcastle : Take off your boots and put on your bathing suit! There will be 27 sponsors and 81 teams. Call the office to participate - 713-520-0155. See you on East Beach in Galveston, Jun 2 from dawn to dusk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 (edited) Mikeybob2...Those pics were hillarious!!! . When talking about vistiors...most of those are Houstonians who can't afford to drive anywhere else. As someone who lives here, I wouldn't go to Galveston (for pleasure) to save my life. We do drive the 628 miles to Destin, FL were you can lay in sand instead of laying on sand that's hard as concrete. Brown is Galveston's como. I believe many other people would drive away as well if gas wasn't so expensive. There's not very many beaches that have one of the nations largest cities 47 miles up the road. Also some vegitation would be nice, you know, palm trees and such. Refer to the pics of Key West above. Rivers drain in other parts of the country...not just the Texas Coast. There is no excuse, besides lazyness, why the beaches look the way they do. If they'd clean them up and clean that town up, people would be tempted to go there and development would also boom. The more development, the more people that come. Raise the standards! The Mississippi coast (pre Katrina) had brown water as well, but the beaches were nice and the town of Biloxi was clean and had lots of stuff to do! I'd go back. I'd go there before I would ANY Texas beach...that includes South Padre. Edited June 4, 2007 by wxman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 When talking about vistiors...most of those are Houstonians who can't afford to drive anywhere else.Never heard of a day trip? I think a lot of us actually own property down there. I do. I would not drive to Florida if it were only 6 miles away and gas was free. If I had to resort to driving to a beach vacation, Padre Island would win every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Oh yes because South Padre Island is so beautiful...ok. Little do you know the Florida beaches for the most part are natural. This is from Wikipedia...Destin's White Beaches--Destin is famous for its white sand beaches. The sand is some of the whitest in the world. The sand actually comes from the Appalachian mountains. Residue flows down the Apalachicola River and is deposited into the Gulf of Mexico. Because of the currents the sand drifts west and settles from east of Panama City to the Alabama coast.Destin, FL-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Destinflorida.jpgGalveston, TX-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USA_Gal...on_beach_TX.jpgOk buddy, you need your eyes checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I've been to Destin. It's a crap drive through a crap part of the country. 12 hours! And really, how often does anyone have time for a 12 hour road trip?And while the beaches may be pretty, their special brand of Redneck makes the bubbas from Alabama and Mississippi look civilized.I'll levave Florida and the Redneck Riveria for you to enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwood Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Mikeybob2...Those pics were hillarious!!! . When talking about vistiors...most of those are Houstonians who can't afford to drive anywhere else. As someone who lives here, I wouldn't go to Galveston (for pleasure) to save my life. We do drive the 628 miles to Destin, FL were you can lay in sand instead of laying on sand that's hard as concrete. Brown is Galveston's como. I believe many other people would drive away as well if gas wasn't so expensive. There's not very many beaches that have one of the nations largest cities 47 miles up the road. Also some vegitation would be nice, you know, palm trees and such. Refer to the pics of Key West above.Rivers drain in other parts of the country...not just the Texas Coast. There is no excuse, besides lazyness, why the beaches look the way they do. If they'd clean them up and clean that town up, people would be tempted to go there and development would also boom. The more development, the more people that come. Raise the standards! The Mississippi coast (pre Katrina) had brown water as well, but the beaches were nice and the town of Biloxi was clean and had lots of stuff to do! I'd go back. I'd go there before I would ANY Texas beach...that includes South Padre. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Ok...what is so beautiful about Galveston?? It's industry, graveyards, hobo's, government housing, brown beaches next to brown waters that resemble my toilet bowl after a dinner at Panchos...maybe it's new Causeway and a highrise hotel? If I want natural, I can stay at home in The Woodlands and look at natural all day. Nothing is natural anymore...not even the boobs girls have that I go and look at. If Galveston and Destin were 6 miles apart, you'd drive to Galveston?????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 A few years back, I drove back home to North Carolina, checking out the Appalachians and the Outer Banks. Those who know North Carolina, know that they are obsessive about not encroaching on nature. There is NO construction in the sand dunes, and a height restriction on buildings...nothing over 4 stories.On the way home, we drove through Myrtle Beach...great, if you like titty bars and golf courses...though the beach itself is still pretty nice. We spent a couple of nights in Destin. Despised it! Highrises built right in the middle of the sand dunes, and that campy, master planned development look and feel that only Southerners can appreciate. Even my girlfriend at the time, who had gushed over getting to see Destin, hated it. Don't get me wrong. The sand was white, the water clear, and if your idea of communing with nature is riding your golf cart across a fairway, Destin is for you. But, if you believe a beach should include marshes, wetlands, sawgrass and those other things that nature does, forget it. St. Augustine grass butting up against the beach is not for me.And, yes, the PEOPLE there are priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Rivers drain in other parts of the country...not just the Texas Coast. There is no excuse, besides lazyness, why the beaches look the way they do.There is an excuse. It's called the Beaumont Formation. Please do your research before making ridiculous statements--or I will ridicule them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 First of all, some of these posts are made in almost absolute ignorance. I'm in Galveston at least twice a month, and it is not a trash bin like some of you here claim, in fact if your in the proper areas it's very clean. Imo it shows that most of these negative statements are not made from constant experience, but from following a stereotype.Give me the feel and atmosphere of old Galveston anyday. Give me the great fishing at the 61st street pier, and give me people that don't act like absolute hillbillies.By the way, for you that have no clue, Galveston does actually get blue with the winds prevail Southeast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I far prefer the cool breezes of the coast and the organic feel of Galveston rather than the homogenous nature of somewhere like The Woodlands. Also, I used to own a home in Destin---it really has one of the most beautiful beaches in the world. However, what do you do when you don't go to the beach? The fishing is great, but then what? If you're in to golf, then they have plenty to offer there as well. However, Galveston has MUCH more to offer than a typical beach town and if you can't appreciate the historical background or the cultural activities that are offered here, then you obviously would prefer a squeaky clean, sterile environment. This place is making remarkable progress - realize that until 3-4 years ago, over 50% of the property here was not on the tax rolls because it was owned by universities or non-profits. So, it's difficult to catch up when you have had NO MONEY or have to rely on the few private property owners to provide services for the rest of the non-taxpaying property owners. Give it time - we're lucky to have a place like the island so close by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Galveston will ALWAYS be dirty, it gets the direct current from the Mississippi river. Clean up the Mississippi, and Galveston will get cleaned up too.Actually, the Gulf Stream flows north and northeast along the Texas coast and follows it east across the mouth of Mississippi to the eastern gulf, and then out through the Florida strait into the Atlantic. There it turns north to Cape Hatteras NC and and then slowly veers out into the north Atlantic. We can thank the Gulf Stream for keeping the effluent of the Mississippi away from the Texas coast. Someone else here has pointed out that our waters are so dirty looking because the water is so shallow and the bottom is always getting churned up by the currents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Actually, the Gulf Stream flows north and northeast along the Texas coast and follows it east across the mouth of Mississippi to the eastern gulf, and then out through the Florida strait into the Atlantic. There it turns north to Cape Hatteras NC and and then slowly veers out into the north Atlantic. We can thank the Gulf Stream for keeping the effluent of the Mississippi away from the Texas coast. Someone else here has pointed out that our waters are so dirty looking because the water is so shallow and the bottom is always getting churned up by the currents.Every 6 to 11 months, the Loop Current that Filio described breaks off into a clockwise rotating eddy, which drifts toward the Texas coast. Apparently, the water in these eddies is very warm, and can power up a hurricane rapidly. Both Katrina and Rita passed over one of these eddies in 2005.Here is an article about the Gulf of Mexico Loop Current and its occasional eddies from Weather Underground. Pretty cool stuff. After reading it, you will be able to slap down all of your friends that blame Galveston's brown water on the Gulf Stream and the Mississippi River.http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMaste...p;tstamp=200605 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Niche, ridicule all you want...the truth is the truth. Galveston is a crap hole. What Galveston needs is another good hurricane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Niche, ridicule all you want...the truth is the truth. Galveston is a crap hole. What Galveston needs is another good hurricane. Uh...ok...and what do you expect that that will that accomplish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Give me fast food joints and strip centers over historic houses any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 The point I'm trying to make is that Galveston ain't the prettiest beach on the gulf coast...BY FAR!! Nobody on here can have a difference of opinion unless you and your cult join together to insult somebody. If you think that Beaumont is responsible for the Texas...not just Galveston, waters looking like mud, then maybe your the one that needs to do research. So I like Destin. So what! Just because I found the only group of people in Houston who feels Galveston is natural "beauty" does not mean everybody has to agree with you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 The point I'm trying to make is that Galveston ain't the prettiest beach on the gulf coast...BY FAR!! Nobody on here can have a difference of opinion unless you and your cult join together to insult somebody. If you think that Beaumont is responsible for the Texas...not just Galveston, waters looking like mud, then maybe your the one that needs to do research. So I like Destin. So what! Just because I found the only group of people in Houston who feels Galveston is natural "beauty" does not mean everybody has to agree with you!!!LOL Why else does Galveston's water look like mud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 hey you got me... As I've stated before...you can't do anything about the water, but the beaches can be kept up and the town could use a good cleaning. I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy starring at Oil Rigs in the gulf or looking at smoke stacks from petro plants in Texas City while I'm "vacationing." I think the highrise hotels are a great start for Galveston. Also as mentioned in my previous post, I'll give Galveston another couple of years...God knows they've come a ways in changing the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy starring at Oil Rigs in the gulf or looking at smoke stacks from petro plants in Texas City while I'm "vacationing."I do. It adds to the vitality and creates visual excitement. In fact, my parents just put in a lease application for a third floor loft with a view of the Galveston Ship Channel on Saturday (no kidding!). I can't wait to 'house-sit' the first time they go on vacation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I do. It adds to the vitality and creates visual excitement. In fact, my parents just put in a lease application for a third floor loft with a view of the Galveston Ship Channel on Saturday (no kidding!). I can't wait to 'house-sit' the first time they go on vacation!I love Galveston's ship channel. There have been times when my buddies and I will sit off the road by East beach, and watch those mammoth ships go by. It's really very cool. In fact last week there was a cruise ship of immense proportions coming into dock, and it had to have been three football fields long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 A number of posts have been removed for inappropriate language and flaming. If you can't follow the rules on HAIF then go elsewhere please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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