houstonmacbro Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Okay, I am not sure of the validity of this, but this seems like one more liberty that is being taken from all of us for the sake of 'safety' ...Not sure I like the thought of people rifling through my email records or IMs or any of my Internet activities (including presumably posts on message boards like this).Why does it seem all the whacko ideas like this come from Texas?******A bill introduced last week by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) is beginning to raise eyebrows.[it] would require ISPs to record all users' surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely.The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records. (emphasis mine)This is a terrifying development and it must be stopped before it gains any significant momentum. Background, Action items and contact information below the fold.Under the guise of reducing child pornography, the SAFETY (Stopping Adults Facilitating the Exploitation of Today's Youth Act) Act is currently the gravest threat to digital privacy rights on the Internet. Given the increasing tendency of people, especially young people, to use the Internet as a primary means of communications, this measure would effect nearly all Americans in ways we are only beginning to understand. Also, given the fact that the Act requires all Internet Service Providers to record the web surfing activity of all Internet users, this amounts to the warrantless wiretapping of the entire Internet.Does this worry you? Good. It should. If this continues, it is an OUTRAGEOUS violation of our privacy and civil liberties. Read the full article and start contacting people immediately. Contact list at the bottom of the article.http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/12/c...-mails-ims-etc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Does this worry you? Good. It should. If this continues, it is an OUTRAGEOUS violation of our privacy and civil liberties. Read the full article and start contacting people immediately. Contact list at the bottom of the article.At least in the govt, this has already been done for yrs. not that the all the info is recorded but they do have people who just look at the data because a friend of mine does it. Many don't allow you access software for IM'ing either. i think restrictions will just get tighter in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 the link doesn't work for me, but this is probably H.R.836 (inroduced 02.06.07)"To amend title 18, United States Code, to better assure cyber-security, and for other purposes"here is the full test of the bill:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.836:if that's not it, it is similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Why does this remind me of this season's "24"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Why does this remind me of this season's "24"?An omen for Obama perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marty Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 This is just a reminder that a bunch of Socialist runs this county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 This is just a reminder that a bunch of Socialist runs this county.More like fascists, including Hillary and Bush or whoever, they're all trying to move the new world order into place as quickly as possible, and we're the fools.If no one gets upset about detaining people without hearings or access to attorneys, just on someone's suspicion, then I don't expect the sheeple to protest this much, if it is actually true, and even if they do, they'll just scrap it and wait for another chance to get it passed, and eventually they will.I got this in an email today.About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in > 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of > Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some > 2,000 years prior: > > "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a > permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until > the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts > from the public treasury. >From that moment on, the majority always votes > for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, > with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose > fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship." > > The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of > history, has been about 200 years. > During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the > following sequence: > > 1. From bondage to spiritual faith; > 2. From spiritual faith to great courage; > 3. From courage to liberty; > 4. From liberty to abundance; > 5. From abundance to complacency; > 6. From complacency to apathy; > 7. >From apathy to dependence; > 8. From dependence back into bondage Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, > Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 > Presidential election: > > Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million; Bush: 143 million; > > Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000. > > States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29 > > Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2; Bush: 2.1 > Professor Olson adds: > > "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned > by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. > Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in > government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..." > > Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency > and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some > 40 percent of the nation's p opulation already having reached the > "governmental dependency" phase. > > Pass this a long to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, > knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom. > PS If the Senate grants Amnesty and citizenship to 20 million criminal > invaders called illegals and they vote, then goodbye USA - in less than 5 > years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston1stWordOnTheMoon Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Only thing new with this is the wording. Everything is already in place and in operation and has been for some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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