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So the renderings you posted are updated?

 

the street names seem to be new, too.

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12 hours ago, lockmat said:

So the renderings you posted are updated?

 

the street names seem to be new, too.

 

5 minutes ago, jgriff said:

Looks the same to me. Guess I’m not looking close enough. What’s different?



Is it updated? It looks the same here, too. Alamo Drafthouse is in the brochure for one.

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13 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

Updated brochure..still list the 40 story tower as starting soon. 

 

 http://regentsquarehouston.com/wp-content/uploads/GID_RegentSq_Bro_US_A4.pdf

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dK13pZ7.jpgIt references Houston’s MSA as only being 5.95 Million, which was accurate around 2010. However, I saw it made a reference to some 2015 figures as well.  I suspect the update was just sloppily done (kind of like this post, which got trapped in Urby’s post and where I couldn’t figure out how to get it out), which I do not take as a good sign.

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Ok, this is not technically a regent square update but there is some activity on an adjacent site. A large portion, if not all of the land used by The Lighthouse and/or The Center just West of the Regent Square site was put up for sale a few months ago. I’ve heard no news about the sale but I did see a soil sampling crew drilling near the corner of West Dallas and Tirell Street yesterday. 

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As of a couple of days ago workers have been putting a fresh coat of paint on the Allen House units facing Rochow.  My understanding was that this was supposed to be the next phase (high rise resi) being developed.  It seems like there is going to be additional delay with Regent Square unless they are planning to start building on the vacant land first (which would be mostly retail, I believe).  Keep the income producing properties intact as long as possible and start building out the retail...

 

I see cars parked at their office on Dunlavy fairly regularly so it would seem something is going on (likely wishful thinking!)...

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If this did ever happen, coupled with the Buffalo Heights development, it could really transform the Waugh/Allen/Memorial corridor.  Doubtful this comes to fruition, so I'm happy HEB and Buffalo Heights is happening. 

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Long given up on this project. Even if major parts of it ever manage to come to fruition it will never be as cohesive as it was originally envisioned to be.

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7 hours ago, intencity77 said:

Long given up on this project. Even if major parts of it ever manage to come to fruition it will never be as cohesive as it was originally visioned to be.

I agree, unfortunately.

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Yeah at this point I give up on this. Not too concerned though. This is prime real estate that will developed soon enough. I mean we still have the development on Gillette and Buffalo Heights to look forward to.

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Sorry if I brought anyone false hope with a new post, but I saw this and thought I'd share. My friend works for this company and they've been working on this site for a while, so it's nice to see an active verb on their website used to describe RS.

 

https://www.cobbfendley.com/regent-square/

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http://realtynewsreport.com/2018/05/30/40-years-of-designing-urban-houston-qa-with-scott-ziegler-of-ziegler-cooper-architects/

 

In closer in Houston, the second phase of the Sovereign, off Allen Parkway, is getting under way. It’s the second part of Regent Square, a highly-anticipated mixed-use project. Boston-based General Investment & Development Cos. is the developer. The planned walkable community is near Buffalo Bayou along Dunlavy and West Dallas streets on land formerly occupied by the 1960s­era Allen House Apartments, which were almost all demolished in 2007 to make way for Regent Square. GID has already progressed through the design portion. Regent Square will ultimately include roughly 400,000 square feet of shops and restaurants, 240,000 square feet of office space, 950 multifamily units and 4,200 parking spaces.

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I feel like this is really lacking detail. Is this just a single building? Edit: What all does phrase 2 entail?

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It's becoming increasingly frustrating with every new press release that says "starting soon" or "ramping up" with this project. I'll I can ask is when exactly?

 

This land is just screaming to be filled in with some kind of project, but year after year it just sits there with little or no activity. I want to have hope that this someday comes to fruition, but it just seems like it will be later rather than sooner. 

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Looks a taller tower to me, no doubt resi. Good news

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12 hours ago, lockmat said:

Looks a taller tower to me, no doubt resi. Good news

 

The Sovereign is a tower that already exists. Are you seeing something else?

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24 minutes ago, Triton said:

 

The Sovereign is a tower that already exists. Are you seeing something else?

 

Sorry, should have clarified. Based on looking at the site plan, it looks like phase two is a taller tower than the existing phase I tower. At least that's what it looks like to me.

 

Actually, page 19 shows it to be a taller tower as well, good news! And according to page 25, could they be connecting the two Sovereign towers???

http://regentsquarehouston.com/wp-content/uploads/GID_RegentSq_Bro_US_A4.pdf

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I guess the silver lining is that they're making progress lol

From what I can expect, it seems as though they're knocking out the big stuff first before moving to the more retail focused developments. 

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I drive by their office almost every day (on Dunlavy) and there have been cars in the parking lot (between 1 and 4) for the last few months. So it would seem something is going on...

 

also the Allen House apts got paint and a cleanup earlier this year. They also have a banner out front saying “new interiors”. 

 

It it would seem that they may be keeping the income producing Allen House units and ready to start building out the vacant land...

 

just my $.02

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3 hours ago, lockmat said:

 

Sorry, should have clarified. Based on looking at the site plan, it looks like phase two is a taller tower than the existing phase I tower. At least that's what it looks like to me.

 

Actually, page 19 shows it to be a taller tower as well, good news! And according to page 25, could they be connecting the two Sovereign towers???

http://regentsquarehouston.com/wp-content/uploads/GID_RegentSq_Bro_US_A4.pdf

I’m a little confused by all the Phase I/Phase II talk.  I’m assuming Phase I is The Sovereign and Phase II is everything else, yes?  If so, I see three new high rise residential towers coming.  One at Tirrell and W Dallas, one directly south of The Sovereign and one just southwest of The Sovereign.  In addition, there will be a high rise hotel at Dunlavy and Allen Pkwy a mid rise office tower at Tirrell and Allen Pkwy, and low rise residential and entertainment over the rest of the site.  Based on the renderings, the development could be truly spectacular, — a slam dunk — especially being nestled next to the new Buffalo Bayou Park.  It just needs to get done........

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5 minutes ago, MarathonMan said:

I’m a little confused by all the Phase I/Phase II talk.  I’m assuming Phase I is The Sovereign and Phase II is everything else, yes?  If so, I see three new high rise residential towers coming.  One at Tirrell and W Dallas, one directly south of The Sovereign and one just southwest of The Sovereign.  In addition, there will be a high rise hotel at Dunlavy and Allen Pkwy a mid rise office tower at Tirrell and Allen Pkwy, and low rise residential and entertainment over the rest of the site.  Based on the renderings, the development could be truly spectacular, — a slam dunk — especially being nestled next to the new Buffalo Bayou Park.  It just needs to get done........

What I was told (a long time ago), was that Phase I was The Sovereign and Phase II was the tower next to the Sovereign.

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1 minute ago, MarathonMan said:

I’m a little confused by all the Phase I/Phase II talk.  I’m assuming Phase I is The Sovereign and Phase II is everything else, yes?  If so, I see three new high rise residential towers coming.  One at Tirrell and W Dallas, one directly south of The Sovereign and one just southwest of The Sovereign.  In addition, there will be a high rise hotel at Dunlavy and Allen Pkwy a mid rise office tower at Tirrell and Allen Pkwy, and low rise residential and entertainment over the rest of the site.  Based on the renderings, the development could be truly spectacular, — a slam dunk — especially being nestled next to the new Buffalo Bayou Park.  It just needs to get done........

Phase II is Phase II of the portion of the project called the Sovereign.  Ziegler has a map of its version of the master plan for the Regent Square project that features the tower we know as "The Sovereign" with a label of "Phase I" next to it.  A label of "Phase II" is next to a structure just to the south of it.  The image of such is to the right of the map below:

 

Regent-Square-Rendered-Site-Plan-UPDATE-940x626.jpg

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3 hours ago, houstontexasjack said:

Phase II is Phase II of the portion of the project called the Sovereign.  Ziegler has a map of its version of the master plan for the Regent Square project that features the tower we know as "The Sovereign" with a label of "Phase I" next to it.  A label of "Phase II" is next to a structure just to the south of it.  The image of such is to the right of the map below:

 

Regent-Square-Rendered-Site-Plan-UPDATE-940x626.jpg

Truly, this will take a century to complete.

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Off the topic, but I don't see a thread anywhere. How tall of a building do you think Hines will do on the corner of D'Amico and Waugh across form Whole Foods.  We all know Hines doesn't mess around.

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1 hour ago, Dakota79 said:

Off the topic, but I don't see a thread anywhere. How tall of a building do you think Hines will do on the corner of D'Amico and Waugh across form Whole Foods.  We all know Hines doesn't mess around.

I’d say around 30 floors.  The Southmore is around 27.  Aris Market Square is 32.  I think La Colombe d’Or will be 33 or so.  That seems to be their sweet spot in Houston.

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I drive by the Regent Square sales office on Dunlavy coming home from work and there continues to be cars in the parking lot (usually 2-3).  There must be some reason these people are showing up for work but there has literally been no perceivable progress at the Regent Square site.

 

There HAS been quite a bit of maintenance going on at the Allen House apartments (owned by developer and supposed to be torn down as part of Regent Square plan).  So it looks to me like that they are retrenching on the Allen House (continue the covered land play).  Maybe Allen House will be the last part to be redeveloped (assuming any additional development ever happens).

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14 hours ago, gregpet said:

I drive by the Regent Square sales office on Dunlavy coming home from work and there continues to be cars in the parking lot (usually 2-3).  There must be some reason these people are showing up for work but there has literally been no perceivable progress at the Regent Square site.

 

There HAS been quite a bit of maintenance going on at the Allen House apartments (owned by developer and supposed to be torn down as part of Regent Square plan).  So it looks to me like that they are retrenching on the Allen House (continue the covered land play).  Maybe Allen House will be the last part to be redeveloped (assuming any additional development ever happens).

 

I am pretty sure Allen House can't be touched. Low income housing and historical.

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3 minutes ago, thatguysly said:

 

I am pretty sure Allen House can't be touched. Low income housing and historical.

 

I think you're confusing Allen House with Allen Parkway Village.

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1 hour ago, Clifton said:

http://realtynewsreport.com/2018/10/16/hanover-acquires-buffalo-bayou-tract-for-30-6-million-for-high-rise/

 

Interesting that Hanover purchased this and not the regent square developers....

Not really. Regent Square developers have enough on their plate. Maybe if Regent Square was fully built already, I could see them buying this land. In the meantime, they need to work on the vacant land they have sitting there.

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From what I am hearing, Hanover is planning a project that is close to the scale of Regent Square.  We shall see, but certainly adds pressure to GID.

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1 hour ago, CREguy13 said:

From what I am hearing, Hanover is planning a project that is close to the scale of Regent Square.  We shall see, but certainly adds pressure to GID.

 

If GID doesn't fill the void, someone will. Good for Hanover.

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2 hours ago, CREguy13 said:

From what I am hearing, Hanover is planning a project that is close to the scale of Regent Square.  We shall see, but certainly adds pressure to GID.

 

Wouldnt they have to buy more land? This site isn’t near as big as Regent Square. Some of the adjacent land is for sale though.

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Hanover bought one plot large enough for one of their towers. 

Regent Square is a much larger tract of land.

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But presumably if Hanover wanted to expand, it could buy some or all of the Regent Square land.  I think it's safe to assume that Regent Square as originally envisioned is never going to happen.  

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It sure looks that way. If Hanover could buy out Regent Squares holding's or even some of them they could develop a major mixed use development. 

I have a friend who was very involved with this project at one time and he became very frustrated with the developers on and off again approach.

If nothing else they definitely put together an interesting tract of land in a high profile location situated off Buffalo Bayou between River Oaks and Downtown.

It will be interesting to see what becomes of this parcel.

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Hines bought a piece off Waugh too across from Wholefoods, very near this area. All the movers and shakers moving in. Maybe to put the pressure on GID or steal their thunder. Maybe both. I would say these acquisitions and proposed projects for these parcels will bring the pressure on GID. 

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6 minutes ago, Clifton said:

Hines bought a piece off Waugh too across from Wholefoods, very near this area. All the movers and shakers moving in. Maybe to put the pressure on GID or steal their thunder. Maybe both. I would say these acquisitions and proposed projects for these parcels will bring the pressure on GID. 

 

It will be interesting to see over time how this area evolves as compared with Midtown. Midtown offers the advantage of a street grid enabling walkability and urbanity, as well as mass transit and proximity to downtown and cultural institutions. This area offers the bayou park, proximity to high end retail, and perceived lack of crime/insulation from "people who don't look like you." One can hope that Regents Square will come along and tie the area together into something with a focus, a sense of place, instead of a forbidding chaos of unwalkable blocks.

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Your right. Allen Parkway could become something akin to Lake Shore Drive in Chicago with a line of skyscrapers fronting Buffalo Bayou all the way to Shepherd.

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