Jax Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I just read the following about the CRC.The building, opening early 2009, will include ground-level retail, dining, conference spaces and a landscaped public plaza. The second level will have classrooms, space with scientific equipment to be shared by the center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Owl Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 As a Rice alumnus, I can safely say that I speak for a large number of us who think that this building looks like complete trash. Rice has a fairly uniform Mediterranean style about its buildings, and not only does this new building not match it, but it is painful to even look at. The building's only redeeming virtue is that it is not physically located in the main part of Rice's campus, but instead across University blvd and away from what is really considered to be "Rice". I have emailed the project manager on this thing voicing my (and many others') displeasure about the look of this, and she didn't bother to reply. This building is an example of architectural group-think at its finest. I'm really pissed about the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Owl Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 by the way, the joke amongst Rice folks is that for their expansion plans for the building, they will add another cylindrical structure, symmetrical with the existing one. Should be a great aerial shot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talltexan83 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I do not have as strong feelings against the style of the building, but I agree that the design elements will only serve to detach themselves from the rest of campus..........right across the street. I hate to think of it is a Med Center vs. Rice issue (both are instrumental to the continued success of the city), but the Med Center design influences difinitley won out here. Future Rice undergrads/grad students will likely consider classes in this building as "going to the Med Center" rather than "on campus." From the renderings, it looks like some green space may open up next to the track stadium. That would be a welcome change from the current chain fence on that corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyEvilTwin Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I just noticed this article on the Collaborative Research Center in the Summer edition of the Sallyport (Rice Alumni magazine).It has a much clearer rendering of the building (the print copy is even better than the online one). When I saw the first renderings posted above, I was completely unimpressed -- but this one actually makes me feel quite a bit better than the originals. Note the screen in front of the glass-walled side -- not being an architect, I have no idea what to call this, but I assume it has something to do with LEED certification. The screen is completely missing in the original renderings. Also, it's clear from this rendering that what appeared to be 2 more floors on top of the original building is actually just a facade of fake windows (I assume that's to dress up the air conditioners and/or other utilities on top?). I still wish it would have been more in line with other architecture around Rice's campus, but I like it a little better than before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 One thing I hope they do is build a better connection to campus. Maybe there will be a new path around the track stadium. As it is, you have to walk on Main to get there. While that isn't a big deal, it kind of makes it feel separated from campus. It would be really great if you could walk directly from campus to the new building.Interesting that it's being designed so they can add floors later. That seems to be the trend in the medical center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovingSoon Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 (edited) One thing I hope they do is build a better connection to campus. Maybe there will be a new path around the track stadium. As it is, you have to walk on Main to get there. While that isn't a big deal, it kind of makes it feel separated from campus. It would be really great if you could walk directly from campus to the new building.Interesting that it's being designed so they can add floors later. That seems to be the trend in the medical center.There is a new Rice Master-plan that is suppose to turn campus main axis to be more in-line with Main st. The track field will be gone, there would be an alley leading to that building etc. But that's probably ain't gonna happen for another few years.linkArchitecturally-wise it is a compromise between Rice and TMC style, compromise between need of high-teck labs and the the consistent outside looks. Overall I feel it is not too bad. The inside plans are very cool.I don't think there is any plans to add floors later but there is a plan to add another "rectangular tower" to the round hub. However, this is going to be a commercial development (they are looking for investors) which will then lease this space to biotech/med-tech companies Edited September 17, 2007 by MovingSoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 From the article posted above:The baseline plan also includes two stories of shell space to allow easy and rapid expansion as the project grows, along with the potential to build a second research tower atop the base platform that could add up to another 150,000 gross square feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 (edited) In fact, it is not only not a flaw in the rendering, it is considered quite a dignified artistic choice for a modern architect to make. If a boring box has confusing windows, it is NOT to be confused with a shoebox. On one hand, shoebox towers are so discredited in the '00s that architects are falling all over themselves to be the authors of blobs and twisted prisms, yet when the building linked below opened in 2003 and was met with horror in citizen opinion, some architects went on to call the people conservative and phobic for disliking it:http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=79175784&size=o Architecture is disciplinarily obsessed with forward progress. Perhaps this is the form that the urge to be a great author most readily takes when applied to built environments; maybe it is primarily the thing which they consider integrity, based on the idea that past solutions are not suited to our world today; or maybe playing with exciting new structural and technological possibilities is the most inexhaustible trick up architects' sleeve in a generation where architects are getting unprecedented public attention and acclaimed commissions which lend them freer rein or discretion than was common in the long years of post-Urban Renewal backlash, but don't actually have very much to offer up as a justification for why their particular ideas are helping the world in a compelling or conscientious way. Regarding the last, I have been expecting the discipline to seize on environmental 'sustainability' as that [enabling] rationale when technological glory whiz-bang gets unconvincing amid a rising tide of problems; regarding the first, there are always more than enough people lining up to be authors of objects, and what we need more of is people thinking regionally, and thoughtfully training and acting accordingly. The second, based on the premise that a heady but alienating new age needs an architecture that cannot draw very directly from the human thought-& life-style in past ages, is less immediately important than the other two. (Yet only *immediately.*) It does bear some good discussion. The Renaissance was very much a child of Medieval work, and the Enlightenment likewise of the Renaissance. The Industrial Revolution gave rise to a revaluation of rationality, and Romanticism, Realism et al. were in turn eschewed by Modernism's abstracted ordering. Modernism had some faith in Enlightenment ideals, and you can see, as you look at the detailed organizational strictures of Modernist structures, that the original postmodern text, "The Dialectic of Enlightenment", was right as it claimed, "enlightenment is totalitarian." It sought to impose its worldview on everything it could touch, right down to gridding inhabitants' worlds in machines for living. Deconstruction was to break down the hierarchy and pretense to authority that totalizing worldviews are built upon. It would reassert "the 'fragmentation' of narratives and the individual's ability to be 'the artist of his own life'", as an article last year on common strands linking postmodernism and modern commerce put it. The individual standing out against the grid. In the hands of Robert Venturi, Michael Graves, and the former Modernist Philip Johnson, among others, Postmodernism hit architecture with a wave of reference and diversity. Architects today largely distance themselves from these aesthetic solutions as being tacky and undignified. If they were considered self-indulgent, well, self-indulgence hasn't stopped. Another wave of Postmodernism had the likes of Peter Eisenman and Bernard Tschumi have taken architecture's role after modernism to be that of recognizing and portraying the disorientation of life with all of previous human existence's higher narratives undermined. The Wikipedia page on Tschumi says, "Responding to the absence of ethical structure and the disjunction between use, form, and social values by which he characterizes the postmodern condition, Tschumi's design research encourages a wide range of narratives and ambiences to emerge and to self organize. Although his conclusion is that no essentially meaningful relationship exists between a space and the events which occur within it, Tschumi nonetheless aligns his work with Foucault's notion that social structures should be evaluated not according to an apriori notion of good or evil but for their danger to each other." This disturbance and alienation of certitude and self is present in the Wexner Center at Ohio State - considered by its architect Eisenman to be a very didactic work, and you'll have to see for yourself what he means: http://www.desi.../eisenman/1.jpg In this building at Rice, deliberately acknowledging but then thumbing its nose at a standard grid as it does... I think it's fair to suggest that, precisely along the lines of mls' comment regarding workplace window disputes, it may be that the staggering slots have been substituted for uninterestingly legible treatment of the facade as a way of asserting the individual against the modernist high-rise heritage of non-unique cubbyholes, within the ideological history described above. [Whatever is up in Spain,] SOM just doesn't succeed in making the inhabitants' cellular role less architecturally anonymous or any more meaningful by doing so here. ...In forward progress, I can't say this design has anything real to offer Houston. Not beyond an imitation of the newest status quo. As we look at those windows on the rendering, the final word on the off-balance attitude expressed in the design aesthetic and in Postmodernist theory (not just of the built environment) goes to Ravi Zacharias, a Christian speaker who, when walking around the Wexner Center, asked with a smile, "I wonder if they used the same techniques when they laid the foundation?" Gift for you. Edited September 17, 2007 by H-Town Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyEvilTwin Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Gift for you. That wasn't very nice. How about one for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 ^^^ Touche. Actually, I think it is nice, in the long run. When I first started posting on forums, I would write posts like that, and one time I got burned for it. Whether you're in the scholarly world or the online discussion world, clarity and concision help you most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The CRC is finally rising above ground level! And I just found out that there's a good chance my lab will be moving there when it's complete! It will be nice being in the medical center, although a bit far from the rest of campus. I hope they open up an entrance to campus in that area some time soon, as in the "master plan". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I took these photos yesterday. If you're wondering, this is from the Dryden side of the project, looking in from the fence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Here's an update on the CRC construction. They are getting close to finishing vertical construction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 cool photo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyEvilTwin Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) Anybody ever notice they're building this with a future "phase 2" in mind? Here's a link to a rendering with both phases complete: http://www.collaborativeresearchcenter.org..._Overall_NE.jpgI can't find any info on timelines or other plans for phase 2. It looks about 2 stories shorter than phase 1. Edited March 18, 2008 by MyEvilTwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largeTEXAS Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 In fact, it is not only not a flaw in the rendering, it is considered quite a dignified artistic choice for a modern architect to make. If a boring box has confusing windows, it is NOT to be confused with a shoebox. On one hand, shoebox towers are so discredited in the '00s that architects are falling all over themselves to be the authors of blobs and twisted prisms, yet when the building linked below opened in 2003 and was met with horror in citizen opinion, some architects went on to call the people conservative and phobic for disliking it:http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=79175784&size=o Architecture is disciplinarily obsessed with forward progress. Perhaps this is the form that the urge to be a great author most readily takes when applied to built environments; maybe it is primarily the thing which they consider integrity, based on the idea that past solutions are not suited to our world today; or maybe playing with exciting new structural and technological possibilities is the most inexhaustible trick up architects' sleeve in a generation where architects are getting unprecedented public attention and acclaimed commissions which lend them freer rein or discretion than was common in the long years of post-Urban Renewal backlash, but don't actually have very much to offer up as a justification for why their particular ideas are helping the world in a compelling or conscientious way. Regarding the last, I have been expecting the discipline to seize on environmental 'sustainability' as that [enabling] rationale when technological glory whiz-bang gets unconvincing amid a rising tide of problems; regarding the first, there are always more than enough people lining up to be authors of objects, and what we need more of is people thinking regionally, and thoughtfully training and acting accordingly. The second, based on the premise that a heady but alienating new age needs an architecture that cannot draw very directly from the human thought-& life-style in past ages, is less immediately important than the other two. (Yet only *immediately.*) It does bear some good discussion. The Renaissance was very much a child of Medieval work, and the Enlightenment likewise of the Renaissance. The Industrial Revolution gave rise to a revaluation of rationality, and Romanticism, Realism et al. were in turn eschewed by Modernism's abstracted ordering. Modernism had some faith in Enlightenment ideals, and you can see, as you look at the detailed organizational strictures of Modernist structures, that the original postmodern text, "The Dialectic of Enlightenment", was right as it claimed, "enlightenment is totalitarian." It sought to impose its worldview on everything it could touch, right down to gridding inhabitants' worlds in machines for living. Deconstruction was to break down the hierarchy and pretense to authority that totalizing worldviews are built upon. It would reassert "the 'fragmentation' of narratives and the individual's ability to be 'the artist of his own life'", as an article last year on common strands linking postmodernism and modern commerce put it. The individual standing out against the grid. In the hands of Robert Venturi, Michael Graves, and the former Modernist Philip Johnson, among others, Postmodernism hit architecture with a wave of reference and diversity. Architects today largely distance themselves from these aesthetic solutions as being tacky and undignified. If they were considered self-indulgent, well, self-indulgence hasn't stopped. Another wave of Postmodernism had the likes of Peter Eisenman and Bernard Tschumi have taken architecture's role after modernism to be that of recognizing and portraying the disorientation of life with all of previous human existence's higher narratives undermined. The Wikipedia page on Tschumi says, "Responding to the absence of ethical structure and the disjunction between use, form, and social values by which he characterizes the postmodern condition, Tschumi's design research encourages a wide range of narratives and ambiences to emerge and to self organize. Although his conclusion is that no essentially meaningful relationship exists between a space and the events which occur within it, Tschumi nonetheless aligns his work with Foucault's notion that social structures should be evaluated not according to an apriori notion of good or evil but for their danger to each other." This disturbance and alienation of certitude and self is present in the Wexner Center at Ohio State - considered by its architect Eisenman to be a very didactic work, and you'll have to see for yourself what he means: http://www.desi.../eisenman/1.jpg In this building at Rice, deliberately acknowledging but then thumbing its nose at a standard grid as it does... I think it's fair to suggest that, precisely along the lines of mls' comment regarding workplace window disputes, it may be that the staggering slots have been substituted for uninterestingly legible treatment of the facade as a way of asserting the individual against the modernist high-rise heritage of non-unique cubbyholes, within the ideological history described above. [Whatever is up in Spain,] SOM just doesn't succeed in making the inhabitants' cellular role less architecturally anonymous or any more meaningful by doing so here. ...In forward progress, I can't say this design has anything real to offer Houston. Not beyond an imitation of the newest status quo. As we look at those windows on the rendering, the final word on the off-balance attitude expressed in the design aesthetic and in Postmodernist theory (not just of the built environment) goes to Ravi Zacharias, a Christian speaker who, when walking around the Wexner Center, asked with a smile, "I wonder if they used the same techniques when they laid the foundation?" This design a result of the new status quo? Acknowledged. But, for the most part (except for the western-facing curtain wall), I think the design works and offers the Med Center an exciting and much needed bit of design freshness. These are pics of one particular bit of (amazing) Spanish architecture that I think SOM clearly references: Moneo's Murcia Town Hall Extension http://www.jaunted.com/files/admin/murciaextension.png http://www.arikah.net/commons/en/b/bc/Murc...dralSquare1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Pillars of academia, research and health care gathered Friday among pillars of concrete at the Collaborative Research Center (CRC) to mark a milestone in the building's construction: The 10-story research facility at the corner of Main Street and University Boulevard has reached its maximum height.Some 200 people attended the "topping out" ceremony, applauded as they watched a live oak tree -- rather than a cut tree typically used in this traditional ceremony in the field of construction -- was placed on the top story of the CRC. The oak, which will be replanted on the CRC grounds, represents 45 new trees that will also be planted toward the end of construction.http://www.media.rice.edu/media/NewsBot.as...EW&ID=10796 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernicke Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I'm over at Methodist now... it's kind of cool seeing the construction on the CRC and the new Methodist outpatient clinic from the 10th floor or so.Jax... what is going on with all the other Rice construction, off Main and also at Sunset? I swim with the Rice Master's team, and evidently Rice will be building at 50 meter outdoor pool... where is that going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 As a Rice alumnus, I can safely say that I speak for a large number of us who think that this building looks like complete trash. Rice has a fairly uniform Mediterranean style about its buildings, and not only does this new building not match it, but it is painful to even look at. The building's only redeeming virtue is that it is not physically located in the main part of Rice's campus, but instead across University blvd and away from what is really considered to be "Rice". I have emailed the project manager on this thing voicing my (and many others') displeasure about the look of this, and she didn't bother to reply. This building is an example of architectural group-think at its finest. I'm really pissed about the whole thing.I'm a Rice alumnus, and I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Jax... what is going on with all the other Rice construction, off Main and also at Sunset? I swim with the Rice Master's team, and evidently Rice will be building at 50 meter outdoor pool... where is that going?In Jax's absence, I'll go ahead and give a run down since I just stopped by Rice's construction info office... There are actually a ton of projects going on right now. (Some of these have been mentioned in other threads... but I'll just list them all anyway)1) CRC (webcam)2) South Plant (webcam) - this building will basically provide power/utilities to the CRC and probably eventually some other buildings on this side of the campus.. This is just off Main st.3) New Rec Center - You are right, Rice is building a 50 meter outdoor pool as part of a new rec center that will also have much more+nicer weight/cardio facilities, indoor and outdoor basketball courts, an outdoor recreational pool, and probably a bunch of other stuff. This is going to be put in the empty space across from the business school. They haven't really been doing anything so far except for moving trees - although it is an impressive sight to see them transplant fully grown live oaks.4) McMurtry and Duncan colleges - two new residential colleges (undergraduate dorms) near Sunset and Rice5) Autry Court - Basketball arena is being renovated - should be awesome (although still small compared to other D1 basketball facilities - but who cares, we will still rarely ever fill the place). I think one of the coolest parts of this renovation is that they are building a huge pedestrian plaza that goes around the building that will also serve as a much improved entrance to Reckling Park.6) My personal favorite: Brochstein Pavillion going in the heart of the campus - should be completed within a month, and will feature a coffee house run by Deidrich's, so I will finally have another option for coffee/lunch. Along with the building is a complete renovation of the area behind the library, adding tons of trees, fountains, outdoor seating, etc. Should be really nice.There are also a few other smaller renovation projects going on (drainage/landscaping improvements near the south colleges, renovation of an old building to turn it into an engineering design lab). I have never seen so much green fencing in all my time at Rice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernicke Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Looks like quite the campaign... Should definitely help with recruiting students. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 THanks for the reply in my absence. I think we have a few threads about a couple of these projects somewhere... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Brochstein Pavilion posts have been moved to a new thread here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Collaborative Research Center topping out ceremony:http://www.texmedctr.tmc.edu/root/en/TMCSe...arch+Center.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jax Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 There's a pretty nice view from the roof inside this flash presentation: http://www.rice.edu/virtualtours/campus/to...lash/index.html Click on Bioscience Research Collaborative on the menu thing at the bottom (2nd last link). By the way, this place isn't going to be called the "Collaborative Research Center" anymore. It's now the "Bioscience Research Collaborative". This photo isn't totally up to date but it's newer than the other photos on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Ironic the photo includes the BCM building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Yep, here's the news release for the name change and web site:The BioScience Research Collaborative (BRC), formerly the Collaborative Research Center, launched its new Web site this week as construction of the building's core and shell nears completion.http://www.media.rice.edu/media/NewsBot.as...EW&ID=12460http://www.rice.edu/brc/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Did they make the building taller than planned? From Main Street, it definitely seems like the facility has 12 floors and not 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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