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That's the REAL question! Of course after this amnesty bill goes (GRRRR!!!!) through you can kiss Pasadena goodbye. I wouldn't be surprised if they start flying flags of Mexico over it.

I think the Pasadena that people of my generation remember is already gone. Just a few weeks ago, I took a drive through the old part of Pasadena to see what my old neighborhoods look like now. I grew up there in the 50s and 60s, and lived at several addresses till I graduated from PHS in 1961.

Our first Pasadena address was on Park Lane in the Gardens. Later on, we lived on Lawrence Street, also in the Gardens, on Pomeroy St. on the north side, just a few doors down from the Pomeroy family, and on Camille, two doors off Harris in the old Revlon Terrace neighborhood. All those areas were nice places to live -- back then.

It was depressing to see what is now happening in those areas. Everything north of 225, especially that little area around Pomeroy Street looks like "Little Nuevo Laredo". The Gardens were on the way down when I lived there in the 50s and it's just awful to see them now. Some of the people there have some pride and are taking care of their homes, but most of the houses are slums. There's no other way to say it. Most of Revlon Terrrace appears to be holding up better than the Gardens. In fact, it wouldn't bother me to live there now.

I didn't go through Red Bluff Terrace, or any area south of Southmore, so I don't know what those parts of town look like now.

The old "original" Pasadena, the area bounded on the north by 225, on the west by Shaver, by Southmore on the south, and on the east by Tatar, excuse me, Pasadena Blvd, used to be one of the nicest areas in the whole east part of the county. It was built in the years before WWII, and it was noted for its lovely tree-lined streets, well maintained cottage style houses and green lawns. Not any more. Anyone who remembers what it looked like as recently as 30 years ago would weep if they could see it now.

It's clear that the people who once lived there and took pride in their lovely suburban neighborhood don't live there anymore. Many have moved south to the annexed areas south of Spencer Highway and Fairmont Parkway. I won't be making any more trips back to Pasadena. It's just too depressing.

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The entry to the Gaylynn was always a black concrete surface with a sparkle in it. It may have been refinished prior to the premier. I am fairly sure for the "Urban Cowboy" premiere, they covered the

I think the Pasadena that people of my generation remember is already gone. Just a few weeks ago, I took a drive through the old part of Pasadena to see what my old neighborhoods look like now. I grew up there in the 50s and 60s, and lived at several addresses till I graduated from PHS in 1961.

Our first Pasadena address was on Park Lane in the Gardens. Later on, we lived on Lawrence Street, also in the Gardens, on Pomeroy St. on the north side, just a few doors down from the Pomeroy family, and on Camille, two doors off Harris in the old Revlon Terrace neighborhood. All those areas were nice places to live -- back then.

It was depressing to see what is now happening in those areas. Everything north of 225, especially that little area around Pomeroy Street looks like "Little Nuevo Laredo". The Gardens were on the way down when I lived there in the 50s and it's just awful to see them now. Some of the people there have some pride and are taking care of their homes, but most of the houses are slums. There's no other way to say it. Most of Revlon Terrrace appears to be holding up better than the Gardens. In fact, it wouldn't bother me to live there now.

I didn't go through Red Bluff Terrace, or any area south of Southmore, so I don't know what those parts of town look like now.

The old "original" Pasadena, the area bounded on the north by 225, on the west by Shaver, by Southmore on the south, and on the east by Tatar, excuse me, Pasadena Blvd, used to be one of the nicest areas in the whole east part of the county. It was built in the years before WWII, and it was noted for its lovely tree-lined streets, well maintained cottage style houses and green lawns. Not any more. Anyone who remembers what it looked like 30 and 40 years ago would weep at what's happening to it now.

It seems clear that the people who once lived there and took pride in their lovely neighborhood don't live there anymore. I won't be making any more trips back to Pasadena. It's just too depressing.

It is depressing...and the term "barrio" is very applicable.

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Depressing is an understatment... really.

I don't think it's been mentioned yet, if it has forgive me... the old Gilley's site was purchased by the school district. I haven't really been keeping up with PISD, but I believe they're building another high school there.

Don't quote me on that, though.

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Depressing is an understatment... really.

I don't think it's been mentioned yet, if it has forgive me... the old Gilley's site was purchased by the school district. I haven't really been keeping up with PISD, but I believe they're building another high school there.

Don't quote me on that, though.

I always wondered what they were going to do with that land. I stood there years ago and watched Gilleys burn. Lots of people thought Sherwood Cryer was the cause of the place going up in flames.

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Depressing is an understatment... really.

I don't think it's been mentioned yet, if it has forgive me... the old Gilley's site was purchased by the school district. I haven't really been keeping up with PISD, but I believe they're building another high school there.

Don't quote me on that, though.

Whats really strange is they started building a 2-3 story frame for what looked like a motel or? At least I think it was where Gilley's was. They built a huge frame and then it stood unfinished for about 2 years and I think they tore down?

How or why would someone start something and destroy it? Had to be in a legal dispute or something? Again, I am not positive but it seeemed to be right where Gilley's driveway was as you entered. :wacko:

Like Olivia and John said ...Someone better "shape up" ...hoo...hoo...hooo...hooo

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Whats really strange is they started building a 2-3 story frame for what looked like a motel or? At least I think it was where Gilley's was. They built a huge frame and then it stood unfinished for about 2 years and I think they tore down?

Do you mean the rodeo arena that was next to the nightclub?

It stood for years after the club was closed and then burned. I don't think the arena was demolished until after the school district acquired the property.

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Whats really strange is they started building a 2-3 story frame for what looked like a motel or? At least I think it was where Gilley's was. They built a huge frame and then it stood unfinished for about 2 years and I think they tore down?

How or why would someone start something and destroy it? Had to be in a legal dispute or something? Again, I am not positive but it seeemed to be right where Gilley's driveway was as you entered. :wacko:

Like Olivia and John said ...Someone better "shape up" ...hoo...hoo...hooo...hooo

If you mean the structure to the right of the club it was the rodeo arena, it only had bleachers and a big metal roof.

joe

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If you mean the structure to the right of the club it was the rodeo arena, it only had bleachers and a big metal roof.

joe

NO! HALT everyone stop the presses!

There was a wooden frame placed about 3 years ago or less not way back when. In other words someone gave the OK to build a hotel or shopping center then just called it off.

Everytime I drove by it seemed to darken with the sun and I wondered why they abandoned the project? It may still be standing dont recall. For some reason they just stopped building. Now I need a Lone Star! >:)

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Whats really strange is they started building a 2-3 story frame for what looked like a motel or? At least I think it was where Gilley's was. They built a huge frame and then it stood unfinished for about 2 years and I think they tore down?

How or why would someone start something and destroy it? Had to be in a legal dispute or something? Again, I am not positive but it seeemed to be right where Gilley's driveway was as you entered. :wacko:

Like Olivia and John said ...Someone better "shape up" ...hoo...hoo...hooo...hooo

Well if Sherwood Cryer had any dealings in the property before PISD got it, but if he did, there is very a very good chance of his questionable accounting practices could have cratered the deal.

Here's an interesting article on Sherwood:

http://www.houstonpress.com/1997-05-15/new...od-s-rules/full

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NO! HALT everyone stop the presses!

There was a wooden frame placed about 3 years ago or less not way back when. In other words someone gave the OK to build a hotel or shopping center then just called it off.

Everytime I drove by it seemed to darken with the sun and I wondered why they abandoned the project? It may still be standing dont recall. For some reason they just stopped building. Now I need a Lone Star! >:)

I never noticed it. I will try to drive by on my way home and see it there are any signs left.

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Wow, Sherwood Cryer wears me out just reading about him.

I have lived in Pasadena for 30 years and my wife has lived here all here life. No one I have ever talked to about him has had anything good to say. I have also heard some bad stuff about the guy that owned the Shamrock Hilton, I believe his name was McCarthy or something like that.

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My dad worked for awhile doing site/environmental assessments and had to check out a potential cell phone tower location in the parking lot of Sherwood Cryer's G's Ice House about the time this article came out. He went on a Sunday morning to avoid any run-ins, right after he pulled up Mr. Cryer pulled up in his pick-up. Dad told him what he was doing, and said he remembered the club and the movie. Sherwood told him he liked Michael but not any of Travolta's other movies. Dad soon went on his way and was glad he didn't get run-off/chased off/beaten.

He didn't ask his opinion about Mickey Gilley.

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My dad worked for awhile doing site/environmental assessments and had to check out a potential cell phone tower location in the parking lot of Sherwood Cryer's G's Ice House about the time this article came out. He went on a Sunday morning to avoid any run-ins, right after he pulled up Mr. Cryer pulled up in his pick-up. Dad told him what he was doing, and said he remembered the club and the movie. Sherwood told him he liked Michael but not any of Travolta's other movies. Dad soon went on his way and was glad he didn't get run-off/chased off/beaten.

He didn't ask his opinion about Mickey Gilley.

I've heard Gilley still owns a home in Pasadena...

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I've heard Gilley still owns a home in Pasadena...

Yeah, he does. It's around the corner from where the bar was. HUGE house.

I went to school w/ two of his grand-daughters, in Deer Park- him and his family

are still local.

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Yeah, he does. It's around the corner from where the bar was. HUGE house.

I went to school w/ two of his grand-daughters, in Deer Park- him and his family

are still local.

Thats the part that really blows me away. If I were as rich as him (or at least I hope he still is) why would any one in their right mind stay in Pasadena? He must have several homes spread out the US? Heck, I would have a home on Lake Travis, I mean he aint no spring chicken. He may as well enjoy his golden years in comfort. I would have imagined him living out in Vegas area or in the mountains. Just dont get it. :wacko:

Gilley should keep on recording. I always thought he was quite good. I know his son still sings out in Pasadena. :)

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Thats the part that really blows me away. If I were as rich as him (or at least I hope he still is) why would any one in their right mind stay in Pasadena? He must have several homes spread out the US? Heck, I would have a home on Lake Travis, I mean he aint no spring chicken. He may as well enjoy his golden years in comfort. I would have imagined him living out in Vegas area or in the mountains. Just dont get it. :wacko:

Gilley should keep on recording. I always thought he was quite good. I know his son still sings out in Pasadena. :)

Ouch! C'mon Vertigo! Don't knock Pasadena. We're not all freaks. I promise.

Seriously though, it's a really nice house. I personally grew up in Deer Park,

and remember his house being a bit of a tourist attraction.

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Ouch! C'mon Vertigo! Don't knock Pasadena. We're not all freaks. I promise.

Seriously though, it's a really nice house. I personally grew up in Deer Park,

and remember his house being a bit of a tourist attraction.

I'm not knocking Pasadena and no one called anyone freaks. Everyone above said that the area of older Pasadena has gone to pot. This is what makes me wonder why Gilley would hang around? I could see him in the newer part like over by Beltway 8/Fairmont Parkway. Thats all I meant. I owe everyone a Lone Star that's all. :) Sure could use one about now.

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I'm not knocking Pasadena and no one called anyone freaks. Everyone above said that the area of older Pasadena has gone to pot. This is what makes me wonder why Gilley would hang around? I could see him in the newer part like over by Beltway 8/Fairmont Parkway. Thats all I meant. I owe everyone a Lone Star that's all. :) Sure could use one about now.

well he IS in the "new" part by fairmont and the belt

his mansion is in the box made by vista, preston, fairmont pkwy, and the beltway.

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well he IS in the "new" part by fairmont and the belt

his mansion is in the box made by vista, preston, fairmont pkwy, and the beltway.

off of lily

See that makes more sense.

Lunchbox stated in an above thread:

Yeah, he does. It's around the corner from where the bar was. HUGE house.

(thats what makes anyone think it is near the old Gilleys bar).

I would have said He is now living in far east Pasadena in the newer area off Fairmont/Beltway 8. Oh well.

Peace on Earth :P

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BINGO, It was the Houston House Apts. I think. Across form the Tenneco building.

I always wondered why they didn't give The Roxy building a credit for location, that is the spot where Bud, and his new gal go to the Upscale Honkytonk, and dance.

it wasnt houston house, i have the DVD and just paused it, it was 2016 Main where the new girlfriend lived, when she stands by the window you have clear view of the sign across the way on the building that says, HOUSTON HOUSE APARTMENTS, same sign thats up there now, it just doesnt light up anymore.. I lived inthe Houston House a few years ago, I felt like the bar hussy at Gilley's everytime I came home and looked off my balcony... lol though i did have more furniture in my pad than her.

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I think the Pasadena that people of my generation remember is already gone. Just a few weeks ago, I took a drive through the old part of Pasadena to see what my old neighborhoods look like now. I grew up there in the 50s and 60s, and lived at several addresses till I graduated from PHS in 1961.

Our first Pasadena address was on Park Lane in the Gardens. Later on, we lived on Lawrence Street, also in the Gardens, on Pomeroy St. on the north side, just a few doors down from the Pomeroy family, and on Camille, two doors off Harris in the old Revlon Terrace neighborhood. All those areas were nice places to live -- back then.

It was depressing to see what is now happening in those areas. Everything north of 225, especially that little area around Pomeroy Street looks like "Little Nuevo Laredo". The Gardens were on the way down when I lived there in the 50s and it's just awful to see them now. Some of the people there have some pride and are taking care of their homes, but most of the houses are slums. There's no other way to say it. Most of Revlon Terrrace appears to be holding up better than the Gardens. In fact, it wouldn't bother me to live there now.

I didn't go through Red Bluff Terrace, or any area south of Southmore, so I don't know what those parts of town look like now.

The old "original" Pasadena, the area bounded on the north by 225, on the west by Shaver, by Southmore on the south, and on the east by Tatar, excuse me, Pasadena Blvd, used to be one of the nicest areas in the whole east part of the county. It was built in the years before WWII, and it was noted for its lovely tree-lined streets, well maintained cottage style houses and green lawns. Not any more. Anyone who remembers what it looked like as recently as 30 years ago would weep if they could see it now.

It's clear that the people who once lived there and took pride in their lovely suburban neighborhood don't live there anymore. Many have moved south to the annexed areas south of Spencer Highway and Fairmont Parkway. I won't be making any more trips back to Pasadena. It's just too depressing.

Well Pasadena City Council has been making great strides to clean up old Pasadena, if you notice there are alot of vacant lots because they are requiring slums be torn down, they re-did the Capitain a few years back, i do wish they would restore old Downtown pasadena, areas like Vinces Bridge where Sam Houston Captured Santa Anna needs to be preserved and beautified. There is alot of work to be done. The same needs to be done with Old Harrisburg, it was the capitol of Texas for heavens sake!

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This is a great thread and was gripping to read cause I have been working in Pasadena since 03 and never knew the history behind it.

The only bit of trivia I can add is that Manson family murder victim Sharon Tate went to that Catholic School north of Southmore on Shaver (St. Pius V Catholic School) between 48 and 51. Her family lived in Pasadena but left after her 2nd grade year. The whole church campus looks unaltered to I suppose it looked the same when she went there.

The Shaver and Spencer intersection is one I cross at least a few times a month. I took a look at that vacant lot that was the site of the parking lot puddle wrestling in the film....VERY sad to see how it is today. In fact, I went to that Ward's a few weeks before they were going out of business. The worker in the store was an old lady that said she had been there for about 25 years (back in 02 or 01). If I knew about that filming location I could have gotten info...grrrr. Man I wish I had at least taken photos of the Ward's in the final days. It looked so out of place.

In front of the flea market is a motorcycle shop that opened up about 1 or 2 years ago. On the SW corner of the intersection is an HEB dubed Mi Tienda that opened in early 07. They cater to the Latino market that is like 90% of the population in that part of Pasadena.

One question though...where exactly was Gilley's located? I know there is nothing left of it now but where was it?

Also, what used to be on the land that Walmart on Southmore sits on these days? When was that built?

If anyone wants pics of the Shaver and Spencer intersection I can shoot some anyday...it is a few minutes in the car to get there from work. You may cry if you grew up there when it was still sort of rural and clean.

Heck, I'll do a mini photo survey of the old parts of Pasadena since I have time to kill at work this week.

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This is a great thread and was gripping to read cause I have been working in Pasadena since 03 and never knew the history behind it.

The only bit of trivia I can add is that Manson family murder victim Sharon Tate went to that Catholic School north of Southmore on Shaver (St. Pius V Catholic School) between 48 and 51. Her family lived in Pasadena but left after her 2nd grade year. The whole church campus looks unaltered to I suppose it looked the same when she went there.

The Shaver and Spencer intersection is one I cross at least a few times a month. I took a look at that vacant lot that was the site of the parking lot puddle wrestling in the film....VERY sad to see how it is today. In fact, I went to that Ward's a few weeks before they were going out of business. The worker in the store was an old lady that said she had been there for about 25 years (back in 02 or 01). If I knew about that filming location I could have gotten info...grrrr. Man I wish I had at least taken photos of the Ward's in the final days. It looked so out of place.

In front of the flea market is a motorcycle shop that opened up about 1 or 2 years ago. On the SW corner of the intersection is an HEB dubed Mi Tienda that opened in early 07. They cater to the Latino market that is like 90% of the population in that part of Pasadena.

One question though...where exactly was Gilley's located? I know there is nothing left of it now but where was it?

Also, what used to be on the land that Walmart on Southmore sits on these days? When was that built?

If anyone wants pics of the Shaver and Spencer intersection I can shoot some anyday...it is a few minutes in the car to get there from work. You may cry if you grew up there when it was still sort of rural and clean.

Heck, I'll do a mini photo survey of the old parts of Pasadena since I have time to kill at work this week.

There used to be a big Sears store where that Walmart is located today. I grew up in League City, and that Sears store was the one we always went to, for it was the closest one to our house for 15 years. I imagine it was built in the 50's, but that's a guess on my part. I can't remember that area ever being rural and clean; it was built up and clean, with the Sears, the Weingarten's and the Abel Drugs building.

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There used to be a big Sears store where that Walmart is located today. I grew up in League City, and that Sears store was the one we always went to, for it was the closest one to our house for 15 years. I imagine it was built in the 50's, but that's a guess on my part. I can't remember that area ever being rural and clean; it was built up and clean, with the Sears, the Weingarten's and the Abel Drugs building.

Correct it was a huge Sears dept store and across the street there was a nice Wyatt's Cafeteria. I think there still is a very old fashioned Pharmacy soda fountain across the from where Wyatt's once was. In fact there are still some older business sections of Pasadena that still look like the 1940-50's. Must take picture one day as I always got confused in that city. Its all curves and trangles and stuff. Older parts that is. Maybe should go under Historical Pasadena though. :)

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Correct it was a huge Sears dept store and across the street there was a nice Wyatt's Cafeteria. I think there still is a very old fashioned Pharmacy soda fountain across the from where Wyatt's once was. In fact there are still some older business sections of Pasadena that still look like the 1940-50's. Must take picture one day as I always got confused in that city. Its all curves and trangles and stuff. Older parts that is. Maybe should go under Historical Pasadena though. :)

Able Drugs and the multistory Entex building that was next to it were demolished about 10 years ago and a Walgreens now sits there. Gilleys was located at the SE corner of Spencer and Waters behind a small motel, which is still there. The club and rodeo arena were torn down. Parts of the recording studio are still there but hiden by overgrown weeds and bushes.

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Joe, is that motel east of the bank that sits in the SE corner of Spencer and Walters?

In google maps there is a black top parking lot that looks abandonded but I can't see the remains of the studio.

Also, what was located at the SW corner of Shaver and Spencer?

There is now the HEB (Mi Tienda) store with a blockbuster. The structure was built in the late 90s. Behind it is a Foodtown store that looks pretty old.

The only new construction I have seen in that whole area in the past 4 years has been on Shaver north of Spencer and south of Queens on the west side of Shaver. They demolished a 1940s style abandoned home that was on a really big lot and built townhomes. I think they price just under $100K but the for sale signs that have been there since they were completed are a bad sign. Further south of that on Shaver is a creepy abandoned junkyard with cars and buses parked there. The main building and storage area suffered total collapse in a fire about 2 years ago. Since then it is a ghost town in that tract of land.

Oh, behind the junkyard is a tract of land with several slabs on it. I assume they were apartments on Perez Rd. What was the story on them?

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Joe, is that motel east of the bank that sits in the SE corner of Spencer and Walters? In google maps there is a black top parking lot that looks abandonded but I can't see the remains of the studio.Also, what was located at the SW corner of Shaver and Spencer?There is now the HEB (Mi Tienda) store with a blockbuster. The structure was built in the late 90s. Behind it is a Foodtown store that looks pretty old. The only new construction I have seen in that whole area in the past 4 years has been on Shaver north of Spencer and south of Queens on the west side of Shaver. They demolished a 1940s style abandoned home that was on a really big lot and built townhomes. I think they price just under $100K but the for sale signs that have been there since they were completed are a bad sign. Further south of that on Shaver is a creepy abandoned junkyard with cars and buses parked there. The main building and storage area suffered total collapse in a fire about 2 years ago. Since then it is a ghost town in that tract of land. Oh, behind the junkyard is a tract of land with several slabs on it. I assume they were apartments on Perez Rd. What was the story on them?
The mi tienda is a sign of the changes, When it was Albertson's it closed and HEB opened up...A few years later it closed again, i think it closed 2 times under they HEB brand then recently re opened. Does anyone know what the old food town used to be? It does not look like a standard grocery store. PS: Drive behind the Wards and you can see an old sign that says "Merchendise Pick up" the doors still have MW and wards.com on the botton.
Correct it was a huge Sears dept store and across the street there was a nice Wyatt's Cafeteria. I think there still is a very old fashioned Pharmacy soda fountain across the from where Wyatt's once was. In fact there are still some older business sections of Pasadena that still look like the 1940-50's. Must take picture one day as I always got confused in that city. Its all curves and trangles and stuff. Older parts that is. Maybe should go under Historical Pasadena though. :)
I went with my mom to a store on richey and it had a curved sign that had painted on letter. Weird.
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The mi tienda is a sign of the changes, When it was Albertson's it closed and HEB opened up...A few years later it closed again, i think it closed 2 times under they HEB brand then recently re opened. Does anyone know what the old food town used to be? It does not look like a standard grocery store. PS: Drive behind the Wards and you can see an old sign that says "Merchendise Pick up" the doors still have MW and wards.com on the botton. I went with my mom to a store on richey and it had a curved sign that had painted on letter. Weird.

Food Town was a home improvement store called Builder Square. That one opened in the mid-eighties, and closed sometime in the mid-late '90s (1998?).

There was also one on Fairmont in Pasadena, and on I-45 between Nasa Rd.1 and Bay Area Blvd. A Lowes now occupies the Fairmont location. If you look at the floor, you can see where there were once tiles on the floor. The Clear Lake location is now a Hobby Lobby.

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Joe, is that motel east of the bank that sits in the SE corner of Spencer and Walters?

In google maps there is a black top parking lot that looks abandonded but I can't see the remains of the studio.

Also, what was located at the SW corner of Shaver and Spencer?

There is now the HEB (Mi Tienda) store with a blockbuster. The structure was built in the late 90s. Behind it is a Foodtown store that looks pretty old.

The only new construction I have seen in that whole area in the past 4 years has been on Shaver north of Spencer and south of Queens on the west side of Shaver. They demolished a 1940s style abandoned home that was on a really big lot and built townhomes. I think they price just under $100K but the for sale signs that have been there since they were completed are a bad sign. Further south of that on Shaver is a creepy abandoned junkyard with cars and buses parked there. The main building and storage area suffered total collapse in a fire about 2 years ago. Since then it is a ghost town in that tract of land.

Oh, behind the junkyard is a tract of land with several slabs on it. I assume they were apartments on Perez Rd. What was the story on them?

That was the parking lot for Gilleys on Spencer and Waters.

Before Mi Tienda and HEB and Albertsons were built, that corner was a mall called Pasadena Plaza. It had a Palais Royal and a Panchos Buffet that I can remember.

I'm not sure what the story is on the slabs those used to be houses a long time ago.

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On east side of the Walmart parking lot there was or still is a family photographer? Good Lord, thats where I had my "79" grad photos taken!

and its a miracle the old Casa Ole' restaurant is still in business a few blocks down. Mmmm the green sauce :P

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We used to have friends in Pasadena and would go over there from Baytown to visit and shop some. The old white working class Pasadena is long gone, Nesdel Club, Johnny Lees, I'm Proud to Be a KIKKer, Panchos, Mickey McCarty, Taco Bueno, Ice Houses, the Banditos MC, David Allen Coe, Mr. Dellhoussie gone!

A friend of mine grew up in Pasadena with Bert Coan and we used run his old Chevy pickup ragged going to all the beer joints on old Spencer Highway to watch the pool and shuffleboard hustlers work. You would not believe how much money used to get passed back and forth in those run-down joints.

Mickey Gilley splits time between Pasadena and his theater in Branson, Mo. The night they unveiled the old Gilley's sign at Cowboy Ranch Mickey showed up fer it and threw the switch to relight the old sign.

The guy that owned Cowboy Ranch was a real eccentric which was reflected in Cowboy Ranch. The whole place had symbolic meaning to him right down to the rain gutter than ran down through the center of the parking lot. All the signs in that lot were old Pasadena businesses. He told me the bar was the original bar from the old Galvez Hotel.

The grass used to be greenah in Pasadenah.

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We used to have friends in Pasadena and would go over there from Baytown to visit and shop some. The old white working class Pasadena is long gone, Nesdel Club, Johnny Lees, I'm Proud to Be a KIKKer, Panchos, Mickey McCarty, Taco Bueno, Ice Houses, the Banditos MC, David Allen Coe, Mr. Dellhoussie gone!

Don't forget the beer joints on Preston and Shaver...many are still there.

Remember Ramblin Rose, She's Not Here Ice House, He's Not Here Ice House,

Daily Double, etc..

I think Micheal J's is still going strong...lol. B)

Deana

(from Pasadena)

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BINGO, It was the Houston House Apts. I think. Across form the Tenneco building.

I always wondered why they didn't give The Roxy building a credit for location, that is the spot where Bud, and his new gal go to the Upscale Honkytonk, and dance.

The Roxy? On W Alabama or the old Roxy on Westheimer, which was around about that time. How do you know where that was? I've always wondered what place that was. Info please :D

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The Roxy? On W Alabama or the old Roxy on Westheimer, which was around about that time. How do you know where that was? I've always wondered what place that was. Info please :D

The Roxy was in Highland Village, on the north side of Westheimer, right? The place with all the flashing lights on the cieling.

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The Roxy? On W Alabama or the old Roxy on Westheimer, which was around about that time. How do you know where that was? I've always wondered what place that was. Info please :D

They used to boast or advetise as having a very expensive state-of-the-art sound system. Very popular around 1982. New Wave was hot at this place.

Cardi's way further down Richmond? was another very popular place, saw The Romantic's there.

Daily Double in Pasadena always had a band called "Texas Hurricanes". Wonder if they are still kicking around? Knew lead guitar guy.

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They used to boast or advetise as having a very expensive state-of-the-art sound system. Very popular around 1982. New Wave was hot at this place.

Cardi's way further down Richmond? was another very popular place, saw The Romantic's there.

Daily Double in Pasadena always had a band called "Texas Hurricanes". Wonder if they are still kicking around? Knew lead guitar guy.

Just wanted to say that my hubby and I saw U2 at Cardi's, early '80s, as well as The Ramones.....what an era!!!!! B)

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Cardi's was still going as late as four years ago... A friend of mine went down there to check out a friend's band. We snuck in a bottle of Jager and ended up puking in the parking lot when it was time to go home. Cardi's was fun. The last "real" show I remember seeing there was probably in 2001. A Bad Brains reunion with Candiria and Haste opening, I believe it was. I haven't heard anything about Cardi's in several years, but then these places come and go. It had a decent run, sounds like, U2! Wow. Due to the place's layout my friends and I always speculated that it had begun life as a stripclub.

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Actually, Jim closed the Cowboy Ranch and auctioned the sign on e-bay. Last I remember seeing, someone in Canada was high bidder.

Cute little fact about Cowboy Ranch: The restaurant sat in two cities - Deer Park and Pasadena. There was a yellow line in the restaurant that represented the split... it may have even been the actual line. Either way, it went through a table of four. Since Deer Park was dry, it was rumored you couldn't drink on the Deer Park side of the restaurant, but could drink on the side that rest in Pasadena. I've been there several times, and was only denied alcohol once or twice in certain areas... could have been the staff playing, or the real deal.

The pub I own in Pasadena has a Gilley's Retro Nite every Wednesday. It's a great young crowd and good times, complete with Mickey's son Greg and his posse.

Never a dull moment in Pasagetdowndena... that's for sure.

Speakin' of Greg, his band Rok Brigade Rok Brigade used to play at the club across Spencer from Gilley's. I would also see Helstar there and I ain't sure but.....I think i might have seen the Judy's there? I wish Corners was back.

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I was wondering what the name of the coffee shop was that the fight between Bud and Wes took place? Is it still standing? where is/was it located?

IT WAS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF S.SHAVER AND SPENCER HWY, PASADENA TEXAS,MONTGOMERY WARDS WAS ON CORNER. BACK IN THE 60'S MY UNCLE LIVED AT THAT PROPERTY. MOST OF THE SCENES IN TAHT PICTURE WAS SHOT IN MY HUGE BUILDING ON SPENCER ACROSS FROM GILLEY'S. SHERWOOD CRYER (OWNER OF GILLEYS) WAS IN BUSINESS WITH MY DAD IN THE 60'S.I CAN'T REMEMBER NAME BUT IT WAS LIKE A DENNY'S BUT THAT NAME. I ATE THERE ALL THE TIME. MY BUSINESS WAS ACROSS STREET FOR YEARS. THE HOUSE SCENES WAS IN LAPORTE OFF SPENCER BY AIRPORT.

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NO! HALT everyone stop the presses!

There was a wooden frame placed about 3 years ago or less not way back when. In other words someone gave the OK to build a hotel or shopping center then just called it off.

Everytime I drove by it seemed to darken with the sun and I wondered why they abandoned the project? It may still be standing dont recall. For some reason they just stopped building. Now I need a Lone Star! >:)

YOU DON'T NEED ALONE STAR. THE STRUCTURE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WAS ON SPENCER I/4 MILE FROM S. SHAVER. JUST ABOUT WHERE THE CAFE WAS THAT THEY SHOWED THE FIGHT IN URBAN COWBOY AT. IT WAS TO BE A INDEPENDENT MOTEL THAT LOST THERE FUNDING THRU BANKRUPTCY. IT STAYED THERE A LONG TIME UNTIL 4 YEARS AGO. MY BUSINESS IS 3 BLOCKS FROM IT. I LIVED ON SPENCER WHERE OUR FAMILY BUSINESS WAS WHEN IT WAS A 2 LANE, 4LANE, AND NOW A 7 LANE.

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This is a great thread and was gripping to read cause I have been working in Pasadena since 03 and never knew the history behind it.

The only bit of trivia I can add is that Manson family murder victim Sharon Tate went to that Catholic School north of Southmore on Shaver (St. Pius V Catholic School) between 48 and 51. Her family lived in Pasadena but left after her 2nd grade year. The whole church campus looks unaltered to I suppose it looked the same when she went there.

The Shaver and Spencer intersection is one I cross at least a few times a month. I took a look at that vacant lot that was the site of the parking lot puddle wrestling in the film....VERY sad to see how it is today. In fact, I went to that Ward's a few weeks before they were going out of business. The worker in the store was an old lady that said she had been there for about 25 years (back in 02 or 01). If I knew about that filming location I could have gotten info...grrrr. Man I wish I had at least taken photos of the Ward's in the final days. It looked so out of place.

In front of the flea market is a motorcycle shop that opened up about 1 or 2 years ago. On the SW corner of the intersection is an HEB dubed Mi Tienda that opened in early 07. They cater to the Latino market that is like 90% of the population in that part of Pasadena.

One question though...where exactly was Gilley's located? I know there is nothing left of it now but where was it?

Also, what used to be on the land that Walmart on Southmore sits on these days? When was that built?

If anyone wants pics of the Shaver and Spencer intersection I can shoot some anyday...it is a few minutes in the car to get there from work. You may cry if you grew up there when it was still sort of rural and clean.

Heck, I'll do a mini photo survey of the old parts of Pasadena since I have time to kill at work this week.

SEARS WAS AT WALMART'S SITE. GILLEYS WAS AT WATTERS RD AND SPENCER HWY, THE OLD RECORDING STUDIO IS STILL STANDING TODAY. THE USED CAR LOT ON PROPERTY HAS CONVERTED IT TO A GARAGE. EVEN THOUGH IT HAD FIRE DAMAGE. I HAVE MOST OF THE OLD SOUND EQUIPMENT I BOUGHT FROM THERE.

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Wasn't that the Baytown Mountains?

According to IMDB, filming for Urban Cowboy was at Gilley's, 2200 South Main and 2016 South Main. Those addresses are on Main, and when the street becomes S Main, the numbers just continue. 2016 Main is, of course, "2016 Main". Don't know what would have been shot there. Not sure what is at the 2200 Main location, or if what was there then is there today

WHEN BUD WENT TO FANCY ROOM WITH THE OTHER WOMAN IT WAS IN 2016 MAIN WITH HOUSTON IN BACKGROUND.

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IT WAS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF S.SHAVER AND SPENCER HWY, PASADENA TEXAS,MONTGOMERY WARDS WAS ON CORNER. BACK IN THE 60'S MY UNCLE LIVED AT THAT PROPERTY. MOST OF THE SCENES IN TAHT PICTURE WAS SHOT IN MY HUGE BUILDING ON SPENCER ACROSS FROM GILLEY'S. SHERWOOD CRYER (OWNER OF GILLEYS) WAS IN BUSINESS WITH MY DAD IN THE 60'S.I CAN'T REMEMBER NAME BUT IT WAS LIKE A DENNY'S BUT THAT NAME. I ATE THERE ALL THE TIME. MY BUSINESS WAS ACROSS STREET FOR YEARS. THE HOUSE SCENES WAS IN LAPORTE OFF SPENCER BY AIRPORT.

The following is listed in the 1969 directory for Spencer Highway at South Shaver:

South Shaver

2801 Turner Brown Service Station

2802 Miss R. M. Shannon Res.

2803 A1 Auto Sales

2814 George B. Conces Res.

2816 George B. Conces, Jr. Res.

2826 J. B. Larson Res.

Charley's Liquor Store

2830 Sherwoods

2900 Magic Slides Inc.

2910 Little Shaver Steak House

Little Shaver Ice

3001 Alvin Prentice Res.

3005 Alto Transmission Shop

3007 Gandys Barber Shop

3009 The Medicine Chest

3019 Bob Morin Motors

3020 David's Hardware Company

3028 Vickis Drive In

SPENCER HWY INTS

3101 Currys Service Station

3102 M Presley Sinclair

3200 Zale Jewelry Company

3230 J. C. Penny Co. Inc.

3316 Bill Dane Auto Air

3322 Homa Bronk Res.

3324 The Monterey House

3402 Sierras Apartments

Spencer Hwy

2217 Plaza Realty Co.- A. E. Exley

2221 Earl Hall Res

2222 Montgomery Ward Company

2232 J. Weingarten, Inc.

2301 Whataburger Drive In

2406 Dunkin Doughnuts

2408 Toppers Steak House

2417 Apts.

2511 Franklin Jackson Res.

2513 Wiley Ordis Res.

2626 Osborne-Apple Ford

2632 GG Western Shop

2634 The Superette

2636 Frederick Tire Factory

2638 AAA Health Food

2640 Kirby Mattresses

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The following is listed in the 1969 directory for Spencer Highway at South Shaver:

2634 The Superette

Now that is really going back in time!

There was a Superette Grocery Store in near North East Houston on Lockwood/Liberty Road. I wonder if it is the same chain? It was a simple flat roofed space age style building with candy striped roof supports that tiled at an angle. I would freak out if it was the same people/chain. The building is still there but has been remuddled and is now a small skating rink. Just wondered. :)

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