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The RO: Mixed-Use Development At West Alabama And Buffalo Spdwy.


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15 hours ago, ekdrm2d1 said:

Class AAA Office.  Would this be a Houston first? Thinking that's just a marketing term, and they actually mean Class AA.

 

there's no real classification system for office properties - it's all marketing more or less. AA/A+ is commonly used for the newest asset classes, though.

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21 hours ago, Geoff8201 said:

A couple things I heard through the grapevine...

 

Parcel 1 at the corner of Buffalo and Alabama will be a 37 story luxury residential building for rent.

Dang, that's gonna block my view of NRG Stadium. ☹️

 

OTOH, I'll have some great construction pics to post. 🙄

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49 minutes ago, CREguy13 said:

In this situation I would lean more towards the project scope having grown and now of higher value.  If Jon Pickard is involved, I'd be shocked if it came below expectations.

From what I have heard, they designed too expensive of a building and are redesigning it. They would need about $10 psf (25%) above market rents to make a market return on the building they designed. 

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22 minutes ago, SMU1213 said:

From what I have heard, they designed too expensive of a building and are redesigning it. They would need about $10 psf (25%) above market rents to make a market return on the building they designed. 

 

Not surprised, honestly. The advantage to get these large scale developments is that we get new urban cores to both infill and later grow out from, but the disadvantage is that you are having to spread out your monies to multiple buildings instead of one. Its highly likely in that situation that the quality per building is going to go down. Then again, in this new phase our city is in, we are looking for more quantity than quality. At some point when you get a good critical mass of quantity will quality arise from that.

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  • The title was changed to Construction Along The Rail Road Tracks at Westheimer near Highland Village

My bad thinking about another project 

8 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said:

What is this area called? It definitely is coming into it's own as another major  Houston Skyline after Downtown, Uptown, and TMC ( don't know if upper Kirby  or Greenspoint can be called this yet). Many cities would give up an arm to claim one of these skylines. 

Dont worry some hipsters PR firm will at some point  rebrand it..lol

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If you really want to get technical, it is *considered* Greenway and River Oaks, but those are just lose terms since they really aren’t in either one proper. It’s not Upper Kirby because a representative with UK giving a talk was clear this project was outside their vision for UK. The border runs on the west edge of Buffalo speedway. As soon as you walk off of Buffalo onto the sidewalk by the RO site  you just left Upper Kirby.

 

Added a photo just because these man made borders are interesting.... UK red sign on traffic lights, regular COH green sign on sidewalk intersection (far left in photo)

 

On an unrelated note, saw a yellow crane (also in photo) getting set up in that direction and got excited. But it was on a small property just west of the RO site. Need to look up what that is. Lots going up in this area.BAB37640-5D2C-4D6E-98AD-C002F1FB41CB.jpeg.11376939e7c43a73899de5d4ef759530.jpeg

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3 hours ago, Geoff8201 said:

If you really want to get technical, it is *considered* Greenway and River Oaks, but those are just lose terms since they really aren’t in either one proper. It’s not Upper Kirby because a representative with UK giving a talk was clear this project was outside their vision for UK. The border runs on the west edge of Buffalo speedway. As soon as you walk off of Buffalo onto the sidewalk by the RO site  you just left Upper Kirby.

 

 

So if you really want to get technical it is not considered Greenway Plaza or River Oaks (or Upper Kirby). It is not within the boundaries of any of those. It is near all of them so will likely be loosely (and technically incorrectly) referred to as being part of all three of those from time to time.

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16 hours ago, Houston19514 said:

 

So if you really want to get technical it is not considered Greenway Plaza or River Oaks (or Upper Kirby). It is not within the boundaries of any of those. It is near all of them so will likely be loosely (and technically incorrectly) referred to as being part of all three of those from time to time.


Yes, you are correct, but that’s why I used the term *considered*, and used it loosely. Not by any city planning entity, but just by people whom may or may not occupy the area. Makes this area complicated to classify, (hence our posts on the subject) but like you said they will probably be referred to by all three.

 

Upper Kirby does have a defined boundary you can physically see in the signage, Greenway and River Oaks not so much (at least none I have ever noticed). This is a gray area, where if you walk one block north, you’re in River Oaks, one block south, Greenway, and just cross the street east, boom you’re in UK.

 

I’ve been in this area a long time and have heard places not in the boundaries use “A River Oaks Address” and the always popular hyphenated “River Oaks - Greenway“. Upper Kirby is the newest and physically the closest but still catching on. Upper Kirby Plans to redo West Alabama from Buffalo Speedway on eastward and make the area more walkable, which will be some benefit to the RO.


Speaking of which, All one has to do is look at the project name to know which neighborhood they plan to say they are in. I don’t foresee that changing.

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3 hours ago, Urbannizer said:

 

This is actually big time news (I don't believe we knew who the architect was). Knowing that the renders, previously shown, are from PickardChilton definitely gives me more confidence that what was shown is something that will actually be constructed. For those that want to see what they have done in the past look no further than the Exxon Mobil Campus. The dude loves cantilevers, so that one tall building with the top cantilever might actually be legit, and the material palette is also something that is consistent with PickardChilton.

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8 hours ago, Luminare said:

 

This is actually big time news (I don't believe we knew who the architect was). Knowing that the renders, previously shown, are from PickardChilton definitely gives me more confidence that what was shown is something that will actually be constructed. For those that want to see what they have done in the past look no further than the Exxon Mobil Campus. The dude loves cantilevers, so that one tall building with the top cantilever might actually be legit, and the material palette is also something that is consistent with PickardChilton.

Gensler had a big hand in that project! Pickard has produced better high rises in my humble opinion...but they do add more credibility towards the realization of this project. 

 

I wonder who the architect(s) of record will be?

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Michael Hsu is also involved:

 

Many other projects are still in the design phase, including a new Katz’s Deli location in The Heights, The RO mixed-use project and Zadok Jewelers in Uptown. In addition, Hsu said there are several other projects in the works that aren’t public knowledge yet.



Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/houston/news/architecture-design/michael-hsu-is-happiest-in-your-neighborhood-103059?utm_source=CopyShare&utm_medium=Browser 

 

And I read somewhere that Preston Partnership is AOC for the residential high-rise.

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So the RO is still in design phase? Thought designs were just being finalized? Makes sense I guess as to why the groundbreaking hasn’t begun. The grass was starting to get a little tall, but yesterday groundskeepers were there with riding mowers keeping it from being an eyesore.


Mid 2020 was the scoop I heard before, but that’s 7 month old information. It is just days from March so seems like a more realistic time frame now. Will see.

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