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mmmmm... I love the smell of fresh fenestration in the morning...

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So glad to see this happening... this was one of the worst eyesores in the city. Is the plan just office? Is it for a specific company or is it a spec renovation? Also when was it last used before becoming abandoned?

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Does anyone have a quick link to the most recent rendering released? Is it supposed to be flat glass all the way up? 

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Nice!  I hadn't seen these.  Even better than the initial ones.

I agree! The last renderings I saw where quite ugly, these look clean and more modern. If your going to destroy this funky building's facade, at least do it with a little grace and civility.

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Between this and 800 Bell, I suppose the latest, greatest fad is to use the sunscreens for a little bit of extra square footage.  It's our current equivalent of the various methods of recladding that were used on buildings like 806 Main right about the time these were being built.  I hate losing the genuine Rat Pack vibe.

 

I've got to say, though, I like this remodel much better than what's proposed for 800 Bell, which IMHO is more of a remuddleing.  :ph34r:

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Between this and 800 Bell, I suppose the latest, greatest fad is to use the sunscreens for a little bit of extra square footage.  It's our current equivalent of the various methods of recladding that were used on buildings like 806 Main right about the time these were being built.  I hate losing the genuine Rat Pack vibe.

 

I've got to say, though, I like this remodel much better than what's proposed for 800 Bell, which IMHO is more of a remuddleing.  :ph34r:

 

Central Bank is a dump and unused - anything is better than what it is.  Anything!  800 Bell is a fine tower built with a 60s vibe and style.  No need to muddle with that, but its going to happen.  I guess its better than a tear down

 

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Central Bank was recently an unused dump, sure.  However, there was a time when it was occupied and reasonably well maintained.  At that time and under those conditions, it was aesthetically pleasing, even if not fully in keeping with more recent design trends like glass on every possible wall.

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Central Bank was recently an unused dump, sure.  However, there was a time when it was occupied and reasonably well maintained.  At that time and under those conditions, it was aesthetically pleasing, even if not fully in keeping with more recent design trends like glass on every possible wall.

 

Obviously this goes without saying for a lot of buildings similar to Central Bank, in countless cities nationwide.  Personally I have long felt it was an interesting building that was primed for a good re-use.  Unfortunately it has just been the subject of property neglect and very prominently located property neglect to boot.

 

Its still unused.  And still a dump (in its current condition) even if it is being worked on.

 

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I like the resurrection. 

 

I'm going to miss the sunshades and the flagstone veneer.  Properly maintained, they were pretty.

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Glass is going up, but it looks like someone already managed to smash a couple of the windows!  (click for larger view)

 

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Glass is going up, but it looks like someone already managed to smash a couple of the windows!  (click for larger view)

 

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With their safety record, the overnight security guard could have been joyriding the forklift... :wacko:

 

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jeez. I wonder if it was vandalism or they put their expansion joints in wrong.

Id say vandalism, you can see the center of impact on both windows, someone one the street threw a rock or a brick at them. Assholes.

When this happens, does the building company just take the loss as "incidentals", like, this kind of thing was already covered in the budget and there are already extra windows laying around just in case?

Or is there already some kind of insurance against vandalism, theft, earthquakes, fire, flood etc, on a structure that is being worked on?

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Thats a good question. I'd imagine the land owner has the insurance for this kind of thing. The contractor, if its significant enough will issue a change order (assuming a lump sump contract). The owner probably turns it over to the insurance company. If it's Time and Material, It muddies it a little bit, but I imagine insurance claim is still possible. 

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Damage during construction would typically be covered by a builder's risk policy, which owners usually require GCs to carry.  I suspect that there wouldn't be a claim turned in for two panes of glass - if it even makes the deductible in the first place, it would be by such a small amount as to make it not worthwhile.  

 

I doubt that it was just a couple rocks thrown by some street punk, though, unless said street punk is also a pitching prospect who just has control issues.  It takes quit a bit to compromise curtain wall glass.

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Hmmmm... Looks like they still need to tint the ones that broke. Nice progress though.

They need to replace the whole panels still. It's multi layered facade and only the outer layer cracked. They peeled most of the broken glass away but you can still see the jagged pieces around the edges.

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Guess that means the small Central Square sign is going bye bye. It'd be cool if they kept it and moved it into the lobby or something. Dont even repaint it. Keep it dilapidated and faded. 

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As long as the clock stays, I'm good. Can't wait to see that thing lit up and rotating. The younger crowd has no idea how noticeable and bright that clock was when illuminated. Hopefully, they'll fix it so that the colon doesn't remain lit when it's showing the temperature like it did before it was shut off.

The sign on the wall never had the word "Square" that I remember. Like the clock, it said "Central Bank" originally. When it was changed, the word "bank" was removed from both, the clock got an off color labelscar with the word "Square" put in place under "Central", and the wall lost the "Bank" portion and became simply "Central"...

...not that any of that means a hill of beans, lol...

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Saw them working on the sidewalk area on Webster just the other day. This project looks so promising... hopefully these homeless bums don't try to ruin it.

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The sign on the wall never had the word "Square" that I remember. Like the clock, it said "Central Bank" originally. When it was changed, the word "bank" was removed from both, the clock got an off color labelscar with the word "Square" put in place under "Central", and the wall lost the "Bank" portion and became simply "Central"...

...not that any of that means a hill of beans, lol...

 

I drove by it today. Youre right the "sqaure" sign is different looking. Never knew that. Never noticed it before either.

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Yessir, it's not quite the same font(?) as the original word Central. Worse yet, when they replaced the word "Bank" on the clock, they never bothered to paint the clock. I haven't paid attention to the back in a longtime, but it used to have a lablescar that clearly said "BANK" underneath and a little below where the current "Square" part now is affixed.

It gets better. If they ever light the clock up, as is, the Square is noticeably brighter than the Central. The time colon was stuck on all the time, regardless of whether it was displaying time or temp, and the below zero "-" next to the temp would come on when the time displayed.

That was some 25 years ago now. I can only imagine the problems the clock likely has now after all this time dormant. For all I know, it's rusted solid in place. I haven't personally seen it move in years, and it may very well not do so anymore. I don't remember even Ike moving it from the current position. The clock's face has been towards 45 all of this time. I hope against hope that the developer will go that extra mile and go all in on the restoration of the clock, but common sense tells me that it, like The Savoy sign, is a goner.

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Theyve pulled off the entire facade that had "Central" Written on it. You can see a portion of the lateral system (the cross braces) for the structure are still intact. Curious if they'll still put windows there or alter the design. 

 

The New windows are now rather visible from I45. 

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It's the same way where they started removing the facade on the back side where the colorful paint splatters are.  Can't they just add bracing to some interior columns and remove the exterior bracing?
 

Theyve pulled off the entire facade that had "Central" Written on it. You can see a portion of the lateral system (the cross braces) for the structure are still intact. Curious if they'll still put windows there or alter the design. 

 

The New windows are now rather visible from I45. 

 

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I havent seen it from that side in a while. 

 

But the answer is, not necessarily, bracing out the outside will add stiffness to the exterior framing of the structure.  If you put it on the interior you may remove capacity--- It all kind of depends on the design though. 

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Theyve pulled off the entire facade that had "Central" Written on it. You can see a portion of the lateral system (the cross braces) for the structure are still intact. Curious if they'll still put windows there or alter the design. 

 

The New windows are now rather visible from I45. 

 

This rendering shows the windows in place without changing out the cross braces.

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Anyone around to take pics of this building?  I'm out of town, so I'd love to see if any progress has been made during the last three weeks.

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LOTS of progress has been made! This one good enough for ya?

 

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Awesome.  Thanks, phillip_white!  This is SUCH a huge change for midtown.  Once this is finished, 800 Bell is redone, and the Days Inn magically disappears, rooftop views from midtown (and Pierce Elevated views) are going to be SO much better.  If only 2016 Main wasn't such a monstrosity...but I digress.

 

Great pic.

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