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USC is known as the University of South Central. That doesn't come as a huge compliment in L.A.

UCLA fans/grads call USC all sorts of things. Two of my favorites are;

University of the Second Choice

University of the Spoiled Child

Classics!

That said, most people would be surprised to know that incoming freshman at USC score higher on the SATs than incoming fish at UCLA.

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UCLA fans/grads call USC all sorts of things. Two of my favorites are;

University of the Second Choice

University of the Spoiled Child

Classics!

That said, most people would be surprised to know that incoming freshman at USC score higher on the SATs than incoming fish at UCLA.

I had a friend who went to UCLA. He said they called it United Caucasians Lost among Asians. I thought that was pretty funny.

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UCLA fans/grads call USC all sorts of things. Two of my favorites are;

University of the Second Choice

University of the Spoiled Child

Classics!

That said, most people would be surprised to know that incoming freshman at USC score higher on the SATs than incoming fish at UCLA.

If that is even true, that must be a *very* recent development.

Having said that, UCLA has 2-3x as many incoming freshman as USC. Once you account for that, it's not even close.

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If that is even true, that must be a *very* recent development.

Having said that, UCLA has 2-3x as many incoming freshman as USC. Once you account for that, it's not even close.

Another big difference between UCLA and USC is that UCLA is a public institution, part of the UC System, whereas USC (University of Serious Cash) is a private institution that charges hefty tuition.

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USC is in the middle of a hood. I have seen the campus plenty of times. The immediate area around the campus isn't too bad, but just a block or so over, you are in the hood (makes fifth ward look like Katy).

Oh, and don't ever walk down those back alleyways in between the houses. One of LA's most notorious gangs (along Hoover street, so that should tell you want the gang is), is just south of USC's football stadium (Exposition Park). In fact, Hoover Street is one of the entry ways into the stadium.

Anyway, good news about UH. I still have that college on my list.

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Here are a couple photos I snapped this afternoon.

The first few are the new retail development on University Dr. in front of the Campus Recreation and Wellness Center.

The way the building is aligned, the retail will front on the driveway to the existing UH parking lot. It won't front on University Dr.

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Here's a photo looking east down University Dr:

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Also, here are two photos of the trees being transplanted into the median of Calhoun at University Drive (just a few hundred feet from the new retail center). FWIW, the medians are all fenced off all the way from Wheeler up to where Calhoun dead ends near the old Pizza Hut. It would appear to me that there will be a lot of trees transplanted from the site of the new dorms to the Calhoun median.

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the trees are a great addition. i'm glad they rescued them. hopefully the rainy summer will be good for them.

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are they going to remove the strip center that runs along calhoun all the way to the old pizza hut?

I don't know the details, but I'm pretty sure it will be coming out as part of the Master Plan. Don't know when it'll happen, but I'm happy to see how quickly several parts of the Master Plan are being put into motion (Cullen Lofts, new Engineering Bldg, upcoming Cullen Blvd closure).

It's nice to see something on Calhoun, but I would hope UH's focus is on Scott Street. It's the more visible part of campus, and businesses there can draw from both students and local residents.

That being said, I don't know if anyone will make a move on Scott Street until all the property acquisitions for the Metro Light Rail are finalized.

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It's nice to see something on Calhoun, but I would hope UH's focus is on Scott Street. It's the more visible part of campus, and businesses there can draw from both students and local residents.

Cullen is the key street at UH. scott is key to the UH stadium but the part of campus where classes take place isn't really tied to scott at all.

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http://www.uh.edu/uhtoday/2007/08aug/08060...rage_rvote.html

August 6, 2007

REGENTS TO VOTE ON NEW PARKING GARAGE

As the University of Houston continues to grow, parking remains a concern for members of the campus community.

Soon, parking worries might be eased as the UH System Board of Regents will vote on a proposal to construct a $9 million garage that will contain 900 to 1,000 spaces. The board will vote on this item Aug. 16.

David Irvin, associate vice president of plant operations, presented the garage

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6 parking garages? Those could be serious eye sores on a college campus if not done well. Lets hope for the best.

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You can do some amazing things with parking garages these days. Some, you can't even tell they're garages, from the street they look like buildings. Tech's "Garage Mahal" is a good example:

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I think this is great. One of the things I like the least about UH was the sea of asphalt parking lots. They could have save so much room by building parking garages. Texas started to do this while I was at school with the goal to reduce surface lots (especially within the central part of the campus) to create more green space and reduce the number of cars on campus. It was great. Less cars, less lots made for a nicer campus. The one thing that bothered me about the plan was the danger of a ring of parking garages sealing off the campus from the rest of the city.

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The one thing that bothered me about the plan was the danger of a ring of parking garages sealing off the campus from the rest of the city.

Well, the first two parking garages are on Calhoun, pretty near Spur 5 and the railroad. That side of campus is pretty well sealed off from the city as it is.

The one bad thing I can foresee about parking garages...where the hell will we tailgate when all the surface lots are gone?!?

UH's Master Plan depends on these parking garages to better utilize its space. They plan to almost double the square footage of campus buildings while also increasing the amount of green space on campus. That's cool as hell.

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is this garage going to be on the same side of calhoun as bauer/new grad housing or is it going to be on the other side of calhoun where there's supposed to be more housing in the future?

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is this garage going to be on the same side of calhoun as bauer/new grad housing or is it going to be on the other side of calhoun where there's supposed to be more housing in the future?

Garage will be on east side of Calhoun (opposite side from the Calhoun Lofts).

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i thought there were supposed to be undergrad housing going on east side of calhoun, kind of disappointing.

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Well, the first two parking garages are on Calhoun, pretty near Spur 5 and the railroad. That side of campus is pretty well sealed off from the city as it is.

The one bad thing I can foresee about parking garages...where the hell will we tailgate when all the surface lots are gone?!?

UH's Master Plan depends on these parking garages to better utilize its space. They plan to almost double the square footage of campus buildings while also increasing the amount of green space on campus. That's cool as hell.

I went to the law school so I know that part of the campus is sealed from the city. I was refering to UT. If you go to the main campus, the entire campus (except the drag) is surrounded by parking garages.

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I went to the law school so I know that part of the campus is sealed from the city. I was refering to UT. If you go to the main campus, the entire campus (except the drag) is surrounded by parking garages.

Do UT-Austin's parking garages have retail on the ground floor like UH's garage?

I don't know if that's planned for Garage #2, but I certainly hope so. From the Master Plan map that I recently saw, it looks like Garage #2 will take out the Pizza Hut and the old Rothers/Black-Eyed Pea/Chinese Star strip center.

Hopefully the 1,000-bed Calhoun Lofts will generate enough traffic to warrant retail in the ground floor of Garage #2.

Kyle, I think I also read somewhere that there would eventually be some undergrad housing on the east side of Calhoun. Not on the horizon just yet, apparently.

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You can do some amazing things with parking garages these days. Some, you can't even tell they're garages, from the street they look like buildings. Tech's "Garage Mahal" is a good example:

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You're right! Maybe they can make it "architecturally significant" like the Hines garage on Main.

Oh wait, never mind.

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You're right! Maybe they can make it "architecturally significant" like the Hines garage on Main.

Oh wait, never mind.

lmao...good point...as long as the new garage looks like the one that just went up across the Rec Center, then it's all good!

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lmao...good point...as long as the new garage looks like the one that just went up across the Rec Center, then it's all good!

The existing UH garage is nothing spectacular, in my opinion.

Here are a handful of photos I found online:

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The existing UH garage is nothing spectacular, in my opinion.

Here are a handful of photos I found online:

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but its better than most bland parking garages....the real good thing about the new garage is the retail on the ground level....

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Supposedly, the construction site across from the Rec will be the new Pizza Hut. They're gonna bulldoze the old one once it's complete to make way for the Calhoun Lofts/Garage project.

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http://www.uh.edu/plantops/fpc_project.html

Have these been posted before, or are they new? I can't remember.

I have either seen or heard about the pics before. However I took a stroll on campus this weekend and found some interesting things happening. The retail development has started up and they had a building erected as well as some stone/brick type streets layed or paved. It looks very promising. The development is located on Univeristy Dr. and across from the Wellness center. Looks like it will be a pretty pedestrian friendly area. I am not sure if they have anything else planned for the area but this will be an attractive entry point into the University.

Also there is another project under way on Calhoun, I think it may be the lofts mentioned. They have broken ground and and began establishing the foundation I believe. However there are concrete stilts or beams I would guess one could expect to see the formation of a building pretty soon.

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It's already set in stone that Cullen will close sometime in May or June. Leveling has begun on the foundation of the new Cemo Business Classroom Building and the old Y Building will be torn down over the summer to construct the new Engineering Building

However the buzz around campus is that enough funding is in place for construction to begin on the Endzone facility at Robertson. A timeline for construction is not surprisingly unknown but an announcement is expected to come around the bowl game. Also Dr. Khator is preparing to secure funding from the state to help build the new Wheeler St. dorms as well as major renovations to the Towers, which are LOOOONG overdue. Fundraising should begin soon after.

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I really hope they raze Cougar Place. Those apartments were never intended to be used for so long. If you leave a piece of paper out for a couple of hours, it'll get soggy (unless you have a dehumidifier or the a/c running).

Good news about Renu Khator. She seems like a great replacement for Gogue. Even without as much state coddling at UT and A&M, UH seems to be doing just fine.

Go Coogs!

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I really hope they raze Cougar Place. Those apartments were never intended to be used for so long. If you leave a piece of paper out for a couple of hours, it'll get soggy (unless you have a dehumidifier or the a/c running).

Good news about Renu Khator. She seems like a great replacement for Gogue. Even without as much state coddling at UT and A&M, UH seems to be doing just fine.

Go Coogs!

Yeah, totally!!!! I lived in Cougar Place for two years, and it's pretty horrible.

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Cougar Place, exactly why I hate the new "dorms" that they built. Its the same crappy apartment style construction that doesn't last; read stick construction. Plus the way they are designed, doesn't lend itself to college type living. I mean they are fenced in and are far from campus proper by foot travel. What they should do is build a tower and say that nothing can be built that is more than 15 minutes by foot away. UH has serious urban sprawl.

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I left U of H for UCLA back in the early 80's, managed to earn a Business degree in between hanging out at Westwood Village and crashing parties in Bel Air. The U of H lacks that kind of atmosphere surrounding it's campus they are no safe places to hang out, and partying in the area is dangerous. It will probably changed once the Third ward area increases it's new and renovated housing stock, get rid of the homeless crowd, drug dealers and clean up the blight.Would love to see the Scott St. corridor from I45 to Elgin lined with small shops, restaurants,clubs etc. the land is there just need someone with a vision!

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Cougar Place, exactly why I hate the new "dorms" that they built. Its the same crappy apartment style construction that doesn't last; read stick construction. Plus the way they are designed, doesn't lend itself to college type living. I mean they are fenced in and are far from campus proper by foot travel. What they should do is build a tower and say that nothing can be built that is more than 15 minutes by foot away. UH has serious urban sprawl.

Stick construction doesn't have to be crappy. It really has more to do with whether they hired a crappy contractor or have maintained it crappily. Also, if all they did was to demolish and rebuild Cougar Place, they could get probably twice the density out of stick and much better quality, compared to what is there, and all with a price tag that students could still reasonably afford. Highrises are frickin expensive.

I know that a fenced community goes against what architects are indoctrinated to believe, but UH is still bordered by the 3rd Ward and still has some crime problems that are related to the neighborhood, so those tall rought iron fences are probably justified.

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Having lived on campus all three of four years of attending, i always thought UHPD kept the core of the campus relatively crime-free; except for the normal college antics. The only places I felt uncomfortable late was along Scott , in the parking lots by the intramural fields, or walking past the Sigma Nu house on a friday night.

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Cougar Place is in the right place for student living because if they ever bring rail to UH it will probably be along Wheeler and students living on campus will have easy access to it. I'm not sure the placement for the new lofts on Calhoun is a good idea because 1) it is far from other student residences and 2) they demolished a major student parking lot when UH doesn't have enough parking spaces for students.

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They are building parking garages to replace the surface parking.

...yeah and then charging prices so high that vacant spaces are abundant.

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Niche, UH already sells more parking permits than parking spaces. So it won't be a problem getting those garages filled. And I don't think it costs any more to park in the garage than surface lots. Its a flat rate permit.

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Niche, UH already sells more parking permits than parking spaces. So it won't be a problem getting those garages filled.

Of course they sell more permits than there are spaces. If they had sufficient parking to provide every commuting student their own assigned space, that'd be madness. What'd you think that every student arrives at 9AM and leaves at 6PM like an office building?

And I don't think it costs any more to park in the garage than surface lots. Its a flat rate permit.

Wrong. They charge a lot more for garage parking.

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I didn't think they would allow students to use their parking passes to park in the garage. They should really allow all of them in since they are demolishing a lot of spaces. The new resident life building isn't the first time since the site for the new science and engineering complex also used to be parking.

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So they get rid of surface parking and charge more for parking in the garage that it replaces? That's just wrong.

edit: I just did a quick look at the rates, its not a lot more to park in the Garage compared to regular parking, a difference of $77/year or $38/semester. That's cheap compared to all the other fees.

Student Parking Permits Annual Semester Spring/Summer

Garage $200.00 $120.00 $200.00

Resident Hall $172.00 $103.00 N/A

Student $133.00 $79.00 $133.00

Economy $50.00 $50.00 $50.00

Economy Plus $75.00 $75.00 $75.00

Disabled $124.00 $74.00 $124.00

Motorcycle $50.00 $50.00 $50.00

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So they get rid of surface parking and charge more for parking in the garage that it replaces? That's just wrong.

edit: I just did a quick look at the rates, its not a lot more to park in the Garage compared to regular parking, a difference of $77/year or $38/semester. That's cheap compared to all the other fees.

Not cheap when you're just a student trying to make ends meat. And yes, there are students that'll pay it, but they aren't a very deep market. Like I said earlier, that's why there's a higher parking vacancy rate in the garage than in the surface lots.

But part of the problem, I think, was that the garage was approved when UH enrollment was at its peak, but as the local economy improved dramatically from 2005 to present, many students have been enticed away by well-paying jobs, causing a slight dip in enrollment instead of the continued increase like had been anticipated. If that'd happened, the surface lots would be so packed that the high garage rates would be more easy to swallow.

There's nothing inherently wrong with replacing x surface parking spaces with x*3 garage parking spaces and charging a sufficient amount to cover construction costs if the new spaces can be filled. UH just needs to do a better job with enrollment/demand projections.

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Not cheap when you're just a student trying to make ends meat. And yes, there are students that'll pay it, but they aren't a very deep market. Like I said earlier, that's why there's a higher parking vacancy rate in the garage than in the surface lots.

I'm a student at UH and I couldn't get a garage parking permit because they where all sold out for this year. Students are definitely using the garage BUT I wonder how popular some of the garages will be that are proposed out by Spur 5. I'm a Hilton student so the existing garage is extremely convenient, however I would not buy a permit in any other garage.

I think it is impossible to gage the use of the proposed garages from the whole university student body. Each garage will most likely have varying popularity and that will probably lead to garages that are further from the core of campus being less expensive. This is all my own speculation, and this assumes that the garage permit you purchase is only valid in a specific garage.

Regardless I am ecstatic about the 20 year master plan. I was at this homecoming address last year where our previous university president revealed the plan and it was just an amazing feeling. Everyone in the room was ecstatic and they showed all those awesome videos. I think the friend I was with cried.

Also, before I go, I'm not sure anyone has mentioned whats going on at the Hilton College. There are some plans that are coming to fruition about remodeling much of the Hilton College at a little under 12 million dollars. There was also a large gift to redo the library and a new coffee shop is going to open next to Barron's next year. There are also a few other rumors going around. Much of the money is going to go into the guest rooms and ballrooms and plans are in the works for possibly more student involvement in the hotel.

Go Coogs!

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Niche, $38/semester is like 8 Starbucks coffees or 1 tank of gas. Hardly a deal breaker for today's students. I understand your point, but UH is trying to plan for the future, so I'm all for tearing up surface parking and doing something else with it. The Garage at UH1 is pretty nice with retail/services on the ground floor.

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Let's not forget that some kids will park in the garage to help protect it from the elements. Plus some might use it as almost like storage once alternative transportation becomes available to them with the city and use it to go to Galveston, Austin, or home on weekends.

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Niche, $38/semester is like 8 Starbucks coffees or 1 tank of gas. Hardly a deal breaker for today's students.

It is percieved as a luxury good relative to Starbucks and especially gasoline. Consumer psychology is funny that way.

I'm honestly surprised that they sold out. I parked there mid-day during the Spring semester for an event held at the Hilton, and there was plenty of vacancy. And anecdotally, for a long time, there were people that dissed the garage for vacancy. Perhaps they allow for a certain level of vacancy intentionally--I dunno.

UH is trying to plan for the future, so I'm all for tearing up surface parking and doing something else with it. The Garage at UH1 is pretty nice with retail/services on the ground floor.

Oh, yeah. I agree there. Long term, garages are the way to go...I'm indifferent to the street-level retail, and it seems like UH is always eager to embrace whatever architectural fad is hot at the moment, producing a mish mash effect...but whatever.

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It is percieved as a luxury good relative to Starbucks and especially gasoline. Consumer psychology is funny that way.

I'm honestly surprised that they sold out. I parked there mid-day during the Spring semester for an event held at the Hilton, and there was plenty of vacancy. And anecdotally, for a long time, there were people that dissed the garage for vacancy. Perhaps they allow for a certain level of vacancy intentionally--I dunno.

Oh, yeah. I agree there. Long term, garages are the way to go...I'm indifferent to the street-level retail, and it seems like UH is always eager to embrace whatever architectural fad is hot at the moment, producing a mish mash effect...but whatever.

I parked there once. It was wall-to-wall cars. Horns blaring. People driving in circles looking for a spot. And anecdotally, for a long time, there were people that dissed the garage because it didn't offer valet parking. Valet parking is a must for a garage that was very busy the one time I used it. :)

By the way, UH isn't building garages and retail because it's a fad. The school is building those things because land is getting scarce. The days of massive surface parking lots on UH owned land are vanishing because it is no longer the best-use for the land. Adding in retail also gives people choices. With 50,000 visitors a day to campus, it's pretty smart to offer eating establishments, copy/fax services, dry cleaning, etc...

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