Gwendolynn Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I saw a post a LONG while back by Ojy in this and another forum (where I'll be copying this post) She never did scan in all those family photos.. she's my sister, so I'll apologize for her (she's had a kiddo and is about to have another one, and they kill brain cells, ya know). So, here's random photo I found of the car rides at Kiddie Wonderland http://www.angelfire.com/tx5/seributra_d/kw1975.JPG (not embedding it because it's not stored on my own space yet) Here's a black and white gallery I found while web-crawling which shows some of the ugliness that was our amusement park, there towards the end: FZC photography- Kiddie Wonderland I saved this forum in my bookmarks so I can share if I come across more (or if, heaven forbid, I manage to get access to the family albums and scan in ours, hehe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDallas Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Does anyone have interior photos of the Savoy of Houston in her glory days?There is a thread on HAIF that has pics of what it looks like now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 From today's Chronicle comes this article about a large collection of documents and photos related to the early years of public transportation in Houston. The collection recently turned up in an estate sale in Missouri City, and has made its way into the hands of the author of the book about Houston's streetcars that was published about 10 years ago, and the city's Preservation Officer.I find this of personal interest, as the estate sale was that of one of my relatives.Chronicle article: A ride through our transportation past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I can't wait to see this stuff. Read about it here http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5851165.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 It's great that the material was located and Baron can use it. Houston Electric is a neat book, and a supplement to it would be interesting.Maybe when he is done with the material he'll give it to a library, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1976 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Maybe when he is done with the material he'll give it to a library, etc...That's his plan. It will probably go to the HMRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaE Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 That's his plan. It will probably go to the HMRC. That's what I read, in the Hou. Chronicle article. Good to know a history buff found the collection, and passed on the info. Three cheers to that fellow! I'm writing out my unofficial "HAIF will" instructions, I'm making a list of names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 ^I needed to look more closely...it's Monday though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssullivan Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I knew this collection existed nearly 20 years ago when it was mentioned one time when we were at his house visiting. Too bad I never got to see it, but I'm thrilled it's made it into the hands of someone who will put it to good use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Thanks so much for the post and link. Every afternoon on my commute home i pass by the old electric car right of way adjacent to 45 South and Beltway 8. Keep thinking it would be nice if someday more information surfaced to fuel my imagination.... Thanks again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 It was a real thrill to locate that collection after knowing about it all these years, but not being able to see it. When I was researching my book I contacted Lambert about the materials but he apparently wasn't in a "sharing mood" at that time. So it was really seredipidy that the collection surfaced again and someone tipped me off about it. And since I don't live in Houston anymore, it was fortunate that Randy Pace of the city historical preservation office was able to help me arrange the purchase from the estate.The collection has a few photos but is mostly ledger books with legal documents, board meeting minutes, and other fairly esoteric stuff. I'm looking forward to going through it all, and yes, I do intend that it will eventually end up at the HMRC where it can be used by other researchers.Thanks for the nice comments on this forum about this acquisition. I was going to post something on the Houston Chronicle site (where people comment on news stories) but you wouldn't believe the asinine comments some people have left. I decided not to waste my time there!Steve Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 It was a real thrill to locate that collection after knowing about it all these years, but not being able to see it. When I was researching my book I contacted Lambert about the materials but he apparently wasn't in a "sharing mood" at that time. So it was really seredipidy that the collection surfaced again and someone tipped me off about it. And since I don't live in Houston anymore, it was fortunate that Randy Pace of the city historical preservation office was able to help me arrange the purchase from the estate.The collection has a few photos but is mostly ledger books with legal documents, board meeting minutes, and other fairly esoteric stuff. I'm looking forward to going through it all, and yes, I do intend that it will eventually end up at the HMRC where it can be used by other researchers. Thanks for the nice comments on this forum about this acquisition. I was going to post something on the Houston Chronicle site (where people comment on news stories) but you wouldn't believe the asinine comments some people have left. I decided not to waste my time there! Steve Baron Well, we should be thanking you for the time and effort you're putting into it and sharing it with us. The devil is in the details and I'm sure the ledgers give some interesting clues as to what happened. I look forward to any information you can share about it as well as a future book on the subject. Oh yeah, the people at Chron.com are tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Note dupe topics merged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaE Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hard to believe, that whole intersection (see pics above) at Lyons & Jensen has disappeared, where the Roxy Theater was, very eerie. What happened to it?Thanks Isuredid for sharing the priceless pics! what a great thread. Anyone know anything about that Lee El. School? Sits so high on that slope, can see the back of it from I45N. What year was it built? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nm5k Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I like the "then and now" pictures.. IE: the one of Lyons and Jenson..Where did all the buildings go.. Looks like a different city..About the only thing I can see that might be the same in each is the storm drain by the curb, and the man hole cover out in the street.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_S Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I like the "then and now" pictures.. IE: the one of Lyons and Jenson..Where did all the buildings go.. Looks like a different city..About the only thing I can see that might be the same in each is the storm drain by the curb, and the man hole cover out in the street..I have no idea. Probably didnt have no one going to those businesses and slowly just got sold off or abandoned and then torn down. In the 2006 picture it looks like there is alot of missing grass patches if those buildings were torn down a long time I would think that the grass would have covered all the area by now.That is what makes vintage photos so good. I have a small collection now from specific photos I saved between 1950 - 1970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 On the right side the telephone pole and traffic light support look like they could still be in the same location as in the original photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_S Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 On the right side the telephone pole and traffic light support look like they could still be in the same location as in the original photo.Looks like they are. The telephone pole is probably the same one in the orignal photo but the traffic light pole was changed out obviously since they now hang the traffic lights from wires above the road instead of off to the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1976 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I wrote about the Jensen/Lyons intersection in a blog post last year. The photo is from 1956http://blogs.chron.com/bayoucityhistory/20...en_now_4_1.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaE Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Thanks, Gonzo. The Cinema Houston book talks about the Roxy Theater, and states (about that spot) that there is not much there anymore. What a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misplaced txgirl Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 gonzo, i'm really enjoying the blogs in the chron., especially the then and now pictures. i agree, i think it's the same pony in ALL the pictures of little kids... i realized when looking at the pony picture, i have my own then and now too... i have the picture of me on the pony in the late 50's in cottage grove, and who would have thought years later, that little kid would be named the US National Champion with her own horses several times, especially with one that was spotted too... more then and now pictures please...thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I have no idea. Probably didnt have no one going to those businesses and slowly just got sold off or abandoned and then torn down. In the 2006 picture it looks like there is alot of missing grass patches if those buildings were torn down a long time I would think that the grass would have covered all the area by now.That is what makes vintage photos so good. I have a small collection now from specific photos I saved between 1950 - 1970.I think those missing patches is concrete foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retama Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I used to spend a lot of time in this area as a young police reporter and I heard some wild tales about it before I ever saw it from an old Houston cop I used to know. This is the "Little Pearl Harbor" section made famous by its vice rackets and killings and by blues singers like Weldon "Juke Boy" Bonner who wrote songs about it.The area was in very sad shape as far back as 1980 when I first saw it: lots of abandoned and burned out buildings. It was essentially an urban ruin back then created by the drug plague. Crime drove a lot of people out. Dopers would squat in the empty buildings and burn them down. The owners didn't have the money or the will to rebuild and the place was just wiped out. Same thing is happening in inner city Detroit where there are so many open, unpopulated areas that wildlife are moving back into them.I drove back to this section of Fifth Ward earlier this year and was stunned at the block and blocks of empty lots where the grass is reclaiming the sidewalks and even the streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampLogan1917 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 The photo from the San Jacinto Monument Observation Deck is truly magnificent, isuredid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuan1274 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 That one reminds me of the old one on Pasadena Street in the East End. Don't forget to take and post a photo of that one, if you get a chance. I wonder when this was printed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmech1112 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Is this house and the other colonial mansion still around? I grew up 3 doors down from this house on the corner of Pasadena and Satsuma. For most of my life it was a room and board house but I believe in the late 80s or early 90s it was purchased by a frat. My mom told me that she talked with someone with the frat and they were planning on restoring the house to original condition. He also told her that they had found a set of original blueprints when they cleaned out the cellar. I guess they didn't get around to fixing the place up. I think it was built around 1902. There are a few old mansions in this neighborhood on Alta Vista and Forest Hill but none are Colonials. This area was supposed to have been like another River Oaks but instead ended up a middle class neighborhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I grew up 3 doors down from this house on the corner of Pasadena and Satsuma. For most of my life it was a room and board house but I believe in the late 80s or early 90s it was purchased by a frat. My mom told me that she talked with someone with the frat and they were planning on restoring the house to original condition. He also told her that they had found a set of original blueprints when they cleaned out the cellar. I guess they didn't get around to fixing the place up. I think it was built around 1902. There are a few old mansions in this neighborhood on Alta Vista and Forest Hill but none are Colonials. This area was supposed to have been like another River Oaks but instead ended up a middle class neighborhood. That same bldg is discussed in East End section under structures past & present I think? I also remember seeing the frat logo hanging above the entry in the 80', 90's? Sure is almost exact image of famed Animal House and it probably was. Forest Hill is a one of a kind neighborhood which must have been built up in the cities true heyday. Very similar to the old and once beautiful nabes in Dallas. Newcomers should BUY/live here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headrush77 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 "Does anyone remember the old restaruant at 6400 Richmond that used to be train cars. I think it waa cheesy steakhouse. What was that place called?"Could that be where the Railhead Restaurant was located. That may have been my first time out to the Richmond Strip in 1978. A supervisor took a co-worker and me out for dinner in appreciation of our work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccowles Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Victoria's Station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headrush77 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Subdude, you wouldn't by chance have pictures of the old Windsor theater would you? Always wanted to know what that place looked like. I worked there when it was a tejano nightclub. (still turns my stomach whenever I think about it). Used to always wonder about it when I was there.Is that the current location of 24-Hour Fitness or Galaxy Golf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilioScotia Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Is that the current location of 24-Hour Fitness or Galaxy Golf?Don't know anything about Galaxy Golf -- it's not listed in the phone book -- but it's not the 24 Hour Fitness location. That's down the street in the 5700 block of Richmond. The late great Windsor Theater was at 5302 Richmond, at the eastern-most end of the Windsor Plaza shopping center, almost at the corner of Richmond and Post Oak. It was shut down for some years, but some entrepreneurs bought it in the 90s and turned it into an entertainment complex they called City Lights. I have no idea what is there now. Or if the theater building is even there any more. So sad. The Windsor was one of Houston's first Cinerama and Panavision screen movie houses, and showed first runs of many of the greatest movies of the 60s, 70s and 80s. It was really grand and expansive on the inside with a decor that would knock your eyes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Julio Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I'd love to find any period photos of the OUTSIDE/entrances of some of Houston's musical night spots of decades past:The Paladium Club (aka Jerry Irby's Texas Corral) on South MainDokey's HallClub Ebony on DowlingCook's Hoedown Club on CapitolThe End o' Main Dance Hall on South MainWestern Jamboree Club - 105 1/2 MainSixth and Studewood Dine & DanceRoseland Ballroom on FranklinAragon Ballroom on MainThe Brass Rail - downtownAny place on West Dallas or the 4th WardWonder Tavern in PearlandHarbor Lights on McCarty (vintage, not recent)to name a few.About the only clubs that exteriors do exist for are: The Jimmy Menutis Club, the Eldorado Ballroom, and the Club Matinee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I'd love to find any period photos of the OUTSIDE/entrances of some of Houston's musical night spots of decades past:Roseland Ballroom on Franklin Aragon Ballroom on Main Wow! You must be psychic! Just the other day I was jogging mom's memory again and she said the local kids (teens) used to walk over to The Roseland for a dance matinee as she called it. You were allowed entry to dance to your favorite swing music till you passed out & without a chaperone! I think she said it was during the day approx 2:00 PM to whatever, just be sure I asked where it was and she said Franklin. I wonder when it vanished? Had to have been there in mid to late 40's. At that time all they had were those giant electric fans for cooling off after dancing like crazy. The crowds would huddle around the fans like bee's. We really have it good nowadays! PS, you may want to glance at Houston's Orchestra's and Ballrooms topic for pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 In reply to various bits:Yes, what is now Splashtown was originally opened as Hanna Barbera Land. I never went while it was HB land but they must have had to do some serious remodeling to make it into a water park.The all-you-can-eat seafood restaurant on Westheimer was Boston Sea Party.Yes, the train cars were Victorias Station. There was one on South Main which later became Antones.Anyone remember Pipe Organ Pizza?MartyThe Wikipedia article for Hanna Barbera Land was largely composed from a letter I got from the manager of Splashtown. I'll scan it someday.Is that the current location of 24-Hour Fitness or Galaxy Golf?I know that strip center! It wasn't in Rice Village...but it wasn't too far away. I ate at a dirty Middle Eastern buffet there. Anyone know the name?(sorry for doubleposting) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Saw this on Swamplot: Google is apparently in the process of adding about 10 million photos from the Life Magazine archives to its images search.Just looking quickly (using the Google Images search "houston 1946 source:life"), I've already seen some great large 1946 Houston shots I'd never seen before, including:The old city hall/bus station, and surrounding area.Christie's SeafoodA view inside the Cotton ExchangeSan Felipe Courts/Allen Parkway VillageA Sears store being builtA "McCarthy Center" signA sign showing the site for the Ford plantA sign showing the site for the Medical CenterThe Bayou ClubA great aerialFrom other years (>1946):Inside an H&P storeThe Goodyear blimp advertising the Shamrock The Houston Press welcoming MacArthurPolice officer photographing EisenhowerHouston family during atomic war drillThe family's list of things to do in case of atomic warThe monorail: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6UofH cougarKILT tower in front, I think, of Joske'sFuneral of last confederate soldierSoldier when still alive, at age 116 (color)Survivor of Poe Elementary bombingConstruction of JSCJFK, Jackie, LBJ at LULAC convention, Nov 63JFK and Jackie Nov 63JFK at Houston airport Nov 63Sammy Davis Jr. at civil rights rally in Houston1965 crowd at trail ride opening Houston Livestock Show (color)Mrs. Neil Armstrong at home, after Gemini 8 mission cut shortRoom in Astrodome or Astrodome hotel?Room in Astrodome or Astrodome hotel?Room in Astrodome or Astrodome hotel?Hoffeinz office, I think - sameHoffeinz watching gameRoom in AstrodomeAstrodome bowling alley?Astrodome shooting game?Astrodome hair stylist?Mrs. Jim Lovell and friend (color)Neil Armstrong, 1969, lighting a cigar (color)Mrs. Buzz Aldrin watching coverage of splashdown (color)Buzz Aldrin at Astroworld (color)<1946:Army convoy passes Houston"A view of the River Oaks Housing Project" - same title - same - can't tell what these areI'm sure others will find or be able to identify things I missed or got wrong. I really hope there are more old Houston photos added as the rest of the Life photos come online.Can anyone tell what's/where's shown in these photos?:NeighborhoodBoulevardStreet with traffic Update: I found the above photos using "Houston 19xx source:life" Google Images searches. But it looks as though there are at least some old Houston photos in the collection that don't have a date listed, which wouldn't have come up in my search. Edited December 9, 2008 by tmariar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 great summary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Boulevardsouth main?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 south main??I bet you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Pretty sure that is South main. Looks like the Episcopal Church across from Rice Univ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Can anyone tell what's/where's shown in these photos?:BoulevardStreet with trafficsouth main??I bet you're right.Yes, looks like Main Street, looking north from approximately where the Audrey Jones Beck building is now located (the "new" MFAH building.)The "Street with traffic" picture appears to be Allen Parkway, coming into downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) I'm guessing the "River Oaks Housing Project" shots (1, 2, 3) might be of the back of the River Oaks shopping center, and then those apartment buildings that were just south of there on Shepherd. But that's just a guess. [Edit: This undated aerial shot makes me more certain that's correct.]I think you're probably right about the "Street with Traffic" (1946) photo, dbigtex - what was then called Buffalo Drive. Maybe the lanes headed into town are right there but blocked from view by the traffic? Here's a 1956 photo of Buffalo Drive for comparison.Still don't have a guess on the "neighborhood" photo. Here's an old shot of River Oaks Blvd. for comparison. Edited November 20, 2008 by tmariar added link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfroggy Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) The "boulevard" is definitely Main. That's St. Paul's Methodist in the right foreground and it fronts on Main. Edited November 20, 2008 by toadfroggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 A Sears store being builtThe photo is dated October 1946; HCAD shows a Sears building listed at 3404 N Shepherd Dr being constructed 1950 (of course, they're notoriously sloppy about dates.)Could that be the one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Still don't have a guess on the "neighborhood" photo. Here's an old shot of River Oaks Blvd. for comparison.river oaks....chevy chase at mockingbird....i think.here now? Edited November 20, 2008 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The photo is dated October 1946; HCAD shows a Sears building listed at 3404 N Shepherd Dr being constructed 1950 (of course, they're notoriously sloppy about dates.)Could that be the one?I hadn't thought about that one - I only thought of the Buffalo Drive Sears and midtown (Main St.?) Sears, and had ruled those out. The Garden Oaks Sears is a good guess! Still there, as far as I know.river oaks....chevy chase at mockingbird....i think.So is that the driveway to something at the bottom of the photo? It's not as dirty as the street, whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 A great aerialWhat's the squatty building with the dome in the upper left corner of this (1946) picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) So is that the driveway to something at the bottom of the photo? It's not as dirty as the street, whatever it is.just added a link. think it's to a st called sleepy hollow ct. Edited November 20, 2008 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) just added a link. think it's to a st called sleepy hollow ct.Yep - that's got to be it.What's the squatty building with the dome in the upper left corner of this (1946) picture?Don't have an answer, but am I right in saying that building is on Crawford, between McKinney and Lamar? I was trying to judge based on where the Texas State Hotel is in the photo. Edited November 20, 2008 by tmariar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaE Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Those are fabulous pics, think the Sears may have been the one on Harrisburg, I recently ran across it in the Sanborn maps, listed as being built 1946-47. That shot of the San Felipe Courts is great. You can really see huge the complex was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnu Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 The "Street with traffic" picture appears to be Allen Parkway, coming into downtown.I think its West Gray instead of Allen Parkway - comparing it to where City Hall is.BTW someone may be interested in this shot of pecan park (musicman? danax? oops)Southmayd Elementary is center right with the circle drive. Redwood st. in foregroundhttp://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=8...c48b65e3d_large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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