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Weingarten's were everywhere in the 60's I believe the grocery store at Meyerland Mall started out as a Weingarten's.

I think the first grocery was either a Henke's or an A&P..the first Weingarten's I remember was at Weslayan and Bissonett and later a new one built in Bellaire near Cedar Street , west of Rice between Bellaire and Bissonett both stores are now Randall's.

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Here are the locations I recall in Houston. It was interesting that a lot of the "anchored" Weingarten's were also in shopping centers with a Walgreen's.

1. Memorial City. The location is now where the Ice Rink is. The store was huge and could be accessed from the parking lot or the mall. It also had one of those "bucket" systems to send groceries out of the parking lot loading zone. When malls started getting rid of grocery stores it became "United Jewelry and Distributing".

2. Hillcroft and Beechnut. The space is now a Foodarama. I lived in Braeburn Terrace until I was 11. We would actually walk to the store and get our groceries. We had 1 car until I was 10, very normal for families in the early 1960's. When they had the grand opening my mom filled out a card for free groceries. We went in there one day and she had won a ton of stuff. It seemed like it took forever to load the car and unload at home.

3. N. Braeswood and Chimney Rock. The store which is now Belden's was a Weingarten's. Originally the section which is now a wide sidewalk in front of the stores was a mini-mall which went from Walgreen's to Weingarten's and was air-conditioned.

4. S. Gessner and 59 (between Beechnut and 59). I can't recall exactly where in the shopping center it was. The center was anchored by a Handy Dan and the theatres at the time. This was the very first grocery store in Houston that had electronic cash registers and then became the first to have scanners. I remember going in there marveling at how modern the place was. THe registers spoke the price to you.

5. Fondren and 59. The store was in what is now Loehmann's. When Woolco and Weingarten's were running that shopping center was extremely busy.

6. Bellaire Blvd and Kirkwood in Alief. Another one of Weingarten's "mini-malls" connecting Weingarten's and Walgreen's. There was a Goodyear tire center on one end. And in the parking lot was a Tenneco gas station. Many times in 1979 I drove out there after work to stand in line on my "day" to buy gas. Don't recall is I was "odd" or "even".

7. Fondren & W. Bellfort- The store is now a Fiesta.

8. Target Grocery locations-Sometime in the late 1070's Target decided to get out of running/owning the grocery stores connected to their stores. In Houston Weingarten's took that over from them. The 3 locations I can remember this happening were the store on 59 just north of Bellaire Blvd (now a resataurant supply), Katy Freeway between Bunker Hill and Lantern Lane (now Marshall's etc), and S. Loop between Griggs and Wayside (building became and Auchan's briefly).

9. Hillcroft & Westheimer-South side in shopping center where 99 cent only and Office Depot are. Store was somehere in the middle of the shopping center.

I remember my mom had her favorite stores that we were only allowed to shop at. These were her top 4.

1. A&P

2. Weingarten's

3. Sacco Bros.

4. Henke & Pilot

Then as the landscape changed so did her list.

1. Lewis & Coker

2. Piggly Wiggly

3. Rice Food Market

She was never really enamoured with Randall's. She said only "rich" people shopped there.

She did not like Kroger after she said they destroyed H&P. She went to school and grew up with the kids of the H&P family.

When Safeway made its failed attempt to come in she refused to shop there because the stores were filthy and they were from California and we knew what came from California.....fruits and nuts is what she said. I love my mom dearly but she just lived in that generations world.

Now she and my dad almost exclusively shop at Foodarama.

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Weingarten's were everywhere in the 60's I believe the grocery store at Meyerland Mall started out as a Weingarten's.

I think the first grocery was either a Henke's or an A&P..the first Weingarten's I remember was at Weslayan and Bissonett and later a new one built in Bellaire near Cedar Street , west of Rice between Bellaire and Bissonett both stores are now Randall's.

No the grocery store in Meyerland Plaza was a Henke & Pilot and later became a Kroger. Then an antique store.

Yes you are correct about the 2 locations on Bissonett

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Weingarten's sold to Grand Union, which didn't last long (there could be a thread here on grocery store chains from elsewhere that didn't make it here). Safeway took over some of the Grand Union locations (Safeway was already here). When Safeway sold its Houston area stores to pay off some debt, they became AppleTree Markets, headed by a former Safeway exec who retired shortly thereafter and AT began to fall apart, eventually retrenching to just a couple of stores in B/CS.

The Fiesta at W. Bellfort and Fondren was originally a Weingarten's, then Grand Union, Safeway and AppleTree. I shopped there under all the banners.

The Seller's Brothers at Weslayan and S. Braeswood was a Weingarten's; it was one of the ones that was forced by a lease agreement to hold on to either the Weingarten's or AppleTree name long after the companies had exited the market as I recall.

The Weingarten's in Freeport, on 2nd Street, just east of Brazosport Hi, was opened in the early 50s; a Penney's shared the center. The building has been demolished. The HEB on Plantation at Dixie in Lake Jackson was originally a Weingarten's.

Back in October, JR Gonzales did a post about Henke and Pillot on his Bayou City Houston blog, with dates, pictures, addresses and tons of comments. I can't get the individual post to come up but here's a link to the October archive on BCH - it was a great month of features on Houston history.

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Yeah, AppleTree was by and large a failure. It really downscaled from Safeway (dropping prices, though) and died with a whimper when the last one finally closed in late 2009.

The local Weingarten's in CS lasted from 1982-1984, became Safeway (I think?), moved to Culpepper Plaza (the older location becoming Toys R Us), became AppleTree, and then closed in the early 2000s.

It was eventually knocked down during redevelopment and rebuilt as two smaller store spaces, one of which is a Spec's today (the other side is vacant).

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Yeah, AppleTree was by and large a failure. It really downscaled from Safeway (dropping prices, though) and died with a whimper when the last one finally closed in late 2009.

As I recall, AppleTree was started in 1988 when some former Safeway executives bought about a hundred greater Houston area Safeway stores to start a new chain of their own. I remember stories that said it was "Employee Owned", and we all remember how "successful" it was.

The owners filed for bankruptcy protection in 1992 and started selling off its stores to various competitors. The last Houston AppleTree store closed in 1997. The last of ALL the AppleTree stores were in Bryan and they were sold in 2009.

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The two Weingarten's from my childhood were the Bellaire location on Bissonnet (now a Randall's) and the Dunlavy/West Alabama one (now a Fiesta). We always bought Christmas trees at the Dunlavy one and I remember the wire-covered table warmed by light bulbs that housed dyed Easter chicks. My mom also got our cards for "Let's Go To The Races" there and Big Bonus stamps. My father (commercial interior designer) also had the pleasure of working with Joe Weingarten and said he was a true gentleman; very civic-minded and cognizant of what the people of Houston thought.

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wasn't there a location at Gessner and Westheimer on the north east side....what ever store it was had a "signature" peaked roof that all their stores had and at this particular location after you checked out the sacker took your cart of groceries over to the west side of the building through a little waiting area and you got your car and drove up under a large awning and held up your number and the sacker came out with your stuff and loaded it in

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wasn't there a location at Gessner and Westheimer on the north east side....what ever store it was had a "signature" peaked roof that all their stores had and at this particular location after you checked out the sacker took your cart of groceries over to the west side of the building through a little waiting area and you got your car and drove up under a large awning and held up your number and the sacker came out with your stuff and loaded it in

The old Randalls at Westheimer @ Gessner was originally a Handy Andy, which opened in 1973 (not a Weingarten's). Randalls bought out Handy Andy and in turn, acquired the property in 1979, expanding it in 1988 and then demolished it in 2010 for a new "lifestyle" store.

Additionally, I believe that the Randalls store nearby, at 1407 S Voss was also originally a Handy Andy since it has the same exact peaked roofline, footprint and stone facade that the old Westheimer/Gessner store had.

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The two Galveston Weingartens stores are still standing. The location on 25th St. became a Gerland's, then Arlans until hurricane Ike. The building is now vacant. The other store on Broadway at 59th St. is now a Big Lot's.

There was one A&P on 23th St., now a funeral home.

The Henke and Pilot is still standing on Ave U, now a Goodwill store. Kroger operated out of this building for awhile until it built a larger store across the parking lot (now an Academy). Kroger also had a store on 4th St. in the back of the former Port Holiday Mall, now part of UTMB.

Piggly Wiggly had four stores in Galveston when it acquired a local family chain (Evans). All of these buildings are still standing. The one on Broadway is an auto parts store, the one on 45th at Ave S is vacant, and the one on Stewart at 69th street is now some kind of community church. The last one on University Blvd. at Market St. is still operating as an Arlan's.

Lewis and Coker had a store next to K Mart on Stewart Rd. now part of Marshall's.

Safeway had a store on 61st St. at Stewart Rd., became an HEB Pantry, now a private school.

Randall's is still operating a decent store on 61st. St.

Kroger now has the lion's share of business with it's massive store on the Seawall.

Walmart and Target service the remaining amount of business, with a few independents picking up scraps.

HEB abandoned the island, and it's plans for a larger store, after hurricane Ike.

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The one in Rosenberg was located at 2516 Avenue H, and anchored the Plaza Shopping Center. That center was built in the late 60s on the site of the former Rosenberg High School which had been demolished just prior to construction, since Lamar High had opened nearby and was larger and more modern.

It featured some of the hallmarks of the other stores mentioned. A large peaked roof and expansive windows on the parking lot are the design points that come to mind immediately. I can't say that I have any experiences at the store as a Weingarten's since I wasn't around yet... but I do know that either in the late 70s or early 80s, it became a Budget Chopper location within the Brookshire Brothers' chain. I used to always go there with my grandma when she'd get groceries since that was one of her two favorite places to go, more due to location than anything else, since it was within a mile of her house. Years after it had become a Budget Chopper, she'd still refer to it as Weingartens. In her home, I think there's at least an old paper or plastic bag with the "red dot" logo on it. There may or may not be some spices on her rack with some labels from the store as well. Might be worth checking.

I think the store closed in the late 90s or early 2000s, and has since become a 99 cents only location. Most of the building's original modern elements are hidden behind stucco now.

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It featured some of the hallmarks of the other stores mentioned. A large peaked roof and expansive windows on the parking lot are the design points that come to mind immediately.

That's what I remember about our local Weingarten's (on the northeast corner of the intersection of Long Point and Wirt, in Spring Branch).

Gerland's FTW, though. Our local store was on the north side of Long Point, between Ridgecrest and Pech. It's amazing how miniscule it was compared to a typical supermarket these days, and yet I still remember it as having everything we needed. That Gerland's is the archetypal grocery store for me.

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Back in the early 1980s, I worked as an
ad agency
account supervisor who handled the regional Weingarten grocery store account (Texas, Okla and La). Among my many tasks was to produce the weekly television commercials which were in a "donut" format, meaning the beginning and ending stayed the same and I dropped in whatever products were being featured that week in the middle. That required me to actually secure the featured items for videotaping which became a huge and ongoing problem. I literally could
NEVER
find the products Weingarten wanted to promote in their TV spots
AT
a Weingarten's store. I had to go to Randall's or Kroger to secure those items. Ironic much? Additionally, Weingarten stores were nasty, stinky and dirty, as were their employees. The meat area smelled rancid, there was always dried blood on the meat shelves and the dairy case consistently smelled of spoiled milk. (The Weingarten in the Heights on Studewood past 11th St. was absolutely the worst.) And the checkers were the most awful and incompetent people I've ever seen. They could literally kill your appetite and some of them you didn't want touching your groceries. If the reek of B.O. wasn't enough, then perhaps a shopper might enjoy the bleeding and crusty sores I saw on more than one employee's forearm. An order of shingles to go, anyone? I don't fault anyone for their skin condition, but for heaven's sake, COVER IT UP!!!! (The cheesy red polyester checker jackets were cut off at the elbow.) But even better, as a young, naive and upcoming ad gal, I felt that our client should be informed of the store's numerous shortcomings. BIG mistake. It was like calling his baby ugly and he did not give a whit that the very products he wanted to feature could not be found in the store he wanted to promote. Old man Minnich, their 'marketing director,' taught me a 'life lesson' I never forgot. Thankfully, Weingarten finally bit the dust back in the early 90's I believe, and Mr. Minnich lost his job. And yes, the slogan was "When you see the red dot, you'll save a lot." It was voiced over by an elderly gentleman whose dentures whistled when he spoke, but they refused to allow me to have it rerecorded because he was one of Minnich's cronies. Pure genius.

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in 1955:

general offices:

600 lockwood dr

personnel offices:

808 prairie av

stores:

808 prairie av

1601 taft av

5100 harrisburg blvd

2001 yale

1420 richmond av

1802 polk av

3600 n main

3114 smith

1118 broadway

1100 quitman

2512 university blvd

4800 washington av

1102 telephone rd

6002 lyons

4100 almeda

4000 bissonnet

10901 market

8826 jensen dr

4431 griggs rd

south shaver and southmore, pasadena

bakery and food plant:

534 lockwood dr

poultry and sea food dept:

4711 navigation blvd

home centers:

4800 washington av

1102 telephone rd

I remember going to a Weingarten's in Gulfgate Shopping City. The was a toy store just down from it.

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I have very vague memories of shopping on a few occasions at the one off of Dunlavy. I do remember loving the stained glass lights. If you are not sure which one I am talking about it is where the Fiesta is now (and the new HEB--way off topic, but what does that stand for?). It became a Safeway and then an Appletree before it was Fiesta. I do remember being exited when we were going to go there, not sure why though. Maybe because it was different and kinda a rare treat. Most of our groceries was either at the small corner grocers (forgot the name, old style type grocer on the corner of Jack and West Alabama across from where the Arcadian Bakery is now. The grocer is now long gone) or the Montrose Kroger's. This Weingarten's must have post dated 1955 as it is not listed.

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(and the new HEB--way off topic, but what does that stand for?)

The initials of Howard E. Butt, the son of the company founder:

http://www.heb.com/s...history/3000002

Most of our groceries was either at the small corner grocers (forgot the name, old style type grocer on the corner of Jack and West Alabama across from where the Arcadian Bakery is now. The grocer is now long gone)

Pasternak's. I miss that place, it was still open when I first moved into the area in the early 80s. Can't remember the business that moved in after they closed, but eventually they went out of business too and the original building was razed.

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Yep that is it. I lived right down the street. It was a florist after that. The florists moved over by Memorial City Mall. I saw them when trying out a burger joint over in the area (forgot the name of both, hehe. I can ask my mother tomorrow for the name of the florists). I miss that little grocers it was a neat place. Also thank you on the name of HEB (and yep it made me giggle).

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When I was a kid growing up off S.Main in Knollwood Village in the mid 50s my mom's favorite grocery store was Weingarten's at the intersection of Stella Link & S.Braseswood. I always liked going with her because there was a toy store behind the grocery store that while mom shopped for groceries I would play with the toys. I also bought a lot of model cars in the toy store.

The other grocery store we had in the area we used when we didn't want to drive all the way over the Weingarten's we'd shop a Ward's grocery store on Buffalo Speedway a block south pf Linkwood Dr.

Also does anyone on here remember Richmond Grocery store on Richmond and I think Loretto Dr.? I remember they were the 1st 24 hour grocery store back in the early 70s.

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When I was a kid growing up off S.Main in Knollwood Village in the mid 50s my mom's favorite grocery store was Weingarten's at the intersection of Stella Link & S.Braseswood. I always liked going with her because there was a toy store behind the grocery store that while mom shopped for groceries I would play with the toys. I also bought a lot of model cars in the toy store.

The other grocery store we had in the area we used when we didn't want to drive all the way over the Weingarten's we'd shop a Ward's grocery store on Buffalo Speedway a block south pf Linkwood Dr.

Also does anyone on here remember Richmond Grocery store on Richmond and I think Loretto Dr.? I remember they were the 1st 24 hour grocery store back in the early 70s.

Freaky Foods!

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Does anyone have a photo of Weingarten's grocery store showing their sign?

Here's a picture from around 1930, this is off of Quitman and Fulton where Fiesta is now, it was remolded sometime after to what it looks like now but I don't know when. Fiesta bought the building like in the mid 70's or early 80's (don't remember) when the original Fiesta off of Fulton was burned down during the Moody Park Riots.

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Here's a picture from around 1930, this is off of Quitman and Fulton where Fiesta is now, it was remolded sometime after to what it looks like now but I don't know when. Fiesta bought the building like in the mid 70's or early 80's (don't remember) when the original Fiesta off of Fulton was burned down during the Moody Park Riots.

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Here is a later photo of the newer building from the 70's

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I remember going to a Weingarten's in Gulfgate Shopping City. The was a toy store just down from it.

Holy Crap, the one on North main is an Oriley's Auto parts now. The building looks like it's from the 30's or 40s.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3600+n+main,+Houston,+TX&hl=en&ll=29.790789,-95.37294&spn=0.006202,0.006539&sll=29.791103,-95.372656&layer=c&cbp=13,38.13,,0,0&cbll=29.790789,-95.37294&hnear=3600+N+Main+St,+Houston,+Texas+77009&t=h&z=18&vpsrc=0&iwloc=A&panoid=qNXqXmTsq4EET22lyuJvQQ

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Here's the one on Washington Ave. Looks like Oriley's bought this one too some time back, it's some kind of Sushi place now.

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I love that bldg. on Wash. Ave. with the black tiles, that really needs to be preserved. What was originally next to it, looks like another store connected.

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I love that bldg. on Wash. Ave. with the black tiles, that really needs to be preserved. What was originally next to it, looks like another store connected.

The entire building was the Weingartens, according to a friend who delivered soft drinks there 30+ years ago. Ther'es a full size basement underneath the building, as well.

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I grew up in Westbury 1958-1965, and watched the Weingartens next to Westbury Square being built. My mom used to send me to the store to get her a carton of Chesterfield's for $2.00 and they had the two water fountains and the two sets of bathrooms in the front of the store that were the way of the times back then. I'm not sure what it is now. I remember finding several cases of out of date wine in the dumpster behind Weingartens that ended up getting me in a lot of trouble. Had a lot of fun at Westbury Square also. I remember filling up a balloon with dish detergent and sneeking it into the fountain next to Rumpleheimers and breaking it under the water, and seeing it mentioned in the Houston Press the next day.

I better shut up! :)

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I grew up in Westbury 1958-1965, and watched the Weingartens next to Westbury Square being built. My mom used to send me to the store to get her a carton of Chesterfield's for $2.00 and they had the two water fountains and the two sets of bathrooms in the front of the store that were the way of the times back then. I'm not sure what it is now. I remember finding several cases of out of date wine in the dumpster behind Weingartens that ended up getting me in a lot of trouble. Had a lot of fun at Westbury Square also. I remember filling up a balloon with dish detergent and sneeking it into the fountain next to Rumpleheimers and breaking it under the water, and seeing it mentioned in the Houston Press the next day.

I better shut up! :)

Cool, do you have any photos you could share px4man?

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While I realize this is an old thread, hopefully someone can help me. Prior to my parents meeting, my father worked at Weingarten's #7. He's in the enclosed photo that promoted some type of sale. The photo was taken in 1945, but I believe the store was older than that. My question is does anyone know where Weingarten's No. 7 was located. I'd be very happy to find out where he actually worked.

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Oh, wow...that is such a cool picture of an old Weingarten's.I know that a member has previously posted addresses for no'd Wirngartens, from an old directory. I'll hunt for you. Welcome to HAIF Snigley, and thanks for sharing your photo!

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Snigley,

See Post number 9, sevfiv's on this thread, gives a 1955 listing of Weingarten location's. If it hasn't been torn down, maybe it's one of those. I'd plug in those addresses to search on GoogleEarth for the actual bldg.But it's a time-consuming process.

The building does look very old, one of the first in growing phase (my guess) probably a "closer to downtown" street, probably near produce row, First Ward.

I still know there is a list somewhere, from a directory. Maybe from when we talked about the East End Weingarten's. I'll look there now.

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Thanks for the help guys!. Since I've no idea where this building was, looking at the list only gave me a guess. I've also no idea whether or not the building is still standing. I've spent hours trying to research this, but so far I've come up dry.

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Could try working it backwards with a process of elimination.

Store No. 14

1100 Quitman St.

demolished

Completed: 1938

Demolished: c. 1970

Architect: Joseph Finger

Store No. 16

4820 Washington Ave.

altered

Current name: Washington Plaza

Completed: 1941

Architect: Joseph Finger

Store No. 21

1102 Telephone Road

altered

Current name: Houston Independent School District Rudy C. Vara Center for Technology

Completed: 1947

http://www.houstonde...weingarten.html

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Snigly, I've checked the online directories to 1926, thru Houston Library digital library, no help. article oh Handbook of Texas Online hints it was built shortly after 1926, after store no. 6 was built. . but probably long before 1938 when he had 12 stores. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fwe15 Have more sources to check out, tomorrow morning!

Yes Kylejack, that could help! Thanks, such a good site. I have books to consult, as well.

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the bob bailey collection has a few neat older ones (with the weingarten name shown, on buildings and maybe signs):

http://www.cah.utexas.edu/db/dmr/dmr_resul...ed&folder=8

Snigley, have u seen the photos in this collection? See first and third ones...right style bldg., caption says Pasadena location, did ur grandparents live anywhere near there? that could help pinpoint, also the question would be : How many stores were built in that style in that time period, after 1926. The librarians at Pasadena Main Library location, by Foley's, might be able to help verify if it was store 7. They have a great set of archives and old phone books, even if u verify the new store. If it was the Pasadena one, it may have been torn down for the "new and larger" one, heard the Weingartens on Lawndale had that happen. Just an idea. I am only familiar with the store in Pasadena S.Shaver & Southmore as the new design, 1950's. The older one is nicer, IMO.

PS just looked on GoogleEarth w. timeline feature... which reveals that there was no structure at THAT Pasadena location in 1944, but sometime between 1944 and 1953 there was a rectangular bldg. (stand alone) built at S. Shaver and Southmore. Could have had a first location in the older part of Pasadena, first, before these dates.

All speculation, of course. The design still makes me think it's pre 1940's...I'd like to know what year the style dates to.

HAIFers?????

The naming/ signing on the actual building inlay/ facing makes me think...older, like those 4 - plex apartments w/ ladies names inlaid in them.

And of course, THE CARS IN THE PHOTO...what year make and models? this will help pinpoint the year, more than likely the grand opening, Bob Bailey took many commercial, promotional photos.

I just read a Facebook page for previous employees that mentions the South Shaver & Southmore store as #33, another calls it #75, also on eperson calls the Telephone Rd. store as #1. Who knows for sure? we need proof! haha.

I now do believe that Bob Bailey photo would have been a first Pasadena grocery store location located closer to old town Pasadena, there is a structure between Chartres & S. Walter that could have possibly been the location for the first Weingartens BB photo, before Hwy 225 was built, it faces what would have been the major road, very old structure.

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my '57 phone book says Weingarten's No. 7 was at 5100 Harrisburg.

I believe this is the same building shown in the photo.

That building is still extant and, if memory serves, it won some kind of preservation award in the last 10 years.

It was an HEB until the new Gulfgate store opened and is currently an Autozone.

Edit: HCAD says 1948...but we know they aren't always right.

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