Saddleman 2 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Montrose1100 3710 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Good, I love the new look the Galeria skyline is getting... its nice to have a mix. Glad to see another condo developement go up. However, I wish it would still be 42 stories instead of the cutback. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 252 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) This Turnberry design would be much more to my liking. It has a kind of Nautical (flowing lines) appeal with nice color, which is of course attributed to MORE GLASS. I went to there website but it was running very slow. I looked a little but didn't see any info on the Houston project. Edited February 20, 2007 by Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Hizzy! 18 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 That's more like the color scheme I thought they might go with (still might, we'll see). Other than that, the design is pretty much what you should expect from Turnberry. Some slight modifications but that's it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Houston19514 4611 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I love the Turnberry Beach house in Miami. Those are the type of designs that will make me take a midrise before a highrise anyday, but they stuck with their "signature" style this time for Houston.Where did you find that image and description? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 252 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 the design is pretty much what you should expect from Turnberry. Some slight modifications but that's it.Granted, but I still think the design could flow a little, instead of the standard cubism blocks tapering the building. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Hizzy! 18 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Oh, there's definitely room for improvement, but it's not hideous IMO. Just pretty straight-forward. Nothing earth-shaking. Just typical Turnberry.I was, however, hoping for a more varied color-scheme, I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 252 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Oh, there's definitely room for improvement, but it's not hideous IMO. Just pretty straight-forward. Nothing earth-shaking. Just typical Turnberry.I was, however, hoping for a more varied color-scheme, I guess.I guess so. I just hope for a little more color at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmancuso 61 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 AH yes, more tombstones and urinals!yay! lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Highway6 379 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) Oh, there's definitely room for improvement, but it's not hideous IMO. Just pretty straight-forward. Nothing earth-shaking. Just typical Turnberry.I was, however, hoping for a more varied color-scheme, I guess.Guys.. that white model doesn't appear to be a finished product. It doesn't have any materials on the actual model... just white for solid and gray for transparency...I think its only meant to represent the form, so y'all can stop worrying about a white tombstone/urinal etc. going up.If the gray were rendered green and showing refelctions, it would look very similar to the model shown in the 'more glass' render of post #203 Edited February 20, 2007 by Highway6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marc 9 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Guys.. that white model doesn't appear to be a finished product. It doesn't have any materials on the actual model... just white for solid and gray for transparency...I think its only meant to represent the form, so y'all can stop worrying about a white tombstone/urinal etc. going up.If the gray were rendered green and showing refelctions, it would look very similar to the model shown in the 'more glass' render of post #203i hope, i hope, i hope it will have some color other than white and tan. I also hope, with the new technologies and materials, it could have a more translucent appearance. Whatever the case, i am glad UT is becoming more dense looking with mid-rises. Does anyone have any idea how hot the market is for urban residences in UT? I mean, i hear a lot about DT and MT, but am not for sure about the numbers when it comes to potential buyers for those UT highrises. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Hizzy! 18 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I think its only meant to represent the form, so y'all can stop worrying about a white tombstone/urinal etc. going up.Okay, but I'm gonna hold you to this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pumapayam 133 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Where did you find that image and description?No one answered this question. bump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstonfella 85 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I think it will be beautiful complimenting Transco. Uptown has about 5 highrise projects on the drawing boards not including the Cosmopolitan already under construction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WesternGulf 19 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Where did you find that image and description?Robert M. Swedroe is the achitect. Check the website. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Highway6 379 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) Robert M. Swedroe is the achitect. Check the website.Thanks.Where did you find that.... I spent 20 minutes yesterday trying to google for the architect to no avail.I may have been wrong about the 'not gonna be white' thing.... this architect has done dozens of mid-rise and high-rise projects.. and almost every one has white cladding. Edited February 21, 2007 by Highway6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ricco67 446 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Robert M. Swedroe is the achitect. Check the website.You wouldn't happen to have a link would you? or is it a state secret? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WesternGulf 19 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I just thought it was a cinch to find if you google the name.http://www.swedroe.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pumapayam 133 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I just thought it was a cinch to find if you google the name.http://www.swedroe.com/Gee, took you long enough! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bachanon 442 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Guys.. that white model doesn't appear to be a finished product. It doesn't have any materials on the actual model... just white for solid and gray for transparency...I think its only meant to represent the form, so y'all can stop worrying about a white tombstone/urinal etc. going up.If the gray were rendered green and showing refelctions, it would look very similar to the model shown in the 'more glass' render of post #203i was thinking the same thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pumapayam 133 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Mystery about the tiny building revealed, from my February Uptown Update newsletter.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL UPDATETurnberry Associates, one of America Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProHouston 19 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Mystery about the tiny building revealed, from my February Uptown Update newsletter.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL UPDATETurnberry Associates, one of America Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KinkaidAlum 2818 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 If it is being billed as a 38 story, that includes the parking. Thats not 38 stories of residencs on top of x levels of parking.You can't just compare stories between two completely differnent types of buildings.Even with Condo type ceiling hts of 11-12' ceilings, a residential highrise will have a smaller Floor to floor than an office building.Office buildings ususally have over 13'-14' floor to floor.For comparison sake.. the Cosmpolitan has 12' FtoF on it's residential levels, is 24 floors total including 6 parking levels.. it will top out at 315'.. IF we add another 14 floors, that would put us at 480' for 38 floors..Highway6 was almost SPOT ON with his estimate for 480'. According to the architects, the building will top out at 485'6" to the highest point of the arch on the top of the tower. That would make it the 4th tallest in Uptown, behind the Williams, San Felipe, and Marathon Oil. The next largest are the Four Oak Twins at 444'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Highway6 379 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Highway6 was almost SPOT ON with his estimate for 480'. According to the architects, the building will top out at 485'6" to the highest point of the arch on the top of the tower.....will be roughly half the size.Williams 901'Turnberry 485'653.8%Can I get a Boo-yahh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ricco67 446 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Williams 901'Turnberry 485'653.8%Can I get a Boo-yahh?Yeah, boo-yahh, whatever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheNiche 945 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Williams 901'Turnberry 485'653.8%Can I get a Boo-yahh?Well it may be a little bit less than what I'd thrown out there, but I'm still concerned that Williams Tower won't completely dominate everything as seen from the ground or highway. Nothing immediately around it is that tall, and this one will be right up next to it, making it seem a bit less imposing, IMO. That'll be especially true from northbound 610 in the Bellaire area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HtownWxBoy 195 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Well it may be a little bit less than what I'd thrown out there, but I'm still concerned that Williams Tower won't completely dominate everything as seen from the ground or highway. Nothing immediately around it is that tall, and this one will be right up next to it, making it seem a bit less imposing, IMO. That'll be especially true from northbound 610 in the Bellaire area.My thought exactly. I love that view! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Highway6 379 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 That'll be especially true from northbound 610 in the Bellaire area.Well, at least it's not due south of Williams. Tis southwest, so Yes, there will be an additional mass competing for your attention, but it shouldn't block any of Williams from view. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HtownWxBoy 195 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Well, at least it's not due south of Williams. Tis southwest, so Yes, there will be an additional mass competing for your attention, but it shouldn't block any of Williams from view.Oh yea... that's right. For some reason I was thinking it was directly south of the Williams Tower.. but that's where the Water Wall is. It won't really block the Williams Tower... I think it will actually look nice sitting right next to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProHouston 19 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Well it may be a little bit less than what I'd thrown out there, but I'm still concerned that Williams Tower won't completely dominate everything as seen from the ground or highway. Nothing immediately around it is that tall, and this one will be right up next to it, making it seem a bit less imposing, IMO. That'll be especially true from northbound 610 in the Bellaire area.Shoot, I'm for as many tall buildings as we can get. I don't care where they are. The more tall buildings we have the more urban we become. Critical mass, that's what we're looking for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheNiche 945 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Shoot, I'm for as many tall buildings as we can get. I don't care where they are. The more tall buildings we have the more urban we become. Critical mass, that's what we're looking for.That's not always accurate. I recall from another thread on this forum that if you average the tallest ten buildings in every city in the world, Houston has the 10th tallest-building average. Does that make us the 10th most 'urban' city in the world?Truth be told, most of the very tall buildings are more ego-driven than financially-driven. What you want is density. Gulfton is currently the densest part of town in terms of population, and how many tall buildings does it have? Downtown is the densest part of Houston in terms of built space, but many would argue that even it is not 'urban' because most pedestrians are in the tunnels and street activity is sparse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KinkaidAlum 2818 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 This building will also be built on the western most part of the block, away from the waterwall. The areas facing the waterwall across the street will include what appears to be a green space/lawn/pool area as well as a very "green" looking parking garage with roofdeck amenities. The garage only appears to be 4-6 stories tall.So, in the end, it will be one block west-southwest of the Williams tower and the buidling itself will be on the western most part of that block from what I can gather. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstonfella 85 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I don't know about how tall we are, but Houston's big, getting bigger and Turnberry is a great addition to Uptown. So, One Park Tower is rising downtown, 2727 Kirby in River Oaks is going to be gorgeous, Mosaic is almost ready to top out its first tower, Endeavor on Clear Lake is probably topped out by now . . . yeah, this sleeping giant is awake and ready to rumble. Woo hoo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buildingunbuildingrebuilding 0 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Shoot, I'm for as many tall buildings as we can get. I don't care where they are. The more tall buildings we have the more urban we become. Critical mass, that's what we're looking for.Personally I'd like to see them pop up in the middle of Afton Oaks. Make them wish they had rail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HtownWxBoy 195 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 This building will also be built on the western most part of the block, away from the waterwall. The areas facing the waterwall across the street will include what appears to be a green space/lawn/pool area as well as a very "green" looking parking garage with roofdeck amenities. The garage only appears to be 4-6 stories tall.So, in the end, it will be one block west-southwest of the Williams tower and the buidling itself will be on the western most part of that block from what I can gather.Correct...Courtesy of WesternGulf from SkyscraperPage Forum... who said it's courtesy of Shasta. http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1...rnberry1pp8.jpgLooks like the building itself will actually be situated in a north/south way as opposed to east/west, like say The Mark is. I wasn't expecting that... but maybe they want a lot of people to have a Downtown view. It kind of reminds me of the Mark... shape-wise... still a much nicer building, though. This definitely won't block the amazing view of the Williams Tower when coming up 610 from the south. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheNiche 945 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 This definitely won't block the amazing view of the Williams Tower when coming up 610 from the south.Yeah, but like Highway6 suggested, I just don't like that it'll be another giant mass competing for attention on the skyline. I mean, the Williams Tower by itself is rather unremarkable except for its sheer size and utter dominance of that area. I don't want it just to be described as the building with the rotating light, or as the tall one, but in essence as the building. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dbigtex56 1209 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I mean, the Williams Tower by itself is rather unremarkable except for its sheer size and utter dominance of that area.It's tempting to mock the above statement; but, in the words of the old song, "She's more to be pitied than censured." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Montrose1100 3710 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 T he Niche afraid of change? Dear friend, have you forgotten this is Houston? The Williams Tower should always remain as the tallest in that area of town... Its the Light house. I don't think the Turnberry Towers will make too much of an impact, although their light tone will contradict the dark blues of the William's Tower. The rendering looks amazing, look how green and lush the bottom is, I hope it turns out like that! I like the criss cross grid on the crown, I hope the lighting scheme is cool, maybe like 1200 Post Oak.I'm glad the Uptown area will have a taller & denser skyline. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheNiche 945 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 (edited) T he Niche afraid of change? Dear friend, have you forgotten this is Houston? Nah, I'm just being petty. I'll always prefer the view I have now, but more than that, I prefer the unimpeded dynamism and as-yet-unknown potentials to be discovered many years and decades into Houston's future. Edited March 9, 2007 by TheNiche Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProHouston 19 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Correct...Courtesy of WesternGulf from SkyscraperPage Forum... who said it's courtesy of Shasta. http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1...rnberry1pp8.jpgLooks like the building itself will actually be situated in a north/south way as opposed to east/west, like say The Mark is. I wasn't expecting that... but maybe they want a lot of people to have a Downtown view. It kind of reminds me of the Mark... shape-wise... still a much nicer building, though. This definitely won't block the amazing view of the Williams Tower when coming up 610 from the south.This pic only appears to show the building at 33 floors. What's the deal? I want my 5 other floors! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Houston19514 4611 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 This pic only appears to show the building at 33 floors. What's the deal? I want my 5 other floors!You're right! Very interesting. I imagine The Niche convinced them to shorten it so that it won't interfere with Williams Tower's domination of the Uptown skyline. ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
what 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 You're right! Very interesting. I imagine The Niche convinced them to shorten it so that it won't interfere with Williams Tower's domination of the Uptown skyline. ;-)what a great project this is ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fernz 364 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Correct...Courtesy of WesternGulf from SkyscraperPage Forum... who said it's courtesy of Shasta. http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1...rnberry1pp8.jpgLooks like the building itself will actually be situated in a north/south way as opposed to east/west, like say The Mark is. I wasn't expecting that... but maybe they want a lot of people to have a Downtown view. It kind of reminds me of the Mark... shape-wise... still a much nicer building, though. This definitely won't block the amazing view of the Williams Tower when coming up 610 from the south.What a disapointing design! Why can't Houston get something interesting like the project recently announced in Atlanta? see attached... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Highway6 379 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Correct...Courtesy of WesternGulf from SkyscraperPage Forum... who said it's courtesy of Shasta. http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1...rnberry1pp8.jpgI think the garage and waterfall compliment the waterwall very nicely... and that they pushed it towards the back away from both Williams and the waterwall seems like a smart decision too.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fernz 364 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I think the garage and waterfall compliment the waterwall very nicely... and that they pushed it towards the back away from both Williams and the waterwall seems like a smart decision too..I completely agree with you. But the design of the tower itself is so uninspiring... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 252 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Another uninspired biege highrise. How exciting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nmainguy 13 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I mean, the Williams Tower by itself is rather unremarkable except for its sheer size and utter dominance of that area.[Phillip Johnson attempts to kick some sense into niche's head from the grave...but to no avail] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
musicman 192 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 What a disapointing design! Why can't Houston get something interesting like the project recently announced in Atlanta? see attached...IMO the atlanta project is nothing special either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Highway6 379 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 IMO the atlanta project is nothing special either.... but their website is kinda pimp.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pumapayam 133 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Personally I'd like to see them pop up in the middle of Afton Oaks. Make them wish they had rail.I second that! > This pic only appears to show the building at 33 floors. What's the deal? I want my 5 other floors!True, they shaft us!maybe it goes 5 floors below the ground too! I think the garage and waterfall compliment the waterwall very nicely... and that they pushed it towards the back away from both Williams and the waterwall seems like a smart decision too..They did that I am sure so that you have a view of the Water Wall from the Condo without looking straight down.I completely agree with you. But the design of the tower itself is so uninspiring...Generic color and I think we have 4 or 5 (taller too) condos in uptown that already look like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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