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I'm quit upset witht he plans to rennovate our loved Astrodome. They want to turn it into a hotel.

I say no. Let's do one of the cooler things. Let's turn the Astrodome intoa nightclub. The Astrodisco would be it's name. WOuld be the world's largest nightclub. WOuld feature raves and concerts as well. It have lights,lasers and a giant discoball hanging from the roof of the Astrodome.

I say that or on indoor amusement park. Give us something since Astroworld's gone.

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I'm quit upset witht he plans to rennovate our loved Astrodome. They want to turn it into a hotel.

I say no. Let's do one of the cooler things. Let's turn the Astrodome intoa nightclub. The Astrodisco would be it's name. WOuld be the world's largest nightclub. WOuld feature raves and concerts as well. It have lights,lasers and a giant discoball hanging from the roof of the Astrodome.

I say that or on indoor amusement park. Give us something since Astroworld's gone.

I'm speechless.

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I'd rather see it turned into rubble than the hotel thing they're working on. The dome is one of the last uniquely Houston buildings we have left. Surely Dallas is somehow behind the plans currently on the boards.

Dallas heading up plans to save our Astrodome? Doubt it. They've been jealous since before they forgot to close that hole in Texas Stadium.

On topic: That disco thing isn't worth a reply...

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This sounds like a kinda cool, uniquely Houston concept.

I reminds me a little of Houston when I first visited/moved there in the late 80's/early 90's. The market was depressed enough where people could get many good places so cheap that they could do whatever they wanted - as long as they could pay "rent".

I am glad that Houston's economy is strong again, but the creativity that the slump encouraged cannot be easily duplicated today.

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Plastic I think this idea makes a lot of fiscal sense. The place would be pulling in at least $400,000 a year. :blink:

:lol::lol::lol:

Never fear Plastic, I am sure there will be a "themed" bar in the hotel, plenty big enough. I was a little upset, that they didn't go with my idea and turn it into the world's largest strip club. I thought that was a winner for sure.

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I'm quit upset witht he plans to rennovate our loved Astrodome. They want to turn it into a hotel.

I say no. Let's do one of the cooler things. Let's turn the Astrodome intoa nightclub. The Astrodisco would be it's name. WOuld be the world's largest nightclub. WOuld feature raves and concerts as well. It have lights,lasers and a giant discoball hanging from the roof of the Astrodome.

I say that or on indoor amusement park. Give us something since Astroworld's gone.

Have you lost your mind? It's gotta mean something when a DJ is saying that a nightclub wouldn't work...

Have you ever heard of Transit? It's the name of the biggest rave ever in Houston history. The year was 2000. Over 20,000 people packed the AstroArena complex, and over 60 of the most hottest djs from around the world spun that night. People were reported to have driven from Florida and San Fransisco to check this party out. Radio stations mainstream and underground were broadcasting the mixes live across the country, and some on the internet were able to broadcast worldwide. It was supposed to be the rave that would have put Houston and electronic music on the mainstream clubbing/party map permantly....

I didn't get to go. I ended up working at a pizza parlor a little late to close up. The next night, I hear about the rave from all my friends, and they were telling me of all the celebrities they saw show up. It seemed Houston was abuzz about going out again...until two nights later when it was found out that News2Houston did a special 3-night special investigative report on raves and just so happened to have hidden cameras all over Transit. Come to find out, so did 20/20, CBS, MTV, and many others. They were cracking down on partiers under 18 going in without any prejudice, and the people who were jacking up the rave scene by doing drugs. In this case, they were doing drugs in the AstroArena, with an HPD presence, with an underage presense, in a facility funded by taxpayers.

As a result of the media, raves started to get raided and were automatically associated with drugs, though there are MANY people out there that are into electronic music but are anti-drug (like myself). Then after that, more big name djs had no place to spin but nightclubs, many of whom were not willing to shell out that kind of cash for a big name. As the buzz for the party scene died down, the only places left to check out the electronic music scene mainstream seemed to be Richmond Strip, and the Beat on 104KRBE Saturday nights. We all know where they stand today.

The electronic music scene needs HUGE help in Houston, but the AstroDisco probably wouldn't work. Reliant Park DOES have potential to have some kind of nightlife around or in it, but the hotel is a sure bet, whereas nightclubs in Houston now seem to have a lifespan of -3 years :unsure:

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I know what you are hoping for. A shopping mall with lots and lots of upscale shopping!!!! Those Dallisites will be sooo jealous :lol:

Yeah, upscale shopping that would rival "New York, London, Paris, Ibiza, Detroit, S.F., Berlin, and so on". Oh I forgot Dallas. :P

This thread is actually becoming worse than Plastic's original post, if that's possible

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Yeah, upscale shopping that would rival "New York, London, Paris, Ibiza, Detroit, S.F., Berlin, and so on". Oh I forgot Dallas. :P

This thread is actually becoming worse than Plastic's original post, if that's possible

I beg your pardon, but I am a big fan of Techno/Electronica/House/Disco/-whatever its going by these days. As discussed in another thread about the Houston Club scene, we all simply wished for a bigger fan base and the awesome festivals/parades that come along with them.

I'm sure if they built it into a giant Beatles Museum (or another interest of yours), you would go Goo-Goo-ga-ga.

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I beg your pardon, but I am a big fan of Techno/Electronica/House/Disco/-whatever its going by these days. As discussed in another thread about the Houston Club scene, we all simply wished for a bigger fan base and the awesome festivals/parades that come along with them.

I'm sure if they built it into a giant Beatles Museum (or another interest of yours), you would go Goo-Goo-ga-ga.

Montrose, the feasability of your idea (and Plastics) is rediculous at best, regardless of what music your into. Think about it for a few minutes. How do you propose to finance this "club"? When contemplating this, think about how it would coincide with Texans games, the Rodeo, conventions, the electric bill, the lease, which is payable to the county, the HUGE, HUGE cleanup bill (remember the clients you'll be dealing with) etc, etc.

In short, the idea is insane and no financier on the planet would touch it. As Coog says, PRINT IT!

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Montrose, the feasability of your idea (and Plastics) is rediculous at best, regardless of what music your into. Think about it for a few minutes. How do you propose to finance this "club"? When contemplating this, think about how it would coincide with Texans games, the Rodeo, conventions, the electric bill, the lease, which is payable to the county, the HUGE, HUGE cleanup bill (remember the clients you'll be dealing with) etc, etc.

In short, the idea is insane and no financier on the planet would touch it. As Coog says, PRINT IT!

Well there goes the $400,000 generated by the CLUB idea. Gary, how dare you squash Plastic's dream with rational thought and cost expenditures. Bad Gary, no cookie ! :P:lol:

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It wouldn't just be a club but a concert theater. We tear off the back half of the seating at The Astrodome and make it a place for stages.

The floor and back half would serve for seating. It would be a stadium sized theater.

As for the club, we'd have to have some sort of removable walls. It wouldn't be one club but several. A 2 story maze of clubs,lunges, and bars. The multiclub concept like City Streets. Have Techno-Trance in one room,Hip Hop in one, Industrial-Goth in one,metal in one,Punk , in another. There's be 2 larger rooms for concerts and main dance areas.

I say a nightclub,amusement park, or giant indoor rainforest like at MoodyGardens. There was onces a plan to make it a giant movie theater. If you thought Imax was something.......... Houston lacksvenues. We have an open space we nee to use it for events. If we ever do get the Olympics in Houston we'd need it.Maybe a giant entertainment complex. Nightclubs,resteraunts,movie theater, arcade, casino,and a hotel. Some of the seats could be left for concerts and events.

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I think Montrose1100 and Plastic's hearts are in the right place. House/trance/progressive/drum&bass/ALL forms of electronica music NEED a boost in Houston in the baddest way. And our nightlife needs much more energy than it currently has. We were on the right track in the late 90s, but as a whole, the energy level in the night sector has been decreasing. Super Bowl's Main Event on Main Street is what I expected from the downtown clubbing scene, and what I've seen there since I've been back has been anything but. Until Main Street downtown CONSISTANTLY looks and feels as hot as it did in January/February 2004, we could consider ourselves where we would want to be on the clubbing map.

I think the Astrodome's current plans are exactly what Reliant needs. Plastic, I disagree with your idea about the Astrodome, but I like your creativity. If anything, I would like to hear more ideas about what would bring Main Street downtown and/or Richmond Strip into an atmosphere the world would want to travel to Houston for.

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Houston's golden age for clubbing was in The 80s and early 90s. Everything since that has been crap. They one that came and tore our image down was The Roxy. Everything after that was downhill.

Downtown was never really ment to be the place for clubing. This whole Downtown rennovation thing has got that started. Houston actually ranked first after New York in nightlife one time. The age of DOwntown is over. People are tired of it, the scene is changing and the clubs are all starting to play Hip Hop. Downtown won't be much in 5 years if this trend continues.

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It wouldn't just be a club but a concert theater. We tear off the back half of the seating at The Astrodome and make it a place for stages.

The floor and back half would serve for seating. It would be a stadium sized theater.

As for the club, we'd have to have some sort of removable walls. It wouldn't be one club but several. A 2 story maze of clubs,lunges, and bars. The multiclub concept like City Streets. Have Techno-Trance in one room,Hip Hop in one, Industrial-Goth in one,metal in one,Punk , in another. There's be 2 larger rooms for concerts and main dance areas.

I say a nightclub,amusement park, or giant indoor rainforest like at MoodyGardens. There was onces a plan to make it a giant movie theater. If you thought Imax was something.......... Houston lacksvenues. We have an open space we nee to use it for events. If we ever do get the Olympics in Houston we'd need it.Maybe a giant entertainment complex. Nightclubs,resteraunts,movie theater, arcade, casino,and a hotel. Some of the seats could be left for concerts and events.

Oh yeah...City Streets was great. Nothing like using a stupid failed suburban nightclub concept to prove your half-assed idea is viable.

If the market will support electronic music, someone will make money on it. If it won't, no one will. Why is that so hard to figure out?

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Houston's golden age for clubbing was in The 80s and early 90s. Everything since that has been crap. They one that came and tore our image down was The Roxy. Everything after that was downhill.

Downtown was never really ment to be the place for clubing. This whole Downtown rennovation thing has got that started. Houston actually ranked first after New York in nightlife one time. The age of DOwntown is over. People are tired of it, the scene is changing and the clubs are all starting to play Hip Hop. Downtown won't be much in 5 years if this trend continues.

This post proves to me that you were either 1) Not old enough to go to clubs in the 80's and 90's. OR 2) You may have been old enough to go but have never actually been to any of the places you have mentioned . I will bet dollars to doughnuts, you have never stepped foot inside of Roxy back in the 90's. You have probably never even heard of The Yucatan Liquor Stand, and it was THE number ONE seller of liquor in Texas as well as The United States at one time, and it didn't close until the mid 90's. You've never been to Red Square, you've never been to NRG's or 6400, you've never been to Emo's or Club Some. Admit it ! :angry2:

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Aside from the fact that this thread is obsurd, I don't understand why most of you think we need this surge in electronica to fuel a night club scene. Houston has quietly become a mecca for blues and rockabilly clubs, which by the way have been doing quite well for years. Not to mention the big Rock venues opening almost yearly, all of which are doing quite well.

Don't mean to sound harsh, but these club ideas seem to be extremely narrow.

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This post proves to me that you were either 1) Not old enough to go to clubs in the 80's and 90's. OR 2) You may have been old enough to go but have never actually been to any of the places you have mentioned . I will bet dollars to doughnuts, you have never stepped foot inside of Roxy back in the 90's. You have probably never even heard of The Yucatan Liquor Stand, and it was THE number ONE seller of liquor in Texas as well as The United States at one time, and it didn't close until the mid 90's. You've never been to Red Square, you've never been to NRG's or 6400, you've never been to Emo's or Club Some. Admit it ! :angry2:

SO I guess I've never heard of Bayou Mamas, The Ocean Club,Metronome, Detour , ETC, Shelter, Zazz, Bahama Mama's, Blue Star,Kaboom, or Blue Planet. Yes Some was alright, I liked it better when it became Hyperia. It and Numbers were one of the few true Houston clubs we have left. Hmm I wonder why I haven't heard of 6400 the place that was playing underground and Industrial on the loate 80s Richmind Strip. Or NRG, the place where Extacy became popular. Yes I've been to the Roxy, and it sucks as well as all the clubs Downtown. It may be nicer and hyped but the attitude ,dress code, and music sucks.

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SO I guess I've never heard of Bayou Mamas, The Ocean Club,Metronome, Detour , ETC, Shelter, Zazz, Bahama Mama's, Blue Star,Kaboom, or Blue Planet. Yes Some was alright, I liked it better when it became Hyperia. It and Numbers were one of the few true Houston clubs we have left. Hmm I wonder why I haven't heard of 6400 the place that was playing underground and Industrial on the loate 80s Richmind Strip. Or NRG, the place where Extacy became popular. Yes I've been to the Roxy, and it sucks as well as all the clubs Downtown. It may be nicer and hyped but the attitude ,dress code, and music sucks.

I will give you The Ocean Club, and Kaboom, I only give you kaboom because I used to work for the McWilliams brothers during the Shark Dance and Kaboom heyday, they also owned D2R, and Metronome. I am surprised you didn't mention Ectasy Club on Richmond @ 610 where "X" was free to the public in a big fishbowl as you entered the club.

But, Blue Planet, and Bayou Mama's, you should be flogged just for uttering those names out of your mouth. :blink::lol:

There are just as many clubs playing Electronica now as there were back then. So, IMO the heyday is not over, you can still go get your fix.

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I will give you The Ocean Club, and Kaboom, I only give you kaboom because I used to work for the McWilliams brothers during the Shark Dance and Kaboom heyday, they also owned D2R, and Metronome. I am surprised you didn't mention Ectasy Club on Richmond @ 610 where "X" was free to the public in a big fishbowl as you entered the club.

But, Blue Planet, and Bayou Mama's, you should be flogged just for uttering those names out of your mouth. :blink::lol:

OK Blue Planet sucked but Bayou Mams was the place to be.

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This whole hotel dome thing is a joke anyway. So, almost any idea including a disco makes better business sense at this point in time in my opinion instead of competing with GRB. It appears that the downtown groups are pushing all the retailers to Houston Pavilions so that it can be kind of a package with G.R.B. to better market the city and from what I can tell it is working. I heard in passing that Hewlette Packard just decided to have its convention here, and that there are some other major groups looking at Houston harder now. This would be bad timing for this hotel thing to occur right when Downtown looks positioned to have a real big up swing that is long past due.

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Did i hear the Yucatan Liquor Stand mentioned? OMG, that brings back memories. Many drunken bruhahas there. Whats in its place now? I know they tore it down years ago.

I believe there are Townhomes there now. No Kidding. After Yucatan, it was turned into a Copeland's restaurant, where I tended bar and waited tables for a bit, then it turned into some Bar-B-Q joint, then it was leveled and turned into Townhomes, right next to a Nudie bar, that is "high livin'"!

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...I don't understand why most of you think we need this surge in electronica to fuel a night club scene. Houston has quietly become a mecca for blues and rockabilly clubs, which by the way have been doing quite well for years. Not to mention the big Rock venues opening almost yearly, all of which are doing quite well.

Don't mean to sound harsh, but these club ideas seem to be extremely narrow.

It'd be nice if we had an area in Houston (like Main Street) that had great electronica venues, hip-hop clubs, rock, country, and jazz all within walking distance. The rock venues around town seem to be too spread out to me for it to be considered a "scene". When I think of rock venues, I think of places like Numbers, Verizon Wireless, and Warehouse Live. Only one of the three has another popular hangout beside it. I wanna see some bands perform live on Main Street every weekend night in front of a rock club.

I'm an electronica dj, hip-hop dj, and occasionally play in different styles of bands (keyboard). I wanna see it all. And strong electronica music scenes seem to fuel that energy in the crowd more than any other style of music. What fustrates me is the fact that I think Houston has so much talent within itself in electronica, but there isn't enough of a presence yet to fuel that energy in our own backyard. Hip-hop has talent located in Houston, but the hip-hop club scene is not as innovative here as they should be. Rock bands are getting the respect they deserve locally, but why not have two great rock venue/clubs ON Main Street Square (maybe even a Sam's Boat on Main Street or Pavillions)? Jazz music is COMPLETELY underrated as a whole, and some of Houston's jazz clubs deserve national mention because of the talent they showcase.

Electronic music has the fans in Houston, but doesn't have an atmosphere to go with it. Why should we have to travel to Miami or Ibiza to party hard? This is Texas. NOBODY'S looking to party hardy like us Texans, believe me...

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