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Amen, agreed. Does anyone know what their timetable is for the Commuter Rail?

I know that TxDOT is in the planning stages of reworking 290. This would add manged lanes where Hempstead Rd is and then make 290 10 lanes by taking the HOV lane out of the middle. The managed lanes has space reserved for the rail lines. So not sure if they would wait until after this is done or not. I think I read where the Hempstead managed lanes would not start until I-10 was done. So that is like early 2009. Also the intermodal Metro station is not done until 2010 and that would have to be done before otherwise there would be no place for it to go. Everywhere I look they never have a date so that is a concern but Metro looks to be designing the Phase 2 expansion with the assumption that this will be in place. (For instance they have the Uptown line going the the Northwest Mall so that it can connect to the commuter rail line.)

One thing that I am trying to figure out (and to tie this back to the topic) is the Town Center is on the wrong side of 290 for a rail stop. The rail and the future Managed lanes runs down the other side of 290.

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Yes, it's funny like that. They've got the Metro Town Center on the North side of 290, yet it appears the rail lines will run along the

South side of 290. Even moreso, the Caldwell Watson Town Center for Towne Lake will be on the South side of 290. I imagine they're working together on this?

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I must say this thread got quite interesting. But on the topic - has anyone heard if Metro might ever consider a direct route from this new Cypress park and ride to the Med Center without having to change buses? I know there are lots of commuters coming from our side of town to the Med Center and it can be a hassle to switch.

And just to throw in my two cents, I and many of my neighbors commute to the city from Waller every day. There's nothing wrong with that - it's just a lifestyle choice. In my case it's hard to have horses in the big city... But I do welcome any improvements that will help ease terrible 290 :)

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I must say this thread got quite interesting. But on the topic - has anyone heard if Metro might ever consider a direct route from this new Cypress park and ride to the Med Center without having to change buses? I know there are lots of commuters coming from our side of town to the Med Center and it can be a hassle to switch.

And just to throw in my two cents, I and many of my neighbors commute to the city from Waller every day. There's nothing wrong with that - it's just a lifestyle choice. In my case it's hard to have horses in the big city... But I do welcome any improvements that will help ease terrible 290 :)

That is the ONLY reason we won't move out that way. Hubby works for MD Anderson. You know, you'd think a little more consideration would be given by this city to the top employer in the state, the Texas Medical Center. There are only THREE directly linking park-n-rides and that is a bit of a crime, IMHO. He hates taking the train and then a bus, and he is certainly not the only one!

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Billions of dollars spent on freeways that I don't remember voting for (+ billion dollar overages that no one seems to mind)...plus development policies that hinder anything that's not a typical strip center with a larger parking lot....there are other ways, too, but those are the most relevant to houston transportation and visual cityscape.

Still, this does not define how everything is subsidized? Maybe you need to rephrase it and/or use a dictionary.

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There is absolutely nothign special here! None of these have special planning, special design, any true, unique features. All they have are new/different facades. These are no different than any other strip center in teh city.

Why did they make the Cinemark so small? It has only 12 theaters. For the population there, I though there would be more.

The Cinemark was designed to be further expanded in the future when there is the demand for it. I beleive it can go up to either 16 or 18.

The same goes for the new Target across te street. The building was designed so that a true grocery section can be added and the store could turn into a Super Target. These types of designs allow the stores to get to market quicker with less demand necessary upfront, with room for expansion, very smart moves.

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I think the only reason I like Houston is because I have acquired a taste for it that requires one to grow up in this city. If I was 25 years old and seeing Houston for the first time after having previously lived in San Diego or Portland, I'd think Houston looked like a puzzle where the pieces are completely out of order.

Have you ever been to these cities, lived in these cities, or any other major city? I doubt it! Zoning or no zoning, there is no perfect city. There are forums just like this one in those cities and others complaining about the same exact things - traffic, densities, old vs. new, etc.

San Diego is really a small city, surrounded by lots of small towns/developments. Its traffic and/or planning is no better. Same with Portland to a degree. When those guys do come to town however, one thing that they will see that really matters is the low cost of living and an abundance of well paying jobs!

Apparently, Niche, the Olympics committee didn't seem too keen on your "market dynamics" when they said "no" to Houston as a host city.

Even George W. Bush said "there ought to be limits to freedom". Surely he was referring to urban land development.

This is one hell of an presumption from a statement. How in the world can you logically infer any reference to "urban land development" from this one line, especially when taken so out of context as it is! This currently the most ludicrous statement ever seen on these boards and I am disappointed nobody has yet pointed this out!

I think the Chronicle ran a point-counterpoint story about Houston sprawl, where one writer expressed MrFootball's sentiments and the other saw things similarly to the TheNiche.

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And I didn't realize TheNiche was a libertarian.

I'm not. I went out with a rabid Libertarian for a short while last year. I can't compare to her and her friends. They were talking about completely eliminating the military in favor of mercenary services, complete privatization of road building without any allowable use of eminent domain, and the complete elimination of antitrust laws. It was fun and all, but the unyeilding extremists within their party are what prevents them from being a viable contender to the other two. And IMO we need a viable contender.

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Sorry to get this back on topic, but I just read on the Metro web site that they are currently negotiating with the old HP/Compaq owners to use that as a temporary park n ride until the new one is completed in May/August. The HP building is next to where they are building the park n ride. They show it as January 2007. That would be nice since the NW park n ride is pain to get to from Cypress and is overcrowded.

http://www.ridemetro.org/pdf/FY2007BudgetBook.pdf

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One thing that this line will show is that they need to either extend the HOV/Diamond lane on 290 out to Skinner or Barker Cypress or fix the mess at 290 and Hwy6/1960. I am not hopeful, since they will probably wait for the Hempstead Tollway instead of doing anything with the HOV since it will be removed when the tollway is completed.

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Are they planning on doing anything 'nice' with the proposed retail that's going in there? I've heard they contracted with NewQuest to develop that property. Knowing the shoddiness and haphazard-look of other NewQuest properties sure doesn't instill much confidence in me that this will be all that remarkable. I was hoping for something like a Town Center/Lifestyle development and not another one of those sprawling fusterclucks that NewQuest has become synonomous for.

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Are they planning on doing anything 'nice' with the proposed retail that's going in there? I've heard they contracted with NewQuest to develop that property. Knowing the shoddiness and haphazard-look of other NewQuest properties sure doesn't instill much confidence in me that this will be all that remarkable. I was hoping for something like a Town Center/Lifestyle development and not another one of those sprawling fusterclucks that NewQuest has become synonomous for.

Here are the details from the Metro web site : http://metrosolutions.org/go/doc/1068/116856/

Looks like a mix of retail and housing. I guess this will become the Cypress "urban core"

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The Metro website says the HOV lane will be extended to FM 2920. It's already been TxDoT approved.

They are talking about the Hempstead tollway. It will not get started until at least 2010. They need to either extend the HOV as diamond lanes to Barker-Cypress or fix the 290/1960 interchange. The latter is the real cause of the problem.

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Any information on when this will open? I use the temp lot now and look forward to parking my car in the covered garage. I just hope they add more buses since pretty much every bus currently is at capacity. Right now any new riders that the lot may attract is going to find full buses.

One other thing, before this opened the slowdown at 290/1960 would back up to before Telge. Over the last few months I have noticed that that backup has shrunk quite a lot. Has any other changes been made to that section of 290 besides the Cypress P&R that would account for this? I guess taking 200+ cars off that section an hour would have a good effect.

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Any information on when this will open? I use the temp lot now and look forward to parking my car in the covered garage. I just hope they add more buses since pretty much every bus currently is at capacity. Right now any new riders that the lot may attract is going to find full buses.

One other thing, before this opened the slowdown at 290/1960 would back up to before Telge. Over the last few months I have noticed that that backup has shrunk quite a lot. Has any other changes been made to that section of 290 besides the Cypress P&R that would account for this? I guess taking 200+ cars off that section an hour would have a good effect.

Schools out. That takes a lot of cars off the road.

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...look forward to parking my car in the covered garage. I just hope they add more buses since pretty much every bus currently is at capacity.

This project is innovative and I think it will be a big success. It's well thought out and there's a need for it.

I like to read comments like yours from users of our superb Metro/HOV transit system.

The system is constantly being improved and expanded. The Cypress Station is a good example. And the Katy Tollway is coming soon, for buses and cars, and it will be two-way.

It seems like people tend to forget about the Metro/HOV system, I guess because it's not a train.

I can't wait for more light rail, and also heavy rail, but in the meantime we do have a MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM!

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Schools out. That takes a lot of cars off the road.

I drive this section too. I also noticed improved flow after the P&R opened and before school let out. With school out, 290 flows quite nicely at 6 am.

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Schools out. That takes a lot of cars off the road.

I started noticing the difference before school let out (around April). Also, last summer I don't think there was much of a change during the summer. Friday's was the only time you saw a change (this is because a alot of people get every other Friday off).

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Saw the Opening Sept 4 sign being put up on Sat morning. Although a weird thing that Metro is doing, is that you have to have a Q-Card with $3.50 to park for free. Otherwise it will be $4.50. Not sure why people would want to park there if they were not taking a bus. And I wonder how this will effect the retail once they are built. Who would want to go there and have to pay to park. Anyway, I think it is dumb to require a Q-card to park (especially at the start). There are going to be a lot of people show up and not be happy that they have to pay to park if they don't have a Q-Card yet. Here is the Metro link

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They have begun moving dirt on the retail/residential section of this development. The drawings I have seen on the Newquest website look pretty promising, with a good faux tenant showing (a steakhouse, apparel retail, coffe shop) but so did the Vintage drawings...

Does anyone have any information on possible or even attached tenants for this development???

I think a good bookstore would be great for this development. The closest thing out here is the Barnes and Noble in Copperfield. Borders could steal some business if they opened here....

Thanks in advance

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Here's a recent article from the Chronicle on the subject...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nb/cyf...ws/5539073.html

Interesting read....they are really pushing the fact that the apartments will be "upscale"...we'll see.

Also on another thread somone mentioned that a Pappa's restaurant was coming in here, and I was having trouble seeing it...but maybe they are going to be the "free standing" place.

I ride here everyday and there is definately a lot of traffic, the right tenents will do very well. I think this place has the opportunity to be something special...I didn't think Newquest had it in them!!! I am cautiously optomistic...

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That was me about the Pappa's restuarant. I called the corporate offices and the person I talked to said they were currently no plans for future locations. Not sure if this person is in the position to say or not say but that was what they said so maybe not. Seeing that the are looking for a restuarant serving all meals, maybe a Cracker Barrell? I wouldn't be surprised! And would prefer them over the IHOP coming on Cypress-Rosehill

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A cracker barrel would be awesome at that location. It would serve the early birds who want a good casual breakfast before running off to work and the same can be said afterwards when people get home.

Not to mention it would attract quite a bit traffic from travelers hoping to find a place to rest and get something to eat.

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That was me about the Pappa's restuarant. I called the corporate offices and the person I talked to said they were currently no plans for future locations. Not sure if this person is in the position to say or not say but that was what they said so maybe not. Seeing that the are looking for a restuarant serving all meals, maybe a Cracker Barrell? I wouldn't be surprised! And would prefer them over the IHOP coming on Cypress-Rosehill

Well, the Pappasitos in Hobby airport serves all meals, and actually their breakfast tacos and especially their breakfast burritos are some of the best that I have ever had...

In my experience, the best thing about Cracker Barrel is their orange juice...

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Are they going to stay in the current location? The new site doesn't look like they could build a larger building.

No, they're building the new location (next door) which has two or three times the seating room. There's an artist rendering above the door inside the current location. Go check it out and get yourself some great fajitas while you're there. I love that place.

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I don't understand Alicia's thinking. Why didn't they get a pad across the freeway? Not only do they need more space but the desparately need more parking but where they are building will not give them any of that...anyone know if there are plans to expand the parking?

Also, the owner told us last time we were there that they are keeping the current location as well and converting it to more of a continental dining restaurant. Guess I should have asked him about the parking too!

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