METRORail University Line

[RedScare]

Again, please attempt to stop attacking me and stay on topic. I know it's hard but try.

 

Pointing out that you are making unsupported claims is neither an attack nor disrespectful. But, I understand your need to deflect the fact that you refuse to support your claims. I am simply not letting it die. Sorry if it makes you a bit uncomfortable.

[august948]

I'm actually in Warwick bay at the moment. I don't make this up as cloud's post indicates

[Slick Vik]

Cloud's post indicates Dallas. Is that where you are now? In your bahama shorts? No shame in that (well, not much anyway).

I was talking about Cloud's post in reference to the fact that its well known that houston funds were shifted to Dallas. I am not in dallas I am in Warwick long bay, bermuda, about to head to the beach.

[livincinco]

I was talking about Cloud's post in reference to the fact that its well known that houston funds were shifted to Dallas. I am not in dallas I am in Warwick long bay, bermuda, about to head to the beach.

Please go back to spending Daddy's money and cease your trolling.

[Slick Vik]

Please go back to spending Daddy's money and cease your trolling.

This is my money. I guess wanting a good public transportation system is trolling, but that says more about you than me.

[livincinco]

Wanting a good transportation system is not trolling. Posting about being on the beach in Bermuda in a forum related to a good tranportation system is trolling and is generally quite revealing from a psychological standpoint. You seem to have a frequent need to brag about your material wealth while proclaiming how you stand up for poor people. It's really quite interesting.

[Hugh Stone]

I think it's safe to assume that everyone on the internet is lying. 

 

Edited July 20, 2013 by Hugh Stone

[shasta]

Congressman Poe is trying to make a case to secure federal funds so that the University Line can be built. his rationale is that people in his district want it and that the federal funds would just go to another city that is proactive about securing them.

 

He is asking for your voice on Facebook. Please make your opinion heard so he can get an accurate reading of the support for the completion of the University Line.

 

http://www.houstontomorrow.org/livability/story/Rep-Poe-calls-for-action-on-University-Line/?utm_source=Houston+Tomorrow+Growth+News&utm_campaign=d3e45a1388-Houston_Tomorrow_Livability_News_042513&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_02f1bf7b5d-d3e45a1388-7265

[Slick Vik]

Good stuff

[mfastx]

Gained a lot of respect for Poe.  I'm glad he's recognizing that the benefits of the line would far outwieigh the short term negatives. 

 

Culberson is very short sighted.  I'm quite shocked honestly that as someone who is concerned about finances, he wants the line to be built in a lower ridership area.  Which makes no sense because why would someone who says that we don't have the money to build it want to build something that would require a higher subsidy per rider? 

 

Anyway, all of this seems in vein because I doubt the University line is being built anytime within the next 10-15 years, unfortunately.

[Naviguessor]

A New Hero!

Glad to see a Republican Advocate in DC.  Frankly...very surprised. 

Even my mind is opening.

[samagon]

Gained a lot of respect for Poe.  I'm glad he's recognizing that the benefits of the line would far outwieigh the short term negatives. 

 

Culberson is very short sighted.  I'm quite shocked honestly that as someone who is concerned about finances, he wants the line to be built in a lower ridership area.  Which makes no sense because why would someone who says that we don't have the money to build it want to build something that would require a higher subsidy per rider? 

 

Anyway, all of this seems in vein because I doubt the University line is being built anytime within the next 10-15 years, unfortunately.

 

I had the opportunity to meet Congressman Poe (at the time, Judge), and I held a great deal of respect for him then, I wish there were more elected officials with the same cut of jib as he.

 

Good guy.

[bobruss]

On the other hand, freeways and freeway contractors don't go on strike and foul up everybody's commute.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/01/us/california-bart-strike

 

Yeah, but a bad driver in an eighteen wheeler with a load of pipe can sure put a halt to your commute

also.

 

I don't think Metro has ever shut down its buses because of a strike.

[Howard Huge]

You cannot really kill something that wasn't on the agenda. That being said, Culberson had his hand in killing the U Line several years ago. And, he will attempt to kill it in the future. He is quite the douchebag.

Can we get this asshole out of office already? Hes right up there with Tom Delay on my Houston politician sh-t list. This crap with them holding up Houston rail for their own personal gain has been going on far too long, enough is enough.

This is how I feel every time I hear about him having a hand in holding back rail in Houston:

Edit: weird, I cant see the youtube I posted??

Edited August 6, 2013 by Howard Huge

[musicman]

what an original topic

[nativehoustonion]

I live in his district. We need him out of there!

[Howard Huge]

Wow is all I can say

[cloud713]

well since it looks like thanks to Culberson this line will cross over 59 to Westpark at or before Shepherd. if thats the case i was thinking they could build another bridge, of some architecturally striking design, with matching color changing LEDs like the arch bridges, but the train bridge could light up/colors change when the train crosses it, at the same speed as the train or something, kind of a visual stimulation like the water fountains at Main St Square, but to go with the theme of the color changing arch bridges (whenever they finally get them lit up again.. i thought they were supposed to be working on that) over 59.

[nativehoustonion]

What a good idea.  We can avoid him for now on.  He does not care about our city.  He is getting pay backs for highway builders.  He said Afton Oaks did not want the University Line down Richmond.  Now they are building mid rises and high rises off Westheimer that all the traffic well cut across t Richmond and cause lot of traffic in Afton Oaks.  Be careful what you ask for.  They should now ask Culberson not to build skyscrapers in around there area.  Too late, so many traffic will cut across through Afton Oaks.  Culberson could ask for a bridge across Westheimer over the train tracks!   

[cloud713]

Culberson could ask for a bridge across Westheimer over the train tracks!

That would be fantastic! Get Culberson to actually do something productive for the district.. Though I'd prefer an underpass like they had in mind for the east end line.. Trenching that whole track through that part of town would be most optimal though.

[Slick Vik]

Culberson is the devil.

[Ross]

Culberson is the devil.

 

No more so than any other politician. He is representing the wishes of his constituents on this matter, especially those who live in Afton Oaks that would have access to their neighborhood destroyed by building the typical poorly designed METRO light rail down Richmond.

 

[mollusk]

With the currently proposed routing west down Richmond until Greenway Plaza, then over the freeway to Westpark, access to Afton Oaks is not affected one tittle or jot.  For crying out loud, Afton Oaks is west of Greenway, west of Weslayan, and west of the UP railroad tracks.  John Culberson just has a visceral hatred of anything that's not a freeway.

[nativehoustonion]

Slick Vik  is right, he is a devil.  He made transit money blocked for our city and Dallas, Phoenix and other cities obtained it.  I'm sure him and Ms. Sheila Jackson Lee get along fine.    

[Naviguessor]

^^Huh? Do you really think that?

[Slick Vik]

No more so than any other politician. He is representing the wishes of his constituents on this matter, especially those who live in Afton Oaks that would have access to their neighborhood destroyed by building the typical poorly designed METRO light rail down Richmond.

Destroyed? Give me a break.

[Ross]

Destroyed? Give me a break.

 

How else would you describe a situation where you cannot turn onto the street that leads to your house, but have to go blocks out of the way.

[mfastx]

How else would you describe a situation where you cannot turn onto the street that leads to your house, but have to go blocks out of the way.

A minor inconvenience? Lol

[kylejack]

How else would you describe a situation where you cannot turn onto the street that leads to your house, but have to go blocks out of the way.

 

Blocks out of the way, oh the horrors.

[IronTiger]

Destroyed? Give me a break.

For someone who was calling a politician a "devil" for blocking a light rail line, you sure have a way of downplaying things that aren't on your side.

[Slick Vik]

For someone who was calling a politician a "devil" for blocking a light rail line, you sure have a way of downplaying things that aren't on your side.

Going a couple of blocks out of the wAy is nothing compared to blocking a light rail line.

[illusionescape]

Why doesn't METRO split up the University Line into segments? Instead of trying to get the whole thing built at one time, build the eastern section from Eastwood TC to the Menil Station. This seems to be the uncontroversial segment. Then hopefully by the time it gets built, they should have the western segment routing all sorted. Building the eastern segment first works best anyways since it ties into the existing system.

[nativehoustonion]

The rail plan was to overpass Southwest freeway at Cummings then go down Westpark to avoid the rich people in Afton Oaks.  They got their way.  Just wait till The River District with two high rises, shops, apartments.  And also the 10 and 15 story apartments at Mid Lane.  with Westheimer with 2 lanes in each direction and when the train come.  All those cars will bypass and go through Afton Oaks. There traffic will increase dramatically.  Don't get what you ask for. LOL!     

[livincinco]

The rail plan was to overpass Southwest freeway at Cummings then go down Westpark to avoid the rich people in Afton Oaks.  They got their way.  Just wait till The River District with two high rises, shops, apartments.  And also the 10 and 15 story apartments at Mid Lane.  with Westheimer with 2 lanes in each direction and when the train come.  All those cars will bypass and go through Afton Oaks. There traffic will increase dramatically.  Don't get what you ask for. LOL!     

 

Way to take the high road.  Love the "I didn't get what I wanted, so I hope that your life is miserable as a result" sentiment.

 

 

[IronTiger]

Going a couple of blocks out of the wAy is nothing compared to blocking a light rail line.

Blocking a light rail line is nothing compared to this rabid anti-Culberson nonsense.

[Slick Vik]

Blocking a light rail line is nothing compared to this rabid anti-Culberson nonsense.

Sneaking wording into legislation at the 11th hour is nonsense.

Why doesn't METRO split up the University Line into segments? Instead of trying to get the whole thing built at one time, build the eastern section from Eastwood TC to the Menil Station. This seems to be the uncontroversial segment. Then hopefully by the time it gets built, they should have the western segment routing all sorted. Building the eastern segment first works best anyways since it ties into the existing system.

The Feds will probably find that unacceptable

[Slick Vik]

The rail plan was to overpass Southwest freeway at Cummings then go down Westpark to avoid the rich people in Afton Oaks. They got their way. Just wait till The River District with two high rises, shops, apartments. And also the 10 and 15 story apartments at Mid Lane. with Westheimer with 2 lanes in each direction and when the train come. All those cars will bypass and go through Afton Oaks. There traffic will increase dramatically. Don't get what you ask for. LOL!

The plan was to go through highland village originally but they protested so afton oaks was the next option and they protested as well

[livincinco]

The plan was to go through highland village originally but they protested so afton oaks was the next option and they protested as well

I'm almost getting a sense that the voters in that district are opposed to light rail running through their neighborhoods. I wonder what their elected representatives should do?

[Slick Vik]

I'm almost getting a sense that the voters in that district are opposed to light rail running through their neighborhoods. I wonder what their elected representatives should do?

 

The rest of the city voted for the line to go through their neighborhoods. What should the elected officials of the city at large do?

[livincinco]

The rest of the city voted for the line to go through their neighborhoods. What should the elected officials of the city at large do?

I'm sure that HCC has some basic US government classes to help you to understand how the different levels of government work. Might be helpful.

[Slick Vik]

I'm sure that HCC has some basic US government classes to help you to understand how the different levels of government work. Might be helpful.

I know very well how the government works. Sneaking in lines in legislation at the 11th hour is immoral.

[kylejack]

The rest of the city voted for the line to go through their neighborhoods. What should the elected officials of the city at large do?

 

No, they voted voted for this. Not to go through any particular neighborhoods like Afton Oaks.

 

 

Westpark

Approximately 6.6 miles westward from the Wheeler Station on Phase I METRORail to the Hillcroft Transit Center,

serving Greenway Plaza, West University, Bellairé, and the Uptown/Galleria area. This segment of line will have

approximately 4 stations.

Note: Final scope, length of rail segments or lines and other details...will be based upon demand and completion of the

project development process, including community input.

Edited February 24, 2014 by kylejack

[IronTiger]

Approximately 6.6 miles westward from the Wheeler Station on Phase I METRORail to the Hillcroft Transit Center,

serving Greenway Plaza, West University, Bellairé, and the Uptown/Galleria area. This segment of line will have

approximately 4 stations.

Why does "Bellaire" have an accent mark? Have I been pronouncing it wrong this whole time (I thought it was pronounced same way as "Fresh Prince of XXXXXX"), or did someone just screw up in editing?

[kylejack]

Why does "Bellaire" have an accent mark? Have I been pronouncing it wrong this whole time (I thought it was pronounced same way as "Fresh Prince of XXXXXX"), or did someone just screw up in editing?

 

I dunno, ask Upper Kirby District http://www.upperkirbydistrict.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=115

[cloud713]

Why doesn't METRO split up the University Line into segments? Instead of trying to get the whole thing built at one time, build the eastern section from Eastwood TC to the Menil Station. This seems to be the uncontroversial segment. Then hopefully by the time it gets built, they should have the western segment routing all sorted. Building the eastern segment first works best anyways since it ties into the existing system.

I have wondered this too.. I believe they would have to resubmit the plan though for federal funding if they split it in half, but it would still probably get the eastern half built before they resolve the Culberson issue/build the western half.. Plus like you said, the eastern half is where all the current rail segments and universities are. I'd run it all the way west to the shepherd station though.. Might as well build it out as much as possible, unless you think they'd have to turn the rail across 59 before a shepherd stop to avoid culbersons district.

[nativehoustonion]

That is so old it has no merit.  Richmond has potholes, flooding so we should just let it sit there.  More voters in Ted Poe's district for  rail then against.  They can build rail to  Shepard then have a tollway right through Culberson's district. LOL!     

[cloud713]

I dunno, ask Upper Kirby District http://www.upperkirbydistrict.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=115

There are a few typos in that report so I assume the Bellaire accent is wrong too.. And go figure that was written by an Afton Oaks resident... Heh. I guess I wouldn't mind a 4 stop Westpark only route.. It would be quite a bit quicker getting from uptown to the main st line, but it would miss a few destinations like the menil and st Thomas..

[JJxvi]

Westpark dead ends into River Oaks Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge/Ram/whatever at Kirby. It does not exist east of Kirby, it does not exist at Shepherd/Greenbriar, presumably the voters did not vote to build a line that has it eastern terminus at Westpark and Kirby.

Edited February 24, 2014 by JJxvi

[cloud713]

There is still the "Westpark" ROW that extends along the power lines east up to Montrose.. But between Montrose and 527/Wheeler station it gets tricky...

[Slick Vik]

I have wondered this too.. I believe they would have to resubmit the plan though for federal funding if they split it in half, but it would still probably get the eastern half built before they resolve the Culberson issue/build the western half.. Plus like you said, the eastern half is where all the current rail segments and universities are. I'd run it all the way west to the shepherd station though.. Might as well build it out as much as possible, unless you think they'd have to turn the rail across 59 before a shepherd stop to avoid culbersons district.

 

I don't think they would get federal funding for that. The feds have cities with well thought out plans that want money, they don't have time for a city bickering within itself. They give money to plans they see fit.