H-Town Man Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I love the giant images of HIP EXCITING YOUNG PEOPLE FOR YOU TO EMULATE. There's nothing quite like the mindlessness of shopping mall culture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 IMG_1067 by Not.Larry.Dierker, on Flickr IMG_1070 by Not.Larry.Dierker, on Flickr IMG_1074 by Not.Larry.Dierker, on Flickr 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 IMG_1298 by Not.Larry.Dierker, on Flickr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Great Shot, Larry. Tells the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So, how exactly are they doing this? From the looks of it, they're going to gut it down to a steel-and-concrete shell and rebuild it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 i guess that i find it really surprising that there is no planned enclosed walkway, as per customers to and from the houston galleria. wouldn't this be most feasible, since it is located directly across the street.That would look cool, but it would also eliminate pedestrian traffic. And we need more of that! Plus the Galleria doesn't own the land that the Hyatts are being built on. I was in the Galleria today and if anyplace needs a walkway it is from Dillard's to Neimans. Speaking of (rambling) why is the Dillard's even still there? That whole place could be redeveloped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Simon doesn't want Dillard's, because they don't feel that Dillard's is high end enough. And, they don't want Hyatt competing with their Westins, under the same roof. It's Pretty Simple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 That would look cool, but it would also eliminate pedestrian traffic. And we need more of that! Plus the Galleria doesn't own the land that the Hyatts are being built on.I was in the Galleria today and if anyplace needs a walkway it is from Dillard's to Neimans. Speaking of (rambling) why is the Dillard's even still there? That whole place could be redeveloped!i concur, regarding the need for more pedestrian traffic upon the immediate galleria vicinity. however, i am all for eliminating any form of pedestrian accidents as well. not to mention, expensive wet shopping bags during inclement weather conditions. please trust me my pal, this hotel shall seem like a very long walk during one of houston's famous thunderstorms. in regards to dillards, i have been hereby stating for quite a number of years, that this particular edifice should be completely torn down and reconstructed elsewhere. nonetheless, a few months ago, i read that this particular diillards, shall indeed be torn down at some point. this shall be in lieu, as per new plan to reconstruct it as part of an anchor for a new galleria 5. not at all certain if this is indeed the truth, but this is what i read. trust me, my fingers are indeed crossed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Simon doesn't want Dillard's, because they don't feel that Dillard's is high end enough. And, they don't want Hyatt competing with their Westins, under the same roof. It's Pretty Simple.I seriously doubt that Simon doesn't want Dillard's as a tenant. It's a major department store that would be a anchor tenant. Also Dillard's and Macy's are about neck and neck as far as their rank in department store class, especially since Macy's purchased Foley's. Also every store in The Galleria is not high end there are plenty of lower end stores in The Galleria. I think the amount of lower end stores in The Galleria will only increase due to the new retail developments coming online like River Oaks District. It has already been stated that some of the higher end retailers are jumping ship for River Oaks District. Dillard's owns that stores location. I hope they sell the land for redevelopment and become the anchor for a new Galleria extension like Monarch stated. Maybe Simon can purchase the property for another Galleria expansion. Simon is going to have to do what it takes to stay competitive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Simon doesn't want Dillard's, because they don't feel that Dillard's is high end enough. And, they don't want Hyatt competing with their Westins, under the same roof. It's Pretty Simple. I seriously doubt that Simon doesn't want Dillard's as a tenant. It's a major department store that would be a anchor tenant. Also Dillard's and Macy's are about neck and neck as far as their rank in department store class, especially since Macy's purchased Foley's. Also every store in The Galleria is not high end there are plenty of lower end stores in The Galleria. I think the amount of lower end stores in The Galleria will only increase due to the new retail developments coming online like River Oaks District. It has already been stated that some of the higher end retailers are jumping ship for River Oaks District.Dillard's owns that stores location. I hope they sell the land for redevelopment and become the anchor for a new Galleria extension like Monarch stated. Maybe Simon can purchase the property for another Galleria expansion. Simon is going to have to do what it takes to stay competitive. All that, Fortune, plus, at the risk of over-burdening the forum with facts, Simon does not own the Westin Hotels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Simon/Galleria wanted Dillard's, "under the roof", then why aren't they? They have been sitting just across the street for Decades. You don't really think that Dillard's is holding out or opposing the idea, do you? It's been a ongoing discussion for a long time. Houston19514, you probably are correct that Simon does not own the Westins...But, I they do own contracts with them and you can bet that there is something in there about not introducing any competing hotels to the property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) If Simon/Galleria wanted Dillard's, "under the roof", then why aren't they? They have been sitting just across the street for Decades. You don't really think that Dillard's is holding out or opposing the idea, do you? It's been a ongoing discussion for a long time. Houston19514, you probably are correct that Simon does not own the Westins...But, I they do own contracts with them and you can bet that there is something in there about not introducing any competing hotels to the property. I have no idea whether Simon wants Dillards "under the roof" (and all indications are, neither do you). But to say they don't want Dillards because they don't feel Dillards is high end enough is patently ridiculous. The Galleria has plenty of stores that are at or below the level of Dillards. Starting with Macy's and going down from there. A mall that has a Payless Shoesource is not going to thumb its nose at Dillards for being insufficiently high-end. Re: the hotels; Perhaps; although I think it's unlikely. But this is all a silly academic discussion anyway. The idea of building a skywalk to connect the new hotels to the Galleria is a horrible idea for myriad other reasons and I doubt that either Simon or the hotel developer would have much interest in spending the money to build it. Edited September 18, 2014 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have no idea whether Simon wants Dillards "under the roof" (and all indications are, neither do you). But to say they don't want Dillards because they don't feel Dillards is high end enough is patently ridiculous. The Galleria has plenty of stores that are at or below the level of Dillards. Starting with Macy's and going down from there. A mall that has a Payless Shoesource is not going to thumb its nose at Dillards for being insufficiently high-end.My point exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) I call BS. theGalleria had 2 Macys.. Dillard's is more high end than Macys.Whoops, missed a whole page worth of discussions.. Lol. Edited September 18, 2014 by cloud713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I hope that this development won't keep Gables from moving foward with their Post Oak tower. Hopefully they will both be built. Today's BisNow mentions a residential tower as part of the Galleria expansion. I'm not sure whose that will be, but they seemed pretty definite it will be built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Today's BisNow mentions a residential tower as part of the Galleria expansion. I'm not sure whose that will be, but they seemed pretty definite it will be built.Simon has been planning a residential tower just south of the new saks fifth avenue location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 And another mall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Outlet Malls in Cypress and Texas City...by Simon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) And another mall...Another mall ? Edited October 24, 2014 by Fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I thought nobody was building malls in the US anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston? Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Where's this mall you speak of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 All in due time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intencity77 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 And another mall...Are you talking about another new addition to the Galleria or a whole new mall all together nearby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 And another mall... Isn't there supposed to be another outlet mall coming to Rosenberg or somewhere down 59 a ways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Yes. Not Simon though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Perhaps the Westside Mall at I-10 and Grand Parkway is finally going to happen?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 No, that's been repurposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The new Simon outlet mall planned on the TI property ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Haven't heard anything about that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 why doesnt Simon develop a mall in downtown? or at least help out with the planned retail district, instead of throwing up outlet malls all across the burbs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Haven't heard anything about that...Since it's not the one planned on the TI land, then were will the one you are talking about be located ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Since it's not the one planned on the TI land, then were will the one you are talking about be located ?Not allowed to say...Edit; yeah that's it. More to come! A lot more... Edited October 28, 2014 by BigFootsSocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) why doesnt Simon develop a mall in downtown? or at least help out with the planned retail district, instead of throwing up outlet malls all across the burbs.The Cypress Outlet is one of their most profitable malls. I believe they bring in ~$900 per square foot monthly. Edited October 28, 2014 by BigFootsSocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 why doesnt Simon develop a mall in downtown? or at least help out with the planned retail district, instead of throwing up outlet malls all across the burbs.Because they're in the business of making money? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston? Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Not allowed to say...Edit; yeah that's it. More to come! A lot more...More to come> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscats35 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 BigFootSocks is it enclosed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Not allowed to say...Edit; yeah that's it. More to come! A lot more... Perhaps he since he can't tell us what it is, he can tell us what it's not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 My guess is an indoor ski-slope! That would be a game changer! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 My guess is an indoor ski-slope! That would be a game changer! NO!! .....No, bad arche!!! BAD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Perhaps he since he can't tell us what it is, he can tell us what it's not?If I had to guess - I'd say Simon at the Astroworld plot. Nearest shopping centers are Meyerland, Pearland and Gulfgate. Plenty of income nearby with the MedCenter. Potential hookup to both NRG Park & MetroRail (would be city's only shopping center connected to Rail). But IIRC half of the site got sold to the county? Who knows ...just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTOWN LIVE Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) My point exactly.Agreed. If Dillard's was smart, they would move...they would get a premium for that premier site. Then use some of the money to build a fresh modern expression of itself nearby. Maybe configure themselves into BLVD Place in a deal with Wulfe & Co. or the Uptown Park redevelopment. They're clearly out of place with that old tired store in the midst of all that extraordinary Galleria development. The Dillard's tract is a waste of land, as that store doesn't fit the location anymore. It's now a relic and BUTT UGLY.I'm not saying they need to get out of town, just away from the Galleria. Something fabulous and iconic could be built there...something Williams Tower-ish. Edited October 31, 2014 by HTOWN LIVE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownproud Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Agreed. If Dillard's was smart, they would move...they would get a premium for that premier site. Then use some of the money to build a fresh modern expression of itself nearby.Maybe configure themselves into BLVD Place in a deal with Wulfe & Co. or the Uptown Park redevelopment. They're clearly out of place with that old tired store in the midst of all that extraordinary Galleria development. The Dillard's tract is a waste of land, as that store doesn't fit the location anymore. It's now a relic and BUTT UGLY.I'm not saying they need to get out of town, just away from the Galleria. Something fabulous and iconic could be built there...something Williams Tower-ish.Agreed. The Dillard's really detracts from the beauty of the Zone D'erotica building. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTOWN LIVE Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Agreed. The Dillard's really detracts from the beauty of the Zone D'erotica building.Lol, yes together they're the pimple on the area's butt. Hopefully the boom will make them disappear soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Simon announced a large mixed-use outlet mall anchored redevelopment of the Texas Instruments site on 59 yesterday. it will include the outlet mall, up to 600K of office, apartments and hotel. /speculation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Have you ever seen how many people cross Post Oak to get from the Galleria to Dillard's on any given weekend?From a business perspective, Dillard's is absolutely not out of place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTOWN LIVE Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Have you ever seen how many people cross Post Oak to get from the Galleria to Dillard's on any given weekend?From a business perspective, Dillard's is absolutely not out of place.Those masses of people are making their way back to their cars...everybody knows Dillard's exists for the sake of extended Galleria parking. They certainly aren't going there to shop.Dillard's is a morgue on good days...but it's parking is great for Galleria overflow. That Dillard's isn't making much money...but they would make some if they took a page from Tootsie's book and moved nearby to a refreshed new location. They should swallow their pride and take the money and run.They definitely need a new `do' and developers could use the space. Everybody wins, especially Houston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Agreed. If Dillard's was smart, they would move...they would get a premium for that premier site. Then use some of the money to build a fresh modern expression of itself nearby.Maybe configure themselves into BLVD Place in a deal with Wulfe & Co. or the Uptown Park redevelopment. They're clearly out of place with that old tired store in the midst of all that extraordinary Galleria development. The Dillard's tract is a waste of land, as that store doesn't fit the location anymore. It's now a relic and BUTT UGLY.I'm not saying they need to get out of town, just away from the Galleria. Something fabulous and iconic could be built there...something Williams Tower-ish.I'll bet Dillards owns that lot (but not the Zone d'erotica) and will gladly sell it for a cool $100 Million, otherwise I'm sure we would have seen a redevelopment there many years ago. Otherwise they aren't leaving. They're not "attached" to the Galleria, but they are essentially a part of that complex and they would be a fool to leave the biggest, best performing mall in this whole region of the US. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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