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to me its not that it is ESPECIALLY unattractive, but compared to the current grand facade which i loved, it definitely falls short...(and honestly anything with changing colored lights feels cheap to me...ambient white or at least one color of lighting looks more sophisticated and upscale in my opinion)

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The only one I really remembered being distinct was the defunct original Galleria III, which tended to have more dated and downscale stores, even in 2008 (the two big tenants were the Sharper Image, and the Fox Sports Grill, both of which disappeared within a few years).

Ah, that's because you're a youngster, Tiger. When III opened, it was the "luxurious" wing. Galleria I & II were nothing special, other than the ice rink and the red velvet carpeted theater. III came along, with the marble decked out Macy's, and set the foundation for the more upscale oriented direction the Galleria turned in the 80s.

Of course, the "luxury" aspect of III went right out the window when Sheer Insanity and Gadzook's opened up in the wing. The sales staff and management sure didn't care much for us long-haired, undesirable types meandering through their precious Marshall Field's in route to Galleria III back then, lol.

On a side note, I kind of find it amazing there are so many people in here calling for the demo of Joske's. The oldest, most historical building out there, and you guys want to drop it. Good Lord, if the bastards at Dillard's would clean up the old girl, I think people would see it in a very different light. That building, at one time, only played second fiddle to San Antonio's HQ, within the Joske's chain. To raze it altogether is about as ridiculous as taking down an amusement park and leaving it to become an overgrown pasture.

Thank goodness the developers restoring the Cheek & Neal Coffee Building in East End didn't have the same viewpoint.

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I have been saying forever that ALL the Galleria (including Dillards) would benefit from a good power-washing! 

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Are there any plans to update or clean up the exterior of the towers connected to the Galleria? They look really dated and bad. maybe something like the down town Mickey Leland Federal building redo.

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That would be great, but we all know how expensive/over budget the Mickey Leland Building ended up being..

That's because it was a government contract as opposed to being for the private sector. They' should've just torn down Leland and rebuilt. It would've been faster and cheaper in the long run.

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The Dillard's is far better looking than those ugly stucco Dillard's built in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

 

For those advocating the demolition of Dillard's Uptown while crying about 509-517 Louisiana and how they should have been kept....shame on you.

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"We aren't building something for tomorrow or the next quarter. The economy will ebb and flow, but at the end of the day, we are investing in the future."

 

THIS IS HOW ALL DEVELOPERS IN HOUSTON SHOULD THINK! Things may be slow now but as we have seen time and time again they will pick up at a much stronger pace.

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OH heck yea!!!

 

I feel as if The Galleria area and Downtown are now competing for development, which is a good thing! find a way to connect a rail line between the two areas.

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Obviously the flag is still being determined, but I would assume Ritz & Residences is of the 3.  This seems to fit their profile and being connected to the Saks/Galleria Luxury wing makes sense.  It's amazing how much this W. Alabama/Sage intersection as changed over the past 3 years.

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11 minutes ago, enriquewx91 said:

"We aren't building something for tomorrow or the next quarter. The economy will ebb and flow, but at the end of the day, we are investing in the future."

 

THIS IS HOW ALL DEVELOPERS IN HOUSTON SHOULD THINK! Things may be slow now but as we have seen time and time again they will pick up at a much stronger pace.

It is nice if you can get ahead of the game and be ready when the economy bounces back

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The proportions may be off, but the rendering show it to be taller than the distant Four Leaf Towers. For 30 floors an approx. 450ft height is really impressive.

 

Not crazy about the design (2000 & late), but it's decent and would add a fresh style. 

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i love my area more and more every day :) i have lived on mccue near westheimer for almost 19 years and worked on post oak at westheimer (old compass bank bldg)/now sage and near westheimer for almost 18 years... i am so happy my area continues to change for the better! 

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I  like the building, but don't be disillusioned. The bottom rendering is truly deceptive in its scale compared to the exixting buildings in the galleria. They make it look more like a 40 story building instead of a 30 story tower. The building to its right is at least 22 stories tall and it looks in perspective to come to about the top of the shorter first set back. I wish they would try and do a better job in rendering the project so when it comes up much shorter in scale than the rendering we aren't disappointed.

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From the article

 

Construction on the new Galleria hotel-condo project is expected to begin next year and take two years to complete. Contis said the company is in negotiations with several hotel brands.

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56 minutes ago, Discography 114 said:

Maybe it's 30 floors of actual hotel sitting on top of a 14 floor garage/lobby/whatever. That would explain the why it looks so big in the rendering. The building looks like its about 44 floors total to me.

That would be a plus in my book. Wouldn't this make it the 2nd tallest in the Galleria area?

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^^^ judging carefully from the scope / scale of this particular edifice...

looks like a W to me....

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20 minutes ago, houstontexasjack said:

Would Starwood want to put a "W" so close to their Westin brand?  I thought the two overlapped somewhat in amenities.

^^^ cities like chicago, new york, boston, and san francisco, harbor starwood flags all around each other and peacefully coexist.  it's high time that houston joins them....

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Oh no!  What if the owners of one of the Cosmopolitan can't see the Walmart on 59?!!  

 

I smell a lawsuit!

 

Seriosly though, they do need to upgrade those Westin Hotels' exteriors. 

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I like it, but is there a secret height restriction of 30 stories in the Galliera area?

 

I'm perplexed by this statement. He said it's the last piece of the puzzle but it will "continue to densify?" Obviously we know it will densify with this addition, so he must be speaking of development after this project, right?

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"This tower is the last piece of the puzzle," Contis said. "The property will continue to densify, as there is a lot of demand for luxury condos and hotels."

 

Also, I could count about 40 floors when I zoomed in so I don't think we should hold our breathe on this design. They could probably keep it, but if they're going to cut 10-20 floors, I kind of doubt it. Plus, the planned groundbreaking is almost two years away which is way too much time for them not to change their minds.

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Maybe the old galleria building has a secret tower that will grow out of it when it is time to densify the property more

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58 minutes ago, lockmat said:

I like it, but is there a secret height restriction of 30 stories in the Galliera area?

 

I'm perplexed by this statement. He said it's the last piece of the puzzle but it will "continue to densify?" Obviously we know it will densify with this addition, so he must be speaking of development after this project, right?

 

Also, I could count about 40 floors when I zoomed in so I don't think we should hold our breathe on this design. They could probably keep it, but if they're going to cut 10-20 floors, I kind of doubt it. Plus, the planned groundbreaking is almost two years away which is way too much time for them not to change their minds.

 

^^^ i am under the impression that DAVID CONTIS (CEO SIMON PROPERTIES) got caught up in his own spin machine.  surely, we are all cognizant of the very fact that at some point soon... NEIMAN MARCUS is going to have to totally renovate / expand their very antiquated store as well.   it would become a disaster if they just sit back and allow for their chief competitor SAKS FIFTH AVENUE to open a state of the art new shopping showplace... and they do not respond in kind.  and please do not even allow for me to start on that horrifying old DILLARDS.... it has to go and fast....

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The tower looks great and hopefully it comes to fruition soon! As for the continued densification of the Galleria, I could see a development on the parking lot north of Neiman Marcus to the east of the Jewel Box building as a tower. It could have a parking garage on the bottom levels to make up for lost parking and then house something on top of it. It would make a nice main entrance to the building with the jewel box in the middle, the two office towers in front, and a tower with retail on the left.

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This morning Simon Property Group released renderings of a planned residential highrise in the Galleria, shown here at the corner of W. Alabama St. and Sage Rd. in what’s left over of the land previously occupied by the mall’s second Macy’s. The tower is slated for the same spot previously colored purple for “future retail/office residences” on one of the developer’s Galleria redo maps back in 2014. (That map didn’t mention a highrise specifically, but previous info on the redevelopment plans floated the idea.) Simon says it plans to break ground on the tower by the end of 2017, with a 2019 or 2020 opening in mind.

The rendered view above looks northeast over the Berachah Church across W. Alabama at the glassy highrise, which may hold somewhere between 75 and 100 residential units atop 220 hotel rooms (with separate amenities areas for permanent and temporary residents). The design shows 2 pool decks; the nearby Westin Galleria’s existing pool can be spotted on the right, past an existing parking garage.

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The Bistro in Saks gets the Montrose1100 stamp of approval. Which coincidentally the Galleria Peli Peli gets their's removed. How does an upscale restaurant run out of champagne? 

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Montrose:

 

agreed.  I was there a week or two ago.  Very nice.  There is also a bar downstairs near the men's department,. Didn't check it out but, it looks like a nice spot to sit and "nourish" whilst the Significant Other continues to hunt.

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1 minute ago, UtterlyUrban said:

Montrose:

 

agreed.  I was there a week or two ago.  Very nice.  There is also a bar downstairs near the men's department,. Didn't check it out but, it looks like a nice spot to sit and "nourish" whilst the Significant Other continues to hunt.

Yes the bar under the staircase. At first glance I thought how disappointing considering the previous location had quite a swanky set up. And on top of that, the departments of all the luxury brands made it seem like just an extension of the mall. Might have to visit it sober to see if I'm just bitchy or if memory serves it so distastefully.

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5 minutes ago, Montrose1100 said:

Yes the bar under the staircase. At first glance I thought how disappointing considering the previous location had quite a swanky set up. And on top of that, the departments of all the luxury brands made it seem like just an extension of the mall. Might have to visit it sober to see if I'm just bitchy or if memory serves it so distastefully.

Never go shopping sober.. Too stressful.

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I notice that the cruddy store that was located at the westheimer facing entrance next to cheesecake factory closed and now there are some major renovations going on...if you look at this photo below, it looks exactly like the same location:

 

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