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So far work progresses on my football history report for Aldine.

A few more tidbits... if for nothing else than to bump this thread to the top:

Most yards by an individual in a game: 303 by Doug Womack vs Deer Park in the 1989 Area playoff.

Fewest first downs by an opponent: 2 vs Smiley in 1980

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So far work progresses on my football history report for Aldine.

A few more tidbits... if for nothing else than to bump this thread to the top:

Most yards by an individual in a game: 303 by Doug Womack vs Deer Park in the 1989 Area playoff.

Fewest first downs by an opponent: 2 vs Smiley in 1980

Nice! Saw the Deer Park game (had no idea Doug's yardage was the most by an individual) That was also payback to DP for the previous year. I am very interested in history stats (most whatever). I believe the most combined points for an individual game was Aldine vs Forest Brook in '87. Aldine won 65-53. Aldine had over 700 yards rushing and Forest Brook had over 500 passing. That was listed in the Texas state records for awhile. I don't remember how many combined first downs they had. A few records I know.

I remember Don Burrisk (?) had over 1700 yards in 10 games in the 60's (? I think). There are tons of stuff I would like to know. I saw a lot of games but a bunch of that stuff is getting fuzzy. And then there is so much stuff I never knew anything about. Great work!

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Nice! Saw the Deer Park game (had no idea Doug's yardage was the most by an individual) That was also payback to DP for the previous year. I am very interested in history stats (most whatever). I believe the most combined points for an individual game was Aldine vs Forest Brook in '87. Aldine won 65-53. Aldine had over 700 yards rushing and Forest Brook had over 500 passing. That was listed in the Texas state records for awhile. I don't remember how many combined first downs they had. A few records I know.

I remember Don Burrisk (?) had over 1700 yards in 10 games in the 60's (? I think). There are tons of stuff I would like to know. I saw a lot of games but a bunch of that stuff is getting fuzzy. And then there is so much stuff I never knew anything about. Great work!

That 1987 Aldine/Forest Brook game held the record for most combined points for about a decade. The Chronicle loved talking about it and bringing it up whenever teams approached it. It finally fell sometime in the mid 1990s. Don't have that info as it wasn't Aldine who broke it so I didn't bother to write it down but it's very easily found on the Chronicle's archives.

The two teams combined for 46 first downs (25 by FB and 21 by Aldine). Neiother of those are even close to any kind of record. And you wouldn't expect them to be as in order to score 118 points in 48 minutes you need lots of big, quick long distance plays rather than slow, grinding plays to get first downs.

The teams combined for 1,273 total yards (another state record since broken). Aldine tallied 683 (615 rushing) and Forest Brook gained 590 (485 passing). The 683 yards are the most Aldine has ever gotten in a game that I've found as is the 615 rushing.

The 65 points scored ranks fourth on the all-time Mustang list (third at the time of occurance). 69 is the most the team has ever scored - against Nimitz in 1990. The 118 points ar the most points for both teams in an Aldine game and 53 points given up is obviously the most the team has ever given up in a win.

QB Lionell Crawford scored 5 TDs to tie the school record. J.D. Rogers scored five in a game against Cedar Bayou in 1942 and Patrick Randle scored five against Spring Woods in 1999. Crawford threw for one more to give him a hand in six scoring plays. Rogers threw for two in his game.

RB Calvin Wilson ran for 244 yards, but while close in 1987, that wasn't a school record.

Don Burrisk rushed for 1,717 yards in 10 games in 1969 on a team that finished 5-5. The school record is today held by Deandre Lewis (now with the Seawhawks) with 1,921 in 1996. However, Lewis accomplished his yardage in 15 games. Burrisk's total now ranks third. No one has come close to Burrisk's 171 yards per game average. Nor has anyone ever duplicated his number of 200 yard games. Burrisk rushed for 200 yards once in 1968 and four more times in 1969.

I believe Burrisk made all state in 1969, but I haven't found anything to confirm that. A story in 1971 alludes to Burrisk being named all state when it talks about another great Aldine back, Bill Hudson. The story says Hudson could be the Ponies' next Burrisk and be Aldine's next all state candidate. The way it was worded leads me to believe Burrisk made all state in 1969.

Burrisk went on to play at University of Texas and played in the 1972 Cotton Bowl against Penn State where he had 7 carries for 43 yards and 3 catches for 45.

Although his teams saw little success, when you talk about great Aldine players, you most definitely have to mention Don Burrisk.

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That's a lot of great information. I owe the Aldine football teams a big debt for all the enjoyment they have provided over the years. Lots of excitement, some disappointments but all in all who could ask for more? The state championship was the frosting on the cake. The most bitter and disappointed I was in all those years was the '83 quarterfinals. 13-10 Yates (we was robbed). The '96 quarterfinal win felt so good I was almost ashamed of myself for enjoying it so much.

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That's a lot of great information. I owe the Aldine football teams a big debt for all the enjoyment they have provided over the years. Lots of excitement, some disappointments but all in all who could ask for more? The state championship was the frosting on the cake. The most bitter and disappointed I was in all those years was the '83 quarterfinals. 13-10 Yates (we was robbed). The '96 quarterfinal win felt so good I was almost ashamed of myself for enjoying it so much.

LOL! Funny you should mention that 1996 Yates game. I was just looking at the story from that game right now on the Chronicle's archives. Total domination on both sides of the ball. Defense limits a powerful Yates team to 35 total yards. That's it.

Didn't go to that game. Unfortunately I went the next week to the Westlake game. Must have been a great one.

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Must have been a great one.

It was almost perfect. Yates (like so many of the other schools) had signs saying the dome was their second home. I remember reading in the Chronicle that, if that was true, Aldine should be charged with home invasion.

The Yates game did provide some consolation for the loss to Westlake. (for me anyway)

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Wow, that map has to be from the early 1920s as it denotes Hwys 19 and 3.

Mt Houston is about where I always expected it to be... along or near the Eastex Freeway. Sorta looks like its in the general area of MacArthur High School. Maybe a little south, but not much. But it also appears out of the Aldine ISD zone, which would be those railorad tracks.

The original name of North Forest ISD was East and Mount Houston.

But now that map opens a whole new mystery... what's District No. 1? If it's a school district, that's not the future North Forest school district, at least not all of it.

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The fact that it still shows Camp Logan (Memorial Park) makes me think this is from the 19-teens or 19-twenties.

That sounds about right.

From Wiki:

SH 19 was one of the original 26 Texas state highways proposed in 1917. The original proposal was for it to run from the Texas/Oklahoma border north of Paris to Houston. By 1922 it had been extended south, with a terminus in Freeport. By 1933, SH 19 was pared back significantly, with the section north of Alba transferred to SH 24 and SH 154. By 1939, the section south of Palestine had been removed, but was extended north back over SH 154 to Sulphur Springs. In 1960, it was extended northward to its original starting point of Paris and again to the south to Huntsville, replacing SH 45.

Texas State Highway 3, or SH 3, runs from Interstate 45 in Houston near William P. Hobby Airport to State Highway 146, 9.9 miles (15.9 km) northwest of Galveston. For most of its length, SH 3 parallels I-45 and runs alongside the former Galveston, Houston and Henderson rail lines.

SH 3 was one of the original twenty six state highways proposed in 1917, overlayed on top of the Southern National Highway. From 1919, the routing mostly followed present day United States Highway 90 from Orange to Houston and San Antonio through to Del Rio. The road at this time also had numerous alternate routes simultaneously marked as SH 3, along with occasionally signed SH 3A routes (although most of those routes were given their own numbers by the 1930s).

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i been a lurker for about a year but now that i'm here glen forests estates is no longer is here harris county flood control is making a huge basin south of resthaven cemertary. thank you for all the history. :rolleyes:

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i been a lurker for about a year but now that i'm here glen forests estates is no longer is here harris county flood control is making a huge basin south of resthaven cemertary. thank you for all the history. :rolleyes:

Interesting. i didn't know that. Thanks for sharing. By all means, don't just be a lurker. Join on in the discussion. The more the merrier.

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My grandparents moved there in 1974 and it never flooded until I45 widen in the mid 90's then Allison came in got about a inch in the house the rest of the homes got three feet in them. about 95% of the houses are torn down

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Wow, that map has to be from the early 1920s as it denotes Hwys 19 and 3.

That highway with the number 3 on it is not the present day State Hwy 3. In fact Hwy 3, or the Old Galvesto Road, isn't on this map. The road numbered 3 appears to be the old Beaumont Road, or what is now called US Hwy 90. For many years that route followed Liberty Road on a northeasterly track out of Houston, just as the present day highway does.

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That highway with the number 3 on it is not the present day State Hwy 3. In fact Hwy 3, or the Old Galvesto Road, isn't on this map. The road numbered 3 appears to be the old Beaumont Road, or what is now called US Hwy 90. For many years that route followed Liberty Road on a northeasterly track out of Houston, just as the present day highway does.

Yes, that is the old Beaumonnt Road and before it was U.S. 90 it was Texas 3. Highways frequently changed designations back then. The present Texas Highway 3 (aka Old Galveston Road) was known as Texas Highway 2 at the time of this map.

I have no idea why it was changed, but you can find the history of state road designations at TxDOT's website. That's where I got a lot of the information I posted much earlier int his thread. As those highways weren't in the Aldine area, I didn't mention them in that earlier post.

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Yes, that is the old Beaumonnt Road and before it was U.S. 90 it was Texas 3. Highways frequently changed designations back then. The present Texas Highway 3 (aka Old Galveston Road) was known as Texas Highway 2 at the time of this map.

I have no idea why it was changed, but you can find the history of state road designations at TxDOT's website. That's where I got a lot of the information I posted much earlier int his thread. As those highways weren't in the Aldine area, I didn't mention them in that earlier post.

Thanks for setting me straight. I didn't know that history of Hwy 3. Or Hwy 2.

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Hey, just wondering...was last night's 50-0 loss the worst in Aldine history? I don't remember them taking a beating like that in my lifetime. :huh:

No, it's close to being the worst, but not quite. However, yesterday's 50-0 loss was the worst opening day defeat in Aldine history. The previous worst opening day loss was was a 45-0 shellacking by Texas City in 1937, the Mustangs' second season.

The worst defeat in Aldine history was a 58-0 pounding by Spring Branch in 1966. The 58 points is the largest margin of defeat all-time for the Mustangs. (Coincidentally, Spring Branch went to the State Finals that year, losing to San Angelo Central.) Yesterday's loss was the worst since that defeat 40 years ago.

Aldine also lost a 1942 bidistrict playoff game to Galena Park 53-0. That's the second worst loss by margin of defeat. Yesterday's 50-point loss would be the third worst, margin-wise, all-time.

As far as points, the most points Aldine has ever given up in a game all-time is 72 to South Houston in 1964. Aldine lost that game 72-31. South Houston amassed 735 total yards (635 on the ground) and 30 first downs, all records against the Mustangs. The good news was that our QB had a great day - one of the best ever for a Pony QB - throwing for 217 yards and four TDs. Don't see that happening too often in an Aldine game.

I'm almost finished with my report. I've gotten all the information I can glean from newspapers and web sites, so it's just a matter of getting the remaining info typed. That should take a few days and then I'll need to proofread it.

As news coverage was spotty in the 1930s to about the early 50s, I won't have all the records because not all games were reported on and if they were, the stories often didn't mention individual or team stats for smaller schools until about 1955. Still, I'd imagine I got the vast majority of the big ones.

I've had no luck with any official channels so I'm still missing five games. But out of more than 700 total games, I guess I can live with that.

If anyone is interested in getting a report, please drop me a line and I'll be happy to share it. The total final report will be about 116 pages, so it will be a big file. I'll have scores, highlights and standings from 1936 to 2005. Eventually I'll add more Aldine area and school history for an enhanced Version 2, but that's awhile off.

BTW... what's up with the uniforms??? Saw the highlights... er, make that "highlights"... on Channel 11 and man, those were some nasty threads. Yuck-o!!!

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If anyone is interested in getting a report, please drop me a line and I'll be happy to share it. The total final report will be about 116 pages, so it will be a big file. I'll have scores, highlights and standings from 1936 to 2005. Eventually I'll add more Aldine area and school history for an enhanced Version 2, but that's awhile off.

BTW... what's up with the uniforms??? Saw the highlights... er, make that "highlights"... on Channel 11 and man, those were some nasty threads. Yuck-o!!!

I attempted to send you a message and may have repeated it. Sorry.

When Aldine's new coach took over he changed it all including the uniforms, more along the Titans look. I haven't seen them this year. Did they change again? I preferred the ones they wore at the time Smith retired. Guess I'm an old stick in the mud.

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I attempted to send you a message and may have repeated it. Sorry.

When Aldine's new coach took over he changed it all including the uniforms, more along the Titans look. I haven't seen them this year. Did they change again? I preferred the ones they wore at the time Smith retired. Guess I'm an old stick in the mud.

Yeah, they resemble the Titans threads, only the numbers are in a bizarre typeface with a huge round serif I've never seen on a uniform, so they're probably the same ones you had already seen.

You should have seen some of the ones from way back. When I get home, I'll see if I can post a pic or two I took at the library of some of the 1940s uniforms. They're from the Houston Chronicle of that era, so who knows if the mods will let it stay since the Chronicle is so *ahem* let's just say retentitive about their stuff. Not like I'm trying to make a profit or even a single penny. But who knows. I guess I can try.

Apparently the current helmet with the "rocking A" logo appeared around 1977 or 1978. Before that, they wore what looked like a solid blue helmet in the mid 1970s and a solid white one in the late 1960s/early 1970s. It was solid blue again in the mid 1960s. In the early 1960s Aldine had the same helmets as the Baltimore Colts, only the colors were reversed. In other words, it was solid blue with a white horseshoe. I never found any photos from the 1950s, so I have no idea what they wore then. I do know that plastic helmets were introduced in the mid 1950s and prior to that it was leather helmets. Whether the leather helmets were brown or blue I can't tell from a black and white photo.

Aldine's colors have always been some type of blue and white. There are stories from the 1940s mentioning their colors being such.

I wish I could include the photos and stories too, but as I mentioned, the Chronicle is quite squemish and then the file would be too big to send to anyone. It's about three MBs as it is with just text and a photo or two I took.

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  • 2 weeks later...
  • 3 weeks later...
Doubt I'll publish it, but I'd be happy to e-mail you a pdf of it when I'm done.

I'm not too far away from finishing, provided I leave out all the area history part... that's what's been taken all my time. If I leave that for later, I could have just the scores and season highlights done within a month and save the other stuff for an expanded version later.

I've compiled all the scores and standings from 1936 to 2005. I'm missing five scores (out of more than 700), so I figure I've got about 99 percent of the games.

Unfortunately, I'm missing (or think I'm missing) what is, to me, the most important game of all... the first one. From what I've been able to piece together, Aldine only played three games its inaugural season. I've found two of them. Only one game was covered by a newspaper, and that was a 37-0 loss to La Porte on October 17, 1936. Of course, when you get beat 37-0, you don't have too many highlights, and as such, Aldine doesn't get mentioned at all in the story... it's all La Porte.

The next week, Aldine lost to some school called Huntsville Demonstration 39-0. Huntsville Demonstration was a school run out of Sam Houston State University. It apparently didn't last long after the 1930s. There was no story on this game, only a notation in the weekly scoreboard.

I can't find the third game nor do I know who it was against or the date it was played. I'm only guessing at its existence because a web site called texpreps.com says that Aldine was 0-3 in their first year. I've found about five errors on their site, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here.

So, maybe the La Porte game was Aldine's first. Or maybe this other game was. I simply don't know. I've contacted the high school and the school district. Aldine's head coach says all records were thrown out when they remodeled the field house. I never heard back from the AISD athletic director. And never could get anyone at the UIL or texpreps.com to return messages. Pretty frustrating, I'll tell you.

Of the five games I'm missing, one is from 1936, one from 1937, one from 1938, one from 1939, one from 1942. The 1936 and 1937 games I don't know anything about. The 1938 and 1942 games were against Webster (now Clear Creek) and the 1939 game was against Willis. I've contacted both Clear Creek and Willis. Willis doesn't have records going back that far and I never heard back from Clear Creek.

Here to whet your appetite are the scores from what might well be one of the best Aldine teams ever: 1941 District 29-A champion Mustangs.

* - District game

v Somerville Yeguas - W 54-0

v Milby Buffaloes - W 7-0

v La Porte Bulldogs* - W 7-0

v Humble Wildcats - W 19-0

v Cypress Bobcats* - W 30-0

v Tomball Cougars* - W 13-7

v Crosby Buffaloes* - W 44-0

v Webster Wildcats* - W 39-0

Bidistrict Playoff

v Richmond Tigers - W 20-13

Conference A Region 8 Championship

v Navasota Rattlers - L 6-40

Wins 9 Losses 1

Conference A teams only played to a regional championship until 1948. Only AA played to a state title.

The game against Richmond, interestingly enough, was played on Friday, December 5, 1941 - two days before Pearl Harbor.

This was Aldine's first undeated seasin, first district championship and first playoff win. The previous year, Aldine captured a district zone title (akin to winning the Big 12 South), but lost the District Championship game to Pasadena. There was no district championship game in 1941 as the other zone winner, Galena Park, was banned from the postseason for using an ineligible player, as was the runnerup, Freeport.

The team pitched seven shutouts on 1941, a team record that still stands. They opened the season with five consecutive shutouts, a record they share with the 1940 team, who closed their year with five consecutive whitewashes. That means that Aldine shut out 10 consecutive regular season opponents over the last five games of 1940 and the first five of 1941. The only exception was the aforementioned 35-7 loss in the 1940 District 29-A title game.

The Milby game has an interesting background. That was to have been an open week for Aldine. Conference AA Milby's scheduled opponent backed out at the last minute and their coach called Aldine and arranged a game on short notice. With almost no prep time, the Conference A Mustangs shut out the Conference AA Buffs 7-0 in what was considered a big upset.

Here was the starting lineup for that team. Do note that teams played "one platoon" or "ironman" football - meaning player played both offense and defense:

Left End Whitfield

Left Tackle Walla

Left Guard Roach

Center Youngdoff

Right Guard Martin

Right Tackle Rigby

Right End Cornwell

Quarterback Slaughter

Left Half Jones

Right Half Deaton

Fullback Mendel

Doubt I'll publish it, but I'd be happy to e-mail you a pdf of it when I'm done.

I'm not too far away from finishing, provided I leave out all the area history part... that's what's been taken all my time. If I leave that for later, I could have just the scores and season highlights done within a month and save the other stuff for an expanded version later.

I've compiled all the scores and standings from 1936 to 2005. I'm missing five scores (out of more than 700), so I figure I've got about 99 percent of the games.

Unfortunately, I'm missing (or think I'm missing) what is, to me, the most important game of all... the first one. From what I've been able to piece together, Aldine only played three games its inaugural season. I've found two of them. Only one game was covered by a newspaper, and that was a 37-0 loss to La Porte on October 17, 1936. Of course, when you get beat 37-0, you don't have too many highlights, and as such, Aldine doesn't get mentioned at all in the story... it's all La Porte.

The next week, Aldine lost to some school called Huntsville Demonstration 39-0. Huntsville Demonstration was a school run out of Sam Houston State University. It apparently didn't last long after the 1930s. There was no story on this game, only a notation in the weekly scoreboard.

I can't find the third game nor do I know who it was against or the date it was played. I'm only guessing at its existence because a web site called texpreps.com says that Aldine was 0-3 in their first year. I've found about five errors on their site, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here.

So, maybe the La Porte game was Aldine's first. Or maybe this other game was. I simply don't know. I've contacted the high school and the school district. Aldine's head coach says all records were thrown out when they remodeled the field house. I never heard back from the AISD athletic director. And never could get anyone at the UIL or texpreps.com to return messages. Pretty frustrating, I'll tell you.

Of the five games I'm missing, one is from 1936, one from 1937, one from 1938, one from 1939, one from 1942. The 1936 and 1937 games I don't know anything about. The 1938 and 1942 games were against Webster (now Clear Creek) and the 1939 game was against Willis. I've contacted both Clear Creek and Willis. Willis doesn't have records going back that far and I never heard back from Clear Creek.

Here to whet your appetite are the scores from what might well be one of the best Aldine teams ever: 1941 District 29-A champion Mustangs.

* - District game

v Somerville Yeguas - W 54-0

v Milby Buffaloes - W 7-0

v La Porte Bulldogs* - W 7-0

v Humble Wildcats - W 19-0

v Cypress Bobcats* - W 30-0

v Tomball Cougars* - W 13-7

v Crosby Buffaloes* - W 44-0

v Webster Wildcats* - W 39-0

Bidistrict Playoff

v Richmond Tigers - W 20-13

Conference A Region 8 Championship

v Navasota Rattlers - L 6-40

Wins 9 Losses 1

Conference A teams only played to a regional championship until 1948. Only AA played to a state title.

The game against Richmond, interestingly enough, was played on Friday, December 5, 1941 - two days before Pearl Harbor.

This was Aldine's first undeated seasin, first district championship and first playoff win. The previous year, Aldine captured a district zone title (akin to winning the Big 12 South), but lost the District Championship game to Pasadena. There was no district championship game in 1941 as the other zone winner, Galena Park, was banned from the postseason for using an ineligible player, as was the runnerup, Freeport.

The team pitched seven shutouts on 1941, a team record that still stands. They opened the season with five consecutive shutouts, a record they share with the 1940 team, who closed their year with five consecutive whitewashes. That means that Aldine shut out 10 consecutive regular season opponents over the last five games of 1940 and the first five of 1941. The only exception was the aforementioned 35-7 loss in the 1940 District 29-A title game.

The Milby game has an interesting background. That was to have been an open week for Aldine. Conference AA Milby's scheduled opponent backed out at the last minute and their coach called Aldine and arranged a game on short notice. With almost no prep time, the Conference A Mustangs shut out the Conference AA Buffs 7-0 in what was considered a big upset.

Here was the starting lineup for that team. Do note that teams played "one platoon" or "ironman" football - meaning player played both offense and defense:

Left End Whitfield

Left Tackle Walla

Left Guard Roach

Center Youngdoff

Right Guard Martin

Right Tackle Rigby

Right End Cornwell

Quarterback Slaughter

Left Half Jones

Right Half Deaton

Fullback Mendel

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Regarging Aldine Football history my Uncle was Wendel Cornwell the end from that team. They lived on Hill Road too. His brother Sam Cornwell played quarterback for Aldine and they played together for one year before Wendel graduated. Sam Cornwell had some great games for Aldine as well. He punted, kicked extra points and returned punts and kick-offs. Wendel played fro the Marines and was actually offered a pro cntract by the Lions I beleive. He also had a scholarship offer to play at Texas A&M. Do you know anything about those years from 1942-1946

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Regarging Aldine Football history my Uncle was Wendel Cornwell the end from that team. They lived on Hill Road too. His brother Sam Cornwell played quarterback for Aldine and they played together for one year before Wendel graduated. Sam Cornwell had some great games for Aldine as well. He punted, kicked extra points and returned punts and kick-offs. Wendel played fro the Marines and was actually offered a pro cntract by the Lions I beleive. He also had a scholarship offer to play at Texas A&M. Do you know anything about those years from 1942-1946

S H Cornwell

The M O Cambell athletics department has the history your looking for. Its across the street from Aldine Middle School on Aldine Westfield road just south of Belt Way 8.

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Regarging Aldine Football history my Uncle was Wendel Cornwell the end from that team. They lived on Hill Road too. His brother Sam Cornwell played quarterback for Aldine and they played together for one year before Wendel graduated. Sam Cornwell had some great games for Aldine as well. He punted, kicked extra points and returned punts and kick-offs. Wendel played fro the Marines and was actually offered a pro cntract by the Lions I beleive. He also had a scholarship offer to play at Texas A&M. Do you know anything about those years from 1942-1946

S H Cornwell

The Cornwell brothers were definitely two of the greatest players to ever wear a Mustang uniform. To paraphrase Denzel Washington from "Training Day": They did some real damage.

Wendell had a 65-yard TD run in 1939 against Webster. He blocked a Pasadena punt and returned it 54 yards for a TD in Aldine's first postseason game in history - the 1940 District 29-1A Championship game. He scored the only points in Aldine's first big ever big upset - a 7-0 shocker of Class AA Houston Milby in 1941.

Sam scored 19 of Aldine's 21 points in a 21-19 win over Cedar Bayou in 1944. He had three TDs andan extra point. He returned a punt 90 yards for a TD and threw for two scores against over Tomball that same year.

Aldine was consecutive district champs from 1941 to 1944 (they weren't always the same district). They won a team-record 21 straight district games from 1940 to 1944 and, including ties, were unbeaten in 34 straight district games from 1939 to 1945.

If the 1980s and early 1990s were Aldine's Golden Age, then this period from 1940 to 1948 was their Silver Age.

By all means, if you have any stories or photos, please do share them.

I'm essentially finished with my football history. Now I just have to wait for them to complete this season. no reason to include it now that it's started.

An interesting tidbit: This weekend's 17-14 last-second win over MacArthur was the first Mustang game decided on the final play with no time left since 1982. That was the wacky 35-35 tie with MacArthur where we initially missed the extra point, giving the win to the Generals... until their fans rushed the field, prompting a penaly and giving Aldine new life, as no game can end on a defensive penalty. Steve Kennard made good on his second chance and with the tie, Aldine advanced to the playoffs, no doubt much to the chagrin of MacArthur.

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The M O Cambell athletics department has the history your looking for. Its across the street from Aldine Middle School on Aldine Westfield road just south of Belt Way 8.

I now live on the west side, so it's not at all easy to just drop on in during business hours. However, earlier this year I did write and call the athletic director a few times and got no reply. That was pretty disappointing.

If you drop by, please share whatever you find on the board. I've found 99.3% of the games (scores on 727 of 732) and quite a few of the major milestones. But there's lots other stuff I'd love to have that you can't get in a newspaper.

In answer to your earlier question, Aldine was called Prairie Switch in the 1870s until about 1888. Why exactly the name was changed remains a bit of a mystery. Local lore suggests the hokey conductor yelling "All dine!" story, but a poster named isuredid has suggested several more likely possibilities.

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I graduated at MacArthur in 1994. Go Generals.

Do you know exactly when MacArthur opened? The fielded their first varsity team in 1967, but I think the school opened in 1965. Do you know?

BTW, the first game in MacArthur history was on September 8, 1967 against Baytown Sterling, also playing the first game in its history. The Rangers won 20-12. MacArthur's first win was on October 27, 1967 - a 14-0 triumph over Westchester, yet another first year school.

Anyone wanting to do a history of MacArthur's football team would have a lot easier time than I've had with Aldine. After all, they could skip 31 years from 1936 to 1966. And reporting in the 1960s was much better than of the 1930s and 1940s. If the Post or Chronicle covered a game at all (and there were a lot fewer teams then), sometimes all you would get was a score and one or two lines. And the layout (if you could even call it a layout) of those old papers was awful at best, non-existant at worst.

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I now live on the west side, so it's not at all easy to just drop on in during business hours. However, earlier this year I did write and call the athletic director a few times and got no reply. That was pretty disappointing.

If you drop by, please share whatever you find on the board. I've found 99.3% of the games (scores on 727 of 732) and quite a few of the major milestones. But there's lots other stuff I'd love to have that you can't get in a newspaper.

In answer to your earlier question, Aldine was called Prairie Switch in the 1870s until about 1888. Why exactly the name was changed remains a bit of a mystery. Local lore suggests the hokey conductor yelling "All dine!" story, but a poster named isuredid has suggested several more likely possibilities.

They are widening Aldine Westfield road so sometimes its a little tricky driving on that road. When my uncle gets back from China next week i go check it out.

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Do you know exactly when MacArthur opened? The fielded their first varsity team in 1967, but I think the school opened in 1965. Do you know?

BTW, the first game in MacArthur history was on September 8, 1967 against Baytown Sterling, also playing the first game in its history. The Rangers won 20-12. MacArthur's first win was on October 27, 1967 - a 14-0 triumph over Westchester, yet another first year school.

Anyone wanting to do a history of MacArthur's football team would have a lot easier time than I've had with Aldine. After all, they could skip 31 years from 1936 to 1966. And reporting in the 1960s was much better than of the 1930s and 1940s. If the Post or Chronicle covered a game at all (and there were a lot fewer teams then), sometimes all you would get was a score and one or two lines. And the layout (if you could even call it a layout) of those old papers was awful at best, non-existant at worst.

That school opened in 1965-66 Go Generals

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Aldine was called Prairie Switch in the 1870s until about 1888. Why exactly the name was changed remains a bit of a mystery. Local lore suggests the hokey conductor yelling "All dine!" story, but a poster named isuredid has suggested several more likely possibilities.

It's just possible that "Aldine" may have been someone's first name. I've known several women named Aldine over the years, in fact I went to high school with one. It's not without precedent. We know that Alief was the first name of a prominent lady who lived in that area in the 1890s.

The Handbook of Texas says "In 1894 county surveyors named the community Dairy, but application for a post office in 1895 resulted in changing the name to Alief in honor of the first postmistress, Alief Ozella Magee." If you didn't know that, you'd go nuts trying to find a "local farm family" named "Alief".

(An aside: This is where the name "Dairy-Ashford" comes from. In keeping with Houston's ancient habit of naming rural roads for both the farming communities they connected, Dairy-Ashford ran from the Dairy area -- now known as Alief -- north to the Ashford community -- also known as Satsuma.)

While "Aldine" is not uncommon as a given name, it's extremely rare as a family name. If there was "a local farm family" named Aldine in north Harris County in the late 1800s, it's reasonable to think there would be at least a few people with that name still living in the Houston area today, but the current Houston Phone Book's residential pages -- the AT&T 2006 CD ROM -- has exactly ONE listing for someone with the last name of "Aldine".

That's almost non-existent for a metro area of nearly four million people. I'm voting for the given name explanation for Aldine.

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It's just possible that "Aldine" may have been someone's first name. I've known several women named Aldine over the years, in fact I went to high school with one. It's not without precedent. We know that Alief was the first name of a prominent lady who lived in that area in the 1890s.

The Handbook of Texas says "In 1894 county surveyors named the community Dairy, but application for a post office in 1895 resulted in changing the name to Alief in honor of the first postmistress, Alief Ozella Magee." If you didn't know that, you'd go nuts trying to find a "local farm family" named "Alief".

(An aside: This is where the name "Dairy-Ashford" comes from. In keeping with Houston's ancient habit of naming rural roads for both the farming communities they connected, Dairy-Ashford ran from the Dairy area -- now known as Alief -- north to the Ashford community -- also known as Satsuma.)

While "Aldine" is not uncommon as a given name, it's extremely rare as a family name. If there was "a local farm family" named Aldine in north Harris County in the late 1800s, it's reasonable to think there would be at least a few people with that name still living in the Houston area today, but the current Houston Phone Book's residential pages -- the AT&T 2006 CD ROM -- has exactly ONE listing for someone with the last name of "Aldine".

That's almost non-existent for a metro area of nearly four million people. I'm voting for the given name explanation for Aldine.

Yes, it well could have been a first name rather than a last name. Just by accident I came across some photos on the web of gravestones where the person's first name was Aldine. Or it also could have been someone with the first name of Aldus.

Given the pronunciation of Aldine as "AHL-deen" rather than "AHL-dyne" I still think the name idea is more possible than the hokey legend. I'd be more inclined to go towards the popular lore if the pronunciation were the other way.

I think it's either a probably name (probably a first name) or it was named after another town someone lived in before.

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Wow! Where in the world did you find that? Haven't had time to read it all, but I will.

I like how it gives the location of Frank Lorino's store. That mist have been a popular community gathering place back in the day as I've seen it listed even in Chronicle and Post news stories as a polling place for Aldine elections. I had thought it was also known as the Fairview Food Market/Lucky Seven store at Gulf Bank and Airline, but as that book says it is close to the Brubaker school, that rules that out.

I've been meaning to ask if you've found out anything about the Brubaker school. I believe the focus of my report on the Aldine High/Northline Terrace area should actually be on the Brubaker community near Aldine Mail Route/Hambrick and Airline rather than the Aldine one. Brubaker's the closer and thus would have had more impact on the residents of the future Northline Terrace area.

If you come across anything on the Brubaker or the Brubaker school, I'd love to see it. All I've seen is a map in the Texas Room that gives its approximate location.

Also, having read a little more, it says one of the polling places for this election is to be the Marrs High School building in the town of Aldine. As this election is in 1935, then how was Marrs High School built in 1936??? Was it actually built before and I've just been wrong or was there another Marrs High School that took the place of the one mentioned?

I could have sworn on a stack of Bibles that I read on Aldine's own web site that Marrs High was built in 1936. If they don't know when their own place was built, what does that mean?!? LOL!

Thanks!

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Wow! Where in the world did you find that? Haven't had time to read it all, but I will.

I like how it gives the location of Frank Lorino's store. That mist have been a popular community gathering place back in the day as I've seen it listed even in Chronicle and Post news stories as a polling place for Aldine elections. I had thought it was also known as the Fairview Food Market/Lucky Seven store at Gulf Bank and Airline, but as that book says it is close to the Brubaker school, that rules that out.

I've been meaning to ask if you've found out anything about the Brubaker school. I believe the focus of my report on the Aldine High/Northline Terrace area should actually be on the Brubaker community near Aldine Mail Route/Hambrick and Airline rather than the Aldine one. Brubaker's the closer and thus would have had more impact on the residents of the future Northline Terrace area.

If you come across anything on the Brubaker or the Brubaker school, I'd love to see it. All I've seen is a map in the Texas Room that gives its approximate location.

Also, having read a little more, it says one of the polling places for this election is to be the Marrs High School building in the town of Aldine. As this election is in 1935, then how was Marrs High School built in 1936??? Was it actually built before and I've just been wrong or was there another Marrs High School that took the place of the one mentioned?

I could have sworn on a stack of Bibles that I read on Aldine's own web site that Marrs High was built in 1936. If they don't know when their own place was built, what does that mean?!? LOL!

Thanks!

You're welcome. Believe it or not, I found the answer to your question about Marrs HS right here on the HAIF. In a discussion on north side history a couple of months ago, the one in which someone posted an incredible aerial photo of the far north side taken in the mid 50s, I learned that Marrs HS was built in 1935 at Aldine Bender and Aldine Westfield. It burned down in 1954, and a new high school, named Aldine High, was built where it still stands today at Airline and West Road.

Back where old Marrs HS used to be, the district built a new school, Aldine Junior High. It's also the present day location of the Aldine ISD Admin Bldg, the MO Campbell Center, and Thorne Stadium.

Here's a link back to that HAIF page with that incredible photo. http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...?showtopic=7234

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You're welcome. Believe it or not, I found the answer to your question about Marrs HS right here on the HAIF. In a discussion on north side history a couple of months ago, the one in which someone posted an incredible aerial photo of the far north side taken in the mid 50s, I learned that Marrs HS was built in 1935 at the intersection of Aldine Bender and Aldine Westfield. It burned down in the early 50s, and a new high school, named Aldine High, was built where it still stands today at Airline and West Road. Back at the location of old Marrs HS, the district built a new school, Aldine Junior High.

Thanks, Filio, but that was me who had posted that on the other thread (which was the Amusement Park thread - go figure). That lead to the creation of this thread. But I had stated that Aldine (Marrs) High was built in 1936, which is what I got from the Aldine school district.

Either they were wrong or...

The Marrs High School that opened in 1936 replaced an earlier version.

As that book above clearly stated, one of the polling places for the May 1935 election was Marrs High School. So something is definitely amiss... or at least we are missing a piece of information.

According to Aldine ISD, the school district came into being in 1935, which that book above bears out. Common School District 29, the county-run predecessor of AISD, was formed in 1932. So it is possible they had a school building of some sort, named it Marrs High, then transferred the name to a new school built by AISD.

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Thanks, Filio, but that was me who had posted that on the other thread (which was the Amusement Park thread - go figure). That lead to the creation of this thread. But I had stated that Aldine (Marrs) High was built in 1936, which is what I got from the Aldine school district.

Either they were wrong or...

The Marrs High School that opened in 1936 replaced an earlier version.

As that book above clearly stated, one of the polling places for the May 1935 election was Marrs High School. So something is definitely amiss... or at least we are missing a piece of information.

According to Aldine ISD, the school district came into being in 1935, which that book above bears out. Common School District 29, the county-run predecessor of AISD, was formed in 1932. So it is possible they had a school building of some sort, named it Marrs High, then transferred the name to a new school built by AISD.

It's possible that Marrs HS was owned and managed by the Harris County School District, which was responsible for building schools in areas not served by an existing ISD. It's now called the Harris County Department of Education, and I'm not entirely sure just what its responsibilities are now.

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It's possible that Marrs HS was owned and managed by the Harris County School District, which was responsible for building schools in areas not served by an existing ISD. There was such a thing back then, but I'm not sure it still exists anymore.

Yes, that is quite possible. Marrs High was named for Starlin Marion Newberry Marrs, who was state superintendent of public instruction from 1923 to 1932. I've been trying to figure out why in the world would Aldine name a school after him as he apparently had no ties to the area that I can find. However, as Common School District 29 was formed in 1932, maybe the county built a school in the Aldine area and as Marrs had just died, named it after him. Or they renamed an old school when the CSD was formed. Then a newer, probably bigger school took its place in 1936.

There was at least one school building in the Aldine area when the CSD was formed. The district mentions a two-room school house being built in 1910 and expanded to four rooms in 1912. Perhaps this was expanded other times in the next 20 years?

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Thanks!

Would it be safe to say, then, based on that plat, that the Brubaker community/neighborhood/subdivision/whatever was founded around the year 1910?

You've found so much great stuff I really ought to give you a credit somewhere in my report. Would that be OK? Guess I ought to get your name. Send me an IM and I'll be more than happy to give credit where credit is due when I finish my report.

I don't know what to think about the topo maps and the schools. That book clearly stated Marrs was around in 1935 and I did double check on the AISD web site and it does say there Marrs was built in 1936. Either someone was wrong (unlikely) or there were two schools. I mean, the kids in the area had to go to school somewhere before CSD 29 or AISD were around, right?

I don't know what to think about the topo maps and the schools. That book clearly stated Marrs was around in 1935 and I did double check on the AISD web site and it does say there Marrs was built in 1936. Either someone was wrong (unlikely) or there were two schools. I mean, the kids in the area had to go to school somewhere before CSD 29 or AISD were around, right? Even that book mentioned a Brubaker school, or actually, a former Brubaker school.

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This is from the Harris County Block Books...looks like W. Lorino was the bottom and West Road was the top of the Brubaker survey. I see one parcel marked Aldine ISD. Maybe this was where Brubaker High was located?

Possible, but unlikely. For one, that's the location of the former Inez Carroll Elementary. Second, according to the wording in that book you posted earlier, the Brubaker school was already closed by the time Aldine ISD came into being in 1935. Note how the book said the "former" Brubaker school.

Also, I'm not sure if the Brubaker school was a high school. It's only been described as a school. Perhaps it was only a one-room schoolhouse. Probably that's all it was. I suppose it's possible Inez Carroll was built on the site of the former Brubaker school, but Carroll was built sometime in the 1950s or early 1960s, long after the Brubaker school. Still, never say never. I never thought there was a Marrs High in 1935, but you've shown evidence there was.

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Actually, thinking about it some more it said that both the Lorino Store and the Brubaker school were on E. Montgomery (Airline) and that lot is not.

I didn't catch the part about the school being on E Montgomery. I would guess the Lorino store was at the corner of Lorino street and Airline. I'd sure love to see a picture of the area then.

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I noticed that the block books have an entry for Lorino Place and it brings up the same maps as Brubaker. Maybe you could track down some of the Lorino family. When I was growning up in the East End of Houston there was a grocery store called Lorino's. I wonder if that was the same family. Later on in the 80s there was a club there called Local Charm, but the Lorino's sign was still on the building.

I've noticed those block books often overlap with others, like they are cross referenced.

The block map you provided earlier from the archives was much more helpful than the ones on the Tax Office's site. For one, they are much older and provide a date to age the community. Second, as evidenced in the later plats, that area has been subdivided several more times over the years. Most of that Brubaker area on the east side of Airline became Northfield Place in the mid 1940s. On the west side it became Donnybrook and Blue Bell Place at about the same time. On HCAD's site I could only find a few lots that were under the legal description of Brubaker. The rest reflect the later neighborhoods.

I checked the census for 1930 and I don't think the Lorino family from East End was related to Frank Lorino and his wife Frances. Both Frank and Francis show their parents to be born in Sicily. Frances was born in New York and Frank in Sicily. They had a daughter named Nellie who was 6 in 1930 and the address shows as 480 East Montgomery Road. It is possible the daughter is still alive, but she would be quite old now.

480 East Montgomery? Sure it's not 9480 East Montgomery? Although 9480 comes out at Hill Road and Airline, a little south of Lorino Street. 9840 Airline comes out perfectly at Lorino Street and Airline.

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HCAD says that 9912 Airline is a residential structure built in 1930. It's now occupied by yet another of what appears to be quite a few used car lots or automotive repair businesses along that stretch. However, based on the location, it's possible this address could have been Lorino's home and/or the Lorino store location. It is on Airline near Lorino Street.

I want to go to the Texas Room and look up Lorino's store in the old phone books. I had hoped to do that tomorrow, but apparently there's some sort of festival downtown and I really hate fighting traffic. So much for that idea.

But I'll mark this addy as something to look for later when I finally do make it there.

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That's almost identical to the one I saw in the Texas Room and posted a smaller cropped version on the board. 'Bout the only difference was the colors. I also saw a similar one to this there that had the old schools - Aldine, Westfield, Higgs and Brubaker. Yours is missing Brubaker.

From memory, I'd say the handwriting on the maps I saw and this one you've posted is the same, so perhaps those that I saw were later versions? You say this one shows 1914 schools... maybe that means Brubaker was left out here because it wasn't yet around?

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So apparently the Brubaker school was only around from sometime between 1915 and 1934, as the 1913 book doesn't list it, the 1914 map doesn't list it and the 1935 book calls it the "former" Brubaker school.

I keep thinking that map I saw that was similar to yours said either 1919 or 1929.

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So where the heck was Hartwell High School? Obviously Hartwell was not the Aldine school photo you posted earlier. That must have been the primary school, along with Westfield and Higgs (and later Brubaker).

Was perhaps Hartwell also later the Marrs High mentioned in the 1935 School District book?

Is this a 1913 book you're looking at?

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Finally found some information on the Gulf Coast Airport that sat on the current site of Aldine High. According to old phone books at the Texas Room, the airport was at 11165 Airline Drive (Aldine High is at 11101 Airline). Apparently it opened in 1947 (meaning at least it was in the 1947 phone book, but not in the 1946).

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