KatyGuy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 A quick trip to the death chamber will knock the insanity right the hell out of her!!!!!!!!!You obviously have never dealt with a family member with mental illness. The whole Andrea Yates story is sheer tragedy....all 5 kids gone and a loving mother that has to live with the knowledge that she killed them.....NO WINNERS..... only the what ifs!!!!! Your comment shows ignorance and lack of knowledge about mental illness.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston1stWordOnTheMoon Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 You obviously have never dealt with a family member with mental illness. The whole Andrea Yates story is sheer tragedy....all 5 kids gone and a loving mother that has to live with the knowledge that she killed them.....NO WINNERS..... only the what ifs!!!!! Your comment shows ignorance and lack of knowledge about mental illness....To call that woman a loving mother........There has to be some sort of early release program in place at various nut houses around the country.....People calling that woman a loving mother ,in my opinion, BELONG ON THE HEAVILY MEDICATED SIDE OF A NUT HOUSE.This is what i think of your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmainguy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 You obviously have never dealt with a family member with mental illness. The whole Andrea Yates story is sheer tragedy....all 5 kids gone and a loving mother that has to live with the knowledge that she killed them.....NO WINNERS..... only the what ifs!!!!! Your comment shows ignorance and lack of knowledge about mental illness.... KatyGuy, Welcome to the forum and our little demented moonie-boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 To call that woman a loving mother........There has to be some sort of early release program in place at various nut houses around the country.....People calling that woman a loving mother ,in my opinion, BELONG ON THE HEAVILY MEDICATED SIDE OF A NUT HOUSE.This is what i think of your comment.The thing is that few if any people truly understand mental illness.While no one in my family (to my knowledge) has it, I've experienced it to at a job I had and have seen and heard things from my sister who is a social worker.While I'm not entirely excusing Yates horrible crime, the signs were there that she was totally unstable. While I'm not familiar with ALL of the particulars, the fact that this relationship (I feel) was fairly abusive marriage. By abusive, I'm not saying he beat her, but rather due to the fact she had that many kids, it would have been difficult for her to seek some way to balance out her sanity by at least going out and visiting friends and family. Raising a single child requires alot of patience and demands alot from you mentally, but when you include 5 children all within 6 or 7 years of each other, it's a recipe for disaster.If he simply took the advice given after his fourth child had been born and stopped having children and been more supportive, then this tragedy wouldn't have happend and we would have never heard of the Yates family.It is my firm belief that he was a major contributor of these murders and he simply got off free and living the good life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 My Heart goes out to this poor, tormented woman. If there is any justice in this world, Russell Yates would be taken out and hung by his gonads.i know some of his officemates...instead of going home afterwork he'd go to barnes and noble on bay area to look at magazines for a couple of hrs. doesn't sound like a good parent to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights2Bastrop Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 While I certainly understand those who feel Andrea should pay for her crimes, it bothers me the degree of hatred expressed by some. I remember my own disgust for Darlie Routier and Susan Smith, both mothers who killed their babies. I wanted them both to pay the ultimate price for what they did, especially because of their actions after the fact. But I never reacted as strongly as some on here have. But Andrea is not like either Routier or Smith. Just looking at her, I can tell she is not all there. Her case is different, and the jury saw it the same way. I just hope this is the end of it. Andrea is where she belongs, and she will get the help she needs and deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I do not care what illness she has, or that any of you have, that woman DROWNED all of her children; even chasing the last few because they saw what she did. Everytime I think about it, it brings me to tears. Its even more sickening to read what some people say.While Houston1stWordOnTheMoon may be pushing it a little extreme, I agree with him.And before any of you discredit my opinion, I know a little thing or two about PPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 To call that woman a loving mother........There has to be some sort of early release program in place at various nut houses around the country.....People calling that woman a loving mother ,in my opinion, BELONG ON THE HEAVILY MEDICATED SIDE OF A NUT HOUSE.This is what i think of your comment.Her own HUSBAND has made the claim Moonman, so go ahead and throw him in with her.Have you even been following this trial ? I think he may have know Andrea a little better than anyone on this planet. He claims that she was a loving mother with a mental disorder. None of the kids deserved to die, that is not what the point is here. The woman killed her children because she was hearing voices, and she was off her meds, so she could have more children for Rusty. What SANE woman is gonna kill her 5 babies ? Is there not ONE mother on this board that can vouch that a SANE mother of 5 is not going to do something like that. If she had killed just 1 child because Andrea thought that one child was "possessed" or needed to be "saved" then I can see a murder charge, shaken baby syndrome happens all the time, but it isn't by an insane mother, BUT FIVE ! She isn't a serial killer, she didn't have the kids just to kill them, she doesn't suffer from Munchausen's disease. She thought she had to save the kids from Satan ! I can't believe some of you are so closed minded. A tragedy occurred and 5 tiny lives were lost, and it all could have been avoided. Through medicine and through a different way of guidance, i.e. a different belief system. Anyone that has been following the trial knows the Yates are a little deep into religion.And this is what the devil does.TKKCoog, I caught the lyric my friend. Booyah ! :closedeyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarthaG Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I know PPD personally. I have first hand experience with Bi-Polar disorder and have dealt with psychotic episodes on 2 occasions. I know how the mind can twist and things come into your head that makes no sense to others but seem perfectly logical to you. This is why I could not condemn Andrea to death. We will never know exactly what was going on inside her brain at the time and never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston1stWordOnTheMoon Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 This is why I could not condemn Andrea to death. We will never know exactly what was going on inside her brain at the time and never will.I would like for people to stop attempting to dress this child murdering wench up in a gospel gown and holding the defense halo of "insanity" over her head. Because of what she did, she is nothing more than VERMON and she should be EXTERMINATED!!!!! Take her CHILD murdering ass to the death chamber!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 While I certainly understand those who feel Andrea should pay for her crimes, it bothers me the degree of hatred expressed by some. I remember my own disgust for Darlie Routier and Susan Smith, both mothers who killed their babies. I wanted them both to pay the ultimate price for what they did, especially because of their actions after the fact. But I never reacted as strongly as some on here have. But Andrea is not like either Routier or Smith. Just looking at her, I can tell she is not all there. Her case is different, and the jury saw it the same way. I just hope this is the end of it. Andrea is where she belongs, and she will get the help she needs and deserves.You certainly have the ability to whip out an amazing post on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarthaG Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I would like for people to stop attempting to dress this child murdering wench up in a gospel gown and holding the defense halo of "insanity" over her head. Because of what she did, she is nothing more than VERMON and she should be EXTERMINATED!!!!! Take her CHILD murdering ass to the death chamber!!!Moonie, no one is denying that what she did is terrible. But to speak of her in the way that you have been doing on this tread is disgusting. It makes me wonder if you have some issues that need to be dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 What a double standard we have...Texas executes the mentally ill all the time. This is a fact.Why is Andrea special?Get a rope, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 What a double standard we have...Texas executes the mentally ill all the time. This is a fact.Why is Andrea special?Get a rope,Actually, the executing of the mentally ill has been declared unconstitutional. Those who are terrified that Houston will lose its title as barbaric, execution capital of the free world, may rest easy. This was only one case, and she is not loose on the streets. Harris County still executes more people than every civilized country. You can go back to your churches now and proclaim your love of your fellow man and celebrate your "culture of life". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Actually, the executing of the mentally ill has been declared unconstitutional. I guess they forgot to tell that to 1/2 man 1/2 angel rail car killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 The problem with declaring the execution of the mentally ill is opening doors for those to falsify that they are mentally ill. While a few MIGHT have been sick in the mind, there will be an overwhelming amount of people that will claim it but will be of perfectly sound mind that murdered for the sake of a man's watch that run the risk of avoiding the needle.If an insanity plea is made, it should be put in the context of what happend immediately before and after the murder.considering that most murders are committed by people that victims actually know (friend, relative, lover, ex-lover, doorman, etc), the odds are very high that it was a crime of passion or an ongoing argument that escalated out of control. so if an insanity becomes an issue, it should be brought in early and put into context before some moron decides 10 days before an execution is "Oh, I forgot! he's retarded!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I guess they forgot to tell that to 1/2 man 1/2 angel rail car killer.Your inability to distinguish between the extraordinarily mentally ill (by even the state's witnesses) and a sociopath is impressive. But, if reducing everything you do not comprehend to simple unsupported analogies helps you make it through your day, good for you. Just don't expect others to to find them thoughtful or intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston1stWordOnTheMoon Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Moonie, no one is denying that what she did is terrible. But to speak of her in the way that you have been doing on this tread is disgusting. It makes me wonder if you have some issues that need to be dealt with.No dear heart. I am the same as i ever was. If you have been following my post, you will know that. I dont believe in "gray" areas and i dont believe in painting a rosey "picture of understanding" in order to make this woman appear less evil than she is. You go on living in the world of gray if that works for you. You go on looking at things "through her eyes". Its not my scene.....She is what she is, and that is a cold blooded child murdering delicate flower. Simple as that! Child murderers should have an open invite, in the express lane, to the death chamber!!! My view on this is the same today as it was yesterday and as it will be tomorrow.If you are disgusted with the way i am speaking about that CHILD MURDERER, visualize the dead bodies of those children. Visualize that woman waiting for her husband to leave so she can begin MURDERING those INNOCENT kids one by one.Visualize them fighting kicking and screaming to not be murdered at the hands of thier mother. Visualize those kids choking and gasping for breath as they struggle to get free from drowning. Visualize that witch chasing them down and drowning them one by one.........Now let me know how disgusted you are........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Oh yes, I am a monster. Ooooo.... Uncivil little me!But so is Harris County, Chuck Rosenthal and the prosecutors!Don't forget they all wanted her dead to begin with, but you know how all the legal stuff works. I hardly think Moon and I are the only ones who agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmainguy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Now let me know how disgusted you are........ Not to answer for Martha, but your cold-bloodedness always disgusts me. You do seem to have some issues and many times your solutions involve death or physical violence...which is just kinda sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Maybe he needs a hug and a paxil?Better living through chemistry, I always say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 But so is Harris County, Chuck Rosenthal and the prosecutors!Don't forget they all wanted her dead to begin with, but you know how all the legal stuff works. I hardly think Moon and I are the only ones who agree.No disagreement here...on either point.However, I learned long ago that debating the death penalty with blood-thirsty Harris County residents is a waste of time. So, I'll leave you guys to debate who wants to kill faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I just think the Yates pitty-party crowd forgets that the State wanted her dead.That's all I am saying. I'm out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarthaG Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 No dear heart. I am the same as i ever was. If you have been following my post, you will know that. I dont believe in "gray" areas and i dont believe in painting a rosey "picture of understanding" in order to make this woman appear less evil than she is. You go on living in the world of gray if that works for you. You go on looking at things "through her eyes". Its not my scene.....She is what she is, and that is a cold blooded child murdering delicate flower. Simple as that! Child murderers should have an open invite, in the express lane, to the death chamber!!! My view on this is the same today as it was yesterday and as it will be tomorrow.If you are disgusted with the way i am speaking about that CHILD MURDERER, visualize the dead bodies of those children. Visualize that woman waiting for her husband to leave so she can begin MURDERING those INNOCENT kids one by one.Visualize them fighting kicking and screaming to not be murdered at the hands of thier mother. Visualize those kids choking and gasping for breath as they struggle to get free from drowning. Visualize that witch chasing them down and drowning them one by one.........Now let me know how disgusted you are........What she did IS disgusting. As a mother I can not comprehend it. Just as I can not understand how mothers leave their children. And yes, killing your children is the most tragic thing a parent can do. She is sick in a way that hopefully you will never have to understand. She thought she was saving them. In her mind, at that time, it was the right thing to do. She will be punished. She will spend her life in a State Mental Hospital, very much like prison. She will live the rest of her life knowing what she did. To me that is much more painful than being put to death. I do not understand a Black and White world. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Maybe he needs a hug and a paxil?Better living through chemistry, I always say.Yep, and maybe if Andrea had been able to take her Paxil and get a hug, we wouldn't be talking about this, right Moonman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 What would Tom say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmainguy Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 What would Tom say?"I'm NOT gay! Really! I AM NOT GAY!!!"...oh, you meant about paxil and hugs...never mind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 <------ All respect for 'Coog, just flew out the window ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 "I'm NOT gay! Really! I AM NOT GAY!!!"... I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I love it! Those Paxils look amazingly like Xtasy, I may have to look into those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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