Dominax Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I-10 will be may favorite freeway completed in 2009.Big opening space between the freeway of SH 288they should plan on planting palm trees and a small mini creek down along that middle section of the freeway with sand and rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 They are planting trees, but the orginal concept was to place another freeway within the median. Right now it is being proposed to be a new tollway or HOT lanes. I don't think the new toll facility will need all the space though leaving room for a row of trees on each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorAggie Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I'd hate to see those (recently planted) trees go. They're just starting to really take hold and fill-in the space. Maybe HCTRA would uproot the trees in the ROW and replant them either with the current trees for a denser row of trees or work with TxDOT to replant them on the outer edges of the freeway. I like the denser row because it could make for a very cool driving experience on the tollway--especially heading into downtown with the skyline view between a good stand of trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominax Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 Will the city of Houston ever gonna build flyover ramps at this section of the SH 288 freeway and Bw8 tollway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of University Oaks Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 (edited) The technically correct answer to your question is "no." The City of Houston will not build direct connector ramps between these two highways because they have no jurisdiction over state and county roadways. However, I think the latest H-GAC TIP includes a line item for direct connectors at this intersection. I don't know when they're supposed to be built, however. TxDOT and HCTRA would likely share construction costs. Edited December 12, 2005 by The Voice of University Oaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWSchultz Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Will the city of Houstonever gonna build flyover ramps at this section of the SH 288 freeway and Bw8 tollway. I hear you loud and clear Dominax. That intersection is already starting to exhibit growing pains. With over 10,000 homes being built in Shadow Creek Ranch, you can bet a solid amount of them will be going through that intersection every day. Direct exits from B8 onto Kirby and/or Kingsley from the East AND West would be a great help. I think they're going to have an exit from the eastbound lanes to Kirby in the near future but it would be more effective from the westbound lanes in my opinion. I'll soon be driving from SCR to Clear Lake each day. Now, because HCTRA decided to put the two closest tolls on B8 near this stretch, I"ll be forced to use the B8/288 stoplights. Either that or spend an extra $500 a year for two tolls instead of one. There is a toll 3.5 miles east of 288 and 1.5 miles west of 288. As a result of these tolls being so close, HCTRA limits the on/off ramps. Heading west to SCR from I-45, you either have to exit at 288 (major pain) or exit at 521 (another $500 a year and it still has one of those goofy roundabout B8 entrance/exits, presumably to avoid the railroad tracks). Tough call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I commute from cullen and 8 to clear lake quite often. there's only one toll for me so i often take the beltway, but it really only saves me 10 minutes. there are so few lights on the feeder, and you can jump on at beamer for free and connect to 45 directly. a direct ramp from 288 to beltway would be really nice. i never use that intersection, i take cullen north to almeda to get to 288. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWSchultz Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 (edited) I commute from cullen and 8 to clear lake quite often. there's only one toll for me so i often take the beltway, but it really only saves me 10 minutes. there are so few lights on the feeder, and you can jump on at beamer for free and connect to 45 directly. a direct ramp from 288 to beltway would be really nice. i never use that intersection, i take cullen north to almeda to get to 288.Yeah, since you're on the east side of 288, life is a lot better. I've been experimenting with different ways to get from 288/B8 to Clear Lake. I've tried the feeder and I think there are 4 lights and you're right, I would guess it takes an additional 10-15 minutes. My main problem is heading west and the fact that there are no exits between 288 and 521. Does Cullen intersect with 2234/McHard Road? I can't remember. It doesn't on google maps but those are a little old. Edited December 12, 2005 by BWSchultz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 ^ i don't think there is a signal at Cullen and McHard, so i doubt it connects. There is a light at Hughes Ranch so maybe that goes through, never gone that way though. i wish there were free entrances/exits around the beltway and 288 like there are at all the other freeway interchanges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowbrow Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 No McHard and Cullen do not intersect. That area is pretty fubar'd in the morning. I use the BW8>Cullen>518 route alot.The only alternate north of 518/Broadway is take McHard to Smith Ranch South to Hughes Ranch East to Stone North to Brookside East. A bit convoluted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWSchultz Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Well, at least they're THINKING about building direct connectors with B8/288...Chron: 288 Traffic CountBetter to do something now before it's too late and traffic is so bad that it would take ten years to make improvements *coughKatyFreewaycough*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincoRanch-HoustonResident Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) After reading, I decide to look at Shadow Creek Ranch's website, and I read this: "Shadow Creek Ranch is the #1 selling master-planned community in the Houston-Pearland Metroplex."Ehh, Houston-Pearland Metroplex. Edited December 16, 2005 by CincoRanch-HoustonResident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I second that...Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown is okay.. but Houston-Pearland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWSchultz Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I second that...Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown is okay.. but Houston-Pearland?I'm not positive or anything, but I think they could just say "Houston Metroplex" or "Houston Metro Area." I think it's selling faster than anything else in Houston. But I think you have to have two cities of more comparable size to use it like they did and I really don't think Houston has any suburbs that qualify. For example, you could say Dallas-Fort Worth or DC-Baltimore. The closest you could say is Houston-Galveston, since Galveston is technically part of the Houston metro area but even that is stretching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 The old term used to be "Greater Houston". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) They're just trying to market the Pearland area, where the development is located. They're the only ones who have ever used such a designation. Thus, they're just trying to sell homes.Doesn't mean much if they say that they're the #1 selling development in the Houston-Cypress Metroplex, for example. No, they're trying to promote 1) their product and 2) the location of their product. Edited December 16, 2005 by The Great Hizzy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWSchultz Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Doesn't mean much if they say that they're the #1 selling development in the Houston-Cypress Metroplex, for example. No, they're trying to promote 1) their product and 2) the location of their product.They could certainly have phrased it better. The other point (besides location) is that SCR is, in fact, selling ridiculously fast, primarily because of the location. I think they originally thought it was going to take 15 years to sell out. Now they're saying closer to 6-8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Is 288 completed as a freeway yet down there? On Google Earth, 288 still has some cross streets from the Beltway, all the way down to Highway 6. Is it planned to be a full freeway down to Lake Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Is 288 completed as a freeway yet down there? On Google Earth, 288 still has some cross streets from the Beltway, all the way down to Highway 6. Is it planned to be a full freeway down to Lake Jackson?I recall that the freeway ends at either FM 518 or SH 6. I think they're extending it out to at least FM 1462.Max? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAK Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 it definitely goes past 518. i can't remember if i had a stop or not when i drove to hwy6 last month. there is a lot of development out there, so don't worry, it'll be a freeway soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 it definitely goes past 518. i can't remember if i had a stop or not when i drove to hwy6 last month. there is a lot of development out there, so don't worry, it'll be a freeway soon enough.I can tell you this much: there are no stop signs/lights between Houston and Lake Jackson/Clute. Once 288 becomes 332, there are a few lights heading toward Freeport, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby123 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 As far as I know that SH288 extends with grid separations from downtown all the way to FM 518. More grid separation is now in the process of construction at South Fork Drive just south of FM 518. Upgrading SH288 to freeway standard will probably continue on one intersection at a time. More frontage road is being added between Beltway 8 and FM2234. For more information concerning SH 288 corridor go to SH 288 Corridor Feasibility Study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rem78 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 As far as I know that SH288 extends with grid separations from downtown all the way to FM 518. More grid separation is now in the process of construction at South Fork Drive just south of FM 518. Upgrading SH288 to freeway standard will probably continue on one intersection at a time. More frontage road is being added between Beltway 8 and FM2234. For more information concerning SH 288 corridor go to SH 288 Corridor Feasibility Study.In January or February I spoke to Roger Gonzalez at txdot regarding the feasibility study and basically was told that all the research part was done on, they were creating plans (making decisions?) on what would work best for 288 expansion, HOV, etc.. He said the public would be invited to meetings sometime this fall or winter. With all the new businesses opening up along 288, some attention needs to be spent there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCR Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 In January or February I spoke to Roger Gonzalez at txdot regarding the feasibility study and basically was told that all the research part was done on, they were creating plans (making decisions?) on what would work best for 288 expansion, HOV, etc.. He said the public would be invited to meetings sometime this fall or winter. With all the new businesses opening up along 288, some attention needs to be spent there.As of today, when do you think the 288 expansion project will start and finish? A lot of us who travel on 288 daily would like to know. Traffic is getting worse and worse. Hopefully, with the grass median between the inbound and outbound lanes, construction would not take long. It will not become a 10 year expansion project like I-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 As of today, when do you think the 288 expansion project will start and finish? A lot of us who travel on 288 daily would like to know. Traffic is getting worse and worse. Hopefully, with the grass median between the inbound and outbound lanes, construction would not take long. It will not become a 10 year expansion project like I-10.Unless HCTRA gets involved unexpectedly (doubtful), I wouldn't put money on it being a quick project. Its a state-owned ROW, so even if HCTRA wanted to run a toll road down the middle, they'd have to negotiate with TXDoT for the rights. They'd be more likely to undertake the Alvin Freeway project first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 It seems like there is enough space around 288, so Metro can make some Park and Ride places around 288. They can be like those "T" stations. Have an HOV at least down to Highway 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 It seems like there is enough space around 288, so Metro can make some Park and Ride places around 288. They can be like those "T" stations. Have an HOV at least down to Highway 6.Although they've been discussing it for some time now, METRO's service area doesn't currently extend down into Pearland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmurrah Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hey folks I really enjoy reading this forum. I was curious if anyone had any info on the SH 288 Corridor Feasibility Study that DOT began in 2003.Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hey folks I really enjoy reading this forum. I was curious if anyone had any info on the SH 288 Corridor Feasibility Study that DOT began in 2003.BrianI do not wish to see 288 convert into a toll road, especially not during my school year; I commute to school using SH 288. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 (edited) I do not wish to see 288 convert into a toll road, especially not during my school year; I commute to school using SH 288.We'll be sure to forward your concern to the toll road authority and TxDOT. Edited December 16, 2006 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTrain Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I like the South Freeway as is because TxDot is not your friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Plastic Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 It wouldn't become a tollway but have TOlllanes in the middles. Much like The Katy freeway accept they're not that much needed. 288 doesn't get backed up does it.What I think they should do is put some tolllanes in or expand it. Then in the very center put some commuter rail tracks. That way the commuters could ride all the way Downtown and not have to transfer onto Main St. It would go down 288 to 610 and meet the Main St. line at The Astrodome. Then either take 610 or go down the tracks to SOuth Main. It would then go toStafford. Then lastly to First Colony Mall(Sugarland). I say this cause there's so much open space in the middle of 288. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 288 doesn't get backed up does it. What I think they should do is put some tolllanes in or expand it. Then in the very center put some commuter rail tracks. That way the commuters could ride all the way Downtown and not have to transfer onto Main St. It would go down 288 to 610 and meet the Main St. line at The Astrodome. Then either take 610 or go down the tracks to SOuth Main. It would then go toStafford. Then lastly to First Colony Mall(Sugarland). I say this cause there's so much open space in the middle of 288. The plan is to preserve the right of way used by the railroad tracks along Almeda Road for future use as commuter rail. The median will accomodate additional general purpose lanes and bidirectional HOT. That's what 288 was initially designed for, and that's how it will be used...but they're going to need to redesign the interchange with I-45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTrain Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 The plan is to preserve the right of way used by the railroad tracks along Almeda Road for future use as commuter rail. The median will accomodate additional general purpose lanes and bidirectional HOT. That's what 288 was initially designed for, and that's how it will be used...but they're going to need to redesign the interchange with I-45. NOOOOOOOOO!! **mutters to self: We don't never get to have original interchanges in Houston no mo** 288 doesn't get backed up does it. I see someone here is hard of hearing and can't hear traffic updates either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirous Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) The interchange with I-45 is just fine. It's I-45 itself that needs help, as well as the downtown section of US59. The interchange backs up because I-45 backs up; four lanes of NB capacity is more than enough, if only they don't merge down to two in the end.288 inside the Loop is adequate; they need to modernize the South Loop interchange, as well as widen it all the way out to Pearland. Edited December 18, 2006 by desirous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 The interchange backs up because I-45 backs up; four lanes of NB capacity is more than enough, if only they don't merge down to two in the end.Bear in mind that not only do they merge down to two, but for each exit to I-45 North and South, they merge down to one lane. Depending upon the time of day, one or the other are heavily used, but not necessarily both. You're right that the I-45 capacity needs to be upgraded as well, though.288 inside the Loop is adequate; they need to modernize the South Loop interchange, as well as widen it all the way out to Pearland.Inside the loop, they at least need to consider more efficient interchanges at Holcombe/OST and at North and South MacGregor. A flyover or two supporting TMC commuters would be very helpful and would also increase ambulance accessibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Plastic Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I don't think they rails on S.Main should be used. WHat will the train do when there's traffic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I don't think they rails on S.Main should be used. WHat will the train do when there's traffic?OK, there are two problems with your post. First, I was not referring to the tracks along S. Main, but to the ones along Almeda Road. Second, the real question should be "WHat will the traffic do when there's trains?"The answer: they stop and wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirous Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Bear in mind that not only do they merge down to two, but for each exit to I-45 North and South, they merge down to one lane. Depending upon the time of day, one or the other are heavily used, but not necessarily both. You're right that the I-45 capacity needs to be upgraded as well, though.Inside the loop, they at least need to consider more efficient interchanges at Holcombe/OST and at North and South MacGregor. A flyover or two supporting TMC commuters would be very helpful and would also increase ambulance accessibility.That's what I meant. Merging down to two lanes means one in each direction. Both the NB and SB exits are actually built as two-lane connectors, but the Pierce Elevated is not wide enough to handle that capacity. If I-45 is widened by one lane in each direction, the backups on 288 NB will be reduced.As for the flyovers, that can be fixed... just build them, like Coit @ US75 in Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston1stWordOnTheMoon Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I do not wish to see 288 convert into a toll road, especially not during my school year; I commute to school using SH 288.Toll roads are stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDeb Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Toll roads are stupid! I love 'em! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumapayam Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 288 inside the Loop is adequate; they need to modernize the South Loop interchange, as well as widen it all the way out to Pearland. The damn builders wait until it is too late to widen roads. It still boggles my mind that a huge chunk of the Beltway 8 is 2 lanes, what was the point of that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 The damn builders wait until it is too late to widen roads. It still boggles my mind that a huge chunk of the Beltway 8 is 2 lanes, what was the point of that!!! Talk to HCTRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirous Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 The damn builders wait until it is too late to widen roads. It still boggles my mind that a huge chunk of the Beltway 8 is 2 lanes, what was the point of that!!! I hear ya, I hear ya. For 288, and for 288 alone, it shouldn't be a problem... the ROW is absolutely titanic. There's enough space in the median to fit 8-10 more lanes. The segment inside 610 will need to be expanded too though, if the Fort Bend Tollway is ever extended to S Post Oak. Most inbound traffic would prefer 288 over the constipated US59 interchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTrain Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 The interchange with I-45 is just fine. It's I-45 itself that needs help, as well as the downtown section of US59. The interchange backs up because I-45 backs up; four lanes of NB capacity is more than enough, if only they don't merge down to two in the end.288 inside the Loop is adequate; they need to modernize the South Loop interchange, as well as widen it all the way out to Pearland. What's wrong with the South Freeway/Loop interchange? I hope the modernization U R speaking of does not include replacing the guardrails because I'm sick and tired of seeing those sh**ty-ass looking concrete jersey rails that we're stuck with on 92% of the freeways forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirous Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 What's wrong with the South Freeway/Loop interchange? I hope the modernization U R speaking of does not include replacing the guardrails because I'm sick and tired of seeing those sh**ty-ass looking concrete jersey rails that we're stuck with on 92% of the freeways forever. Everything but the guardrails. For starters, how 288 SB gets squeezed to one side and down to two through lanes, and how the 610 EB to 288 NB connector is merged from two lanes to one. That must be expanded if the Fort Bend TW reaches S Post Oak. How about a straighter road with improved line-of-sight and geometries to speed up traffic, as well as reconfigured exits to reduce weaving. In other words, something like the 610/10 interchange, minus the rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Is 288 completed as a freeway yet down there? On Google Earth, 288 still has some cross streets from the Beltway, all the way down to Highway 6. Is it planned to be a full freeway down to Lake Jackson?I still think 288 alone is one of the best freeways in and out of Downtown. What they need to do now is remove those ridiculous pine trees they planted in the center over a year ago. Sooner or later they are going to have to use that center area for lane expansion. Cars will crash into them anyway as they have been doing on 45 south except they are palm trees getting mowed down. 288 is so wide and has lots of potential for more widening/metro/rail. This city is growing so fast that 16 lane freeways won't be far away. Like the 405 San Diego and Santa Monica FRWY in Los Angeles. Sooner or later we will see a rail going out to Pearland. Just like the BART system in SFO. There still is a clean slate/time to start planning. I foresee all that retail there now like Target, Penney's and Home Depot being moved maybe not tomorrow but in next 10-15 yrs. Developers/Strategists have their work cut out for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWSchultz Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 And a new Lowe's, Fingers, Macy's, and Dillard's to just name the big ones and nothing to say of the other 200+ stores going in between beltway8 and Southfork.288 is nearly a clean slate right now as was said. There is time to make 288 work right for Houston for 50 years. But that time is running short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternGulf Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Toll road proposed for 288 06:19 PM CST on Thursday, February 22, 2007By Wendell Edwards / 11 News Click to watch videoThe population explosion in Brazoria County has made rush hour traffic on highway 288 bumper to bumper. There could be some relief in sight in the form of a toll road, but it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Pearland should wake-up and join Metro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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