musicman Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 watching news and the've mentioned Glenbrook, Woodridge 610, and many areas along gulf freeway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 yeah, it's craptacular around here - i'll be staying home this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 yeah, it's craptacular around here - i'll be staying home this morning Ditto, I probably won't be working today. already went through two games of "homeworld" now I'm pondering lunch. since I eat out so often, I don't have anything at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 There is a plant or factory ingulfed in flames somewhere around the port...a news helicopter was circuling it, showing that and the flooded subdivisions. Ah yes....another installment of Chaos, disaster, and mayhem. Why is it that every year or two, we go thru a day or two of mayhem, and then carry on after that like nothing ever happened.I hope this is our installment for this summer, and that we dont get another big storm for at least a year. I can handle these things only about every 3 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 i only saw the coverage of the grain warehouse in pearland, and that looked awful so i tried to make it to work (and i did) but realized i just f*&ked any good chance of me getting home. all ways back were not passable, unless we get no more rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native_Houstonian Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Did anyone get water in their homes or was it just street flooding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Did anyone get water in their homes or was it just street flooding?in my area, there didn't seem to be anything other than street flooding (the major thoroughfare streets like telephone, park place/long, and the freeways).i know further south, closer to hobby airport, it was alot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexAmerican_Moose Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 i just do not get it...we have the mental capacity to build a nuclear weapon, but we still cannot build a good flood control system.....i guess it is because the rain fell so fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native_Houstonian Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 in my area, there didn't seem to be anything other than street flooding (the major thoroughfare streets like telephone, park place/long, and the freeways).i know further south, closer to hobby airport, it was alot worse.I have a friend that lives at Monroe and I-45, but I think they are out of town. I'm hoping he didn't get water in his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 19, 2006 Author Share Posted June 19, 2006 parents got some water. but floor was polished concrete. Only about a 2 square ft area though. Detached garage had massive flooding. next block over had numerous homes that flooded. freeway manor flooded. southcrest flooded. woodridge and 45south had about 5' of water under freeway. broadway and 610 people are saying that is the deepest. much of monroe, telephone, fuqua, edgebrook are still flooded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native_Houstonian Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 parents got some water. but floor was polished concrete. Only about a 2 square ft area though. Detached garage had massive flooding. next block over had numerous homes that flooded. freeway manor flooded. southcrest flooded. woodridge and 45south had about 5' of water under freeway. broadway and 610 people are saying that is the deepest. much of monroe, telephone, fuqua, edgebrook are still flooded.Freeway Manor? Is that Gulf Freeway Oaks? My friend's home is on Anacortes (about 5 blocks south of I-45 on Monroe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 i just do not get it...we have the mental capacity to build a nuclear weapon, but we still cannot build a good flood control system.....i guess it is because the rain fell so fastWe could easily build a better flood control system...all it takes is $$$. Lots of $$$. Billions of $$$...and that's just for the City of Houston. HCFCD could also easily spend Billions of $$$ to try to help the situation.Right now, the standard in Houston and Harris County is to design drainage systems (but not necessarily storm sewers) for the 100-year storm. That's a storm that statistically has a 1% chance of happening in any given year. Today's flooding is exacerbated by two issues: one, the rainfall at Gulfgate was greater than a 100-year storm, and two, drainage systems in our area have only been designed for the 100-year event since 1984, so there's a LOT of infrastructure that doesn't meet the current standard.According to the Chronicle, up to 10.7 inches of rain fell in 3 hours. According to the National Weather Service Technical Paper 40, a 3-hour 100-year storm event is 7 inches. 10.7 inches in TWELVE hours would have been a 100-year storm event (for a 12-hr duration)...obviously 10.7 inches in 3 hours is well above a 100-year event.HCFCD has been working pretty aggressively for a number of years now to improve flooding conditions in various watersheds. HCFCD has spent nearly $1 BILLION over the last 5 years in Capital Improvements, such as channel improvements, regional detention basins and other improvements.That being said, the biggest issue is generally not bayou capacity, but local infrastructure capacity...that is, on the street level: storm sewers and curb inlets, as well as the street grades. In general, anything built in Harris County before 1984 is not up to snuff, and that's being conservative. In reality, it was several years after 1984 that the criteria was actually implemented, and that's only for unincorporated Harris County...the City of Houston is a different story. I'm not certain when storm water detention requirements were implemented in Houston, but it was certainly after Harris County implemented it. Solving the local drainage infrastructure issue, on a street-by-street basis, will be massively expensive, as you can well imagine. HCFCD and the City of Houston are embarking on a drainage study right now to determine just how much drainage improvement that citizens are willing to pay for, and what level of service they expect (i.e., prevent all street flooding, or just prevent home flooding). Engineers can solve any problem...the question is, how much is our community willing to pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAK Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 rain started again here in inwood forest... 3:10pnot heavy yet, but it is rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Are they still predicting we'll get hit again tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 We lived off of Edgebrook for 18 years, in the Sun Valley subdivision. Anybody who knows that area knows that is is known for it's intense flooding. We just moved about 9 months ago. And guess what? Our old house made the news!!...it's surrounded by water...check it out:http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/slideShow?sect...4283776&slide=3Our old house is the one behind the trees. I think the water last night got up to the front porch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 19, 2006 Author Share Posted June 19, 2006 Freeway Manor? Is that Gulf Freeway Oaks? My friend's home is on Anacortes (about 5 blocks south of I-45 on Monroe).Nope. Gulf Freeway Oaks was hit hard as well. Monroe is STILL flooded from the freeway to Almeda Genoa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 We lived off of Edgebrook for 18 years, in the Sun Valley subdivision. Anybody who knows that area knows that is is known for it's intense flooding. We just moved about 9 months ago. And guess what? Our old house made the news!!...it's surrounded by water...check it out:http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/slideShow?sect...4283776&slide=3Our old house is the one behind the trees. I think the water last night got up to the front porch....My grandma lives right down the street from Freeman Elementary...the water was an inch away from going into her garage this morning.She had about an inch in her house during TS Allison.An aunt and uncle in South Houston were completely under water...the street, their yard, everything for blocks around was a good 1' or so under water. Luckily they're on pier and beam, so no water in the house.They also said this storm was very close to where it was during TS Allison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 i just do not get it...we have the mental capacity to build a nuclear weapon, but we still cannot build a good flood control system.....i guess it is because the rain fell so fastWe can build it. We can build anything to keep you safe from every possible situation. As long as you don't mind paying 95% of your income in taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I made it to work from Pecan Park ok, but had to detour quite a bit due to street flooding. The Brays under Lawndale was dangerously high in the morning. Idlywood people along McGregor were probably alert.I spoke to co-worker by phone this morning who lives in Glenbrook Valley, as do her sister and brother, all in separate houses, all on the lesser side (non-Sims Bayou side) of the subdivision. Her sister's car got flooded to the roof and supposedly a BMW was underwater on the Bayou side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalparadise Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 i just do not get it...we have the mental capacity to build a nuclear weapon, but we still cannot build a good flood control system.....i guess it is because the rain fell so fastPerhaps we could employ nukes to vaporize the rain in the air, before it hits the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I made it to work from Pecan Park ok, but had to detour quite a bit due to street flooding. The Brays under Lawndale was dangerously high in the morning. Idlywood people along McGregor were probably alert.I spoke to co-worker by phone this morning who lives in Glenbrook Valley, as do her sister and brother, all in separate houses, all on the lesser side (non-Sims Bayou side) of the subdivision. Her sister's car got flooded to the roof and supposedly a BMW was underwater on the Bayou side.My house in Glenbrook was high and dry. I don't think there was any water in houses on the lesser side. Right where the two cul-de-sacs of Stony Dell & Glen Dell intersect there is a real low spot. One of the houses has the garage underneath it. It got water (of course if your garage is built basically in a river bed...) and a couple built low into that ravine/gully got it too I think. There was also a couple built into a low spot on Dover that sort of sit in a "bowl," those got it but I think that was the extent of it. Sims never got close to the ones backing up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnu Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I went on Long and Telephone Road around Noon and saw water over the curb on pretty much every street in Golfcrest and some residents touring the area in boat.Also water was over Telephone Road up near Winkler and Broad. I also noticed water around the new Perry Home Plum Creek subdivison and those Village Way apartments. Dunno if it made it inside any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 that area by the park on long dr. between telephone and 610 was still underwater on the westbound side at 5:30 this evening...but it floods there all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolitx Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 My house in Glenbrook was high and dry. I don't think there was any water in houses on the lesser side. Right where the two cul-de-sacs of Stony Dell & Glen Dell intersect there is a real low spot. One of the houses has the garage underneath it. It got water (of course if your garage is built basically in a river bed...) and a couple built low into that ravine/gully got it too I think. There was also a couple built into a low spot on Dover that sort of sit in a "bowl," those got it but I think that was the extent of it. Sims never got close to the ones backing up to it.We got water up through the floors. Not flood water but had about an inch or so in a good part of the house. Spent all day pulling up padding and carpet in 3 rooms. Luckily I wanted to replace the carpet and flooring anyway but still not how I planned to spend my day.Rob tried to get to work since he's a firefighter but he flooded out his truck on Glen Valley. Not sure why he tried to leave since there was a gentleman parked in our driveway who had tried to get to work at the airport. He told Rob that we're surrounded and you can't get through. But Rob tried anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 We got water up through the floors. Not flood water but had about an inch or so in a good part of the house. Spent all day pulling up padding and carpet in 3 rooms. Luckily I wanted to replace the carpet and flooring anyway but still not how I planned to spend my day.Rob tried to get to work since he's a firefighter but he flooded out his truck on Glen Valley. Not sure why he tried to leave since there was a gentleman parked in our driveway who had tried to get to work at the airport. He told Rob that we're surrounded and you can't get through. But Rob tried anyway.Was it water rising up out of the street or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 We got water up through the floors. Not flood water but had about an inch or so in a good part of the house. Spent all day pulling up padding and carpet in 3 rooms. Luckily I wanted to replace the carpet and flooring anyway but still not how I planned to spend my day.Rob tried to get to work since he's a firefighter but he flooded out his truck on Glen Valley. Not sure why he tried to leave since there was a gentleman parked in our driveway who had tried to get to work at the airport. He told Rob that we're surrounded and you can't get through. But Rob tried anyway.May i ask where you were located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas911 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Just heard that HISD police station was flooded. What the heck, now does a city office get flooded after Allison? They had to transfer command to the county emergency offices. Waste waste waste waste waste. Thats HISD for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 As Allison been reincarnated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolitx Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 May i ask where you were located?I'm on Santa Elena near Broadway. The water appears to have come up from a crack in the foundation in one of our rooms. The street in front of our house was completely passable during the storm, the water in the house didn't come from that. So at least the water in the house was fairly clean. Now we just have to see if the Flood policy covers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 10.7 inches in TWELVE hours would have been a 100-year storm event (for a 12-hr duration)...obviously 10.7 inches in 3 hours is well above a 100-year event.good post, i was trying to explain this to some of my coworkers who were complaining. i like to bring up SoCal, where they're all from - considering a few inches there can cause havoc. my question is, if this was a 100-year storm, and 5 years ago we had a 1000-year storm, should they back and change the definition, leading to changing the standards that we build to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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