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Brasserie Du Parc is open for business. More pictures in the link below.   http://houston.eater.com/2017/1/30/14436692/houston-brasserie-du-parc-opening-photos  

Nate already got it but guess I'll still post it here too.   One Park Place by Marc longoria, on Flickr

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Looks untouched. Amazing!!! thanks for the photos!

That bodes well for future residents. It seems very sturdy. Had they put in any windows yet? And i must say, if H-Town was going to get an Alicia-like hit, i am glad it is now instead of a couple years down the road when MainPlace and Disco Tower have glass cladding in place.

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I am finding from personal stories of folks that I know, that most damage occured on the northside of buildings in Houston. It seems the strongest winds were coming from that direction.

I wonder if One Park Place did well because #1, it is blocked by 5 Houston Center and #2, it has a smaller North face.

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From the earlier photos it looks like most, if not all, of the windows were already in and survived the storm.

Duh, i feel stupid. Of course, on second look, most of the windows are in. Sorry, way too early when i posted. Not enough caffein in my system to communicate coherently. Sorry again.

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That bodes well for future residents. It seems very sturdy. Had they put in any windows yet? And i must say, if H-Town was going to get an Alicia-like hit, i am glad it is now instead of a couple years down the road when MainPlace and Disco Tower have glass cladding in place.

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Most new highrises have windows or curtainwall installed that are sturdy enough to withstand a major hurricane. The building formerly known as "The New Enron Building" (1500 Louisiana) was designed to remain fully safe and operable while in the eyewall of a Category 3 storm, for instance...Ike was only a strong Category 1 by the time it was over Houston.

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Most new highrises have windows or curtainwall installed that are sturdy enough to withstand a major hurricane. The building formerly known as "The New Enron Building" (1500 Louisiana) was designed to remain fully safe and operable while in the eyewall of a Category 3 storm, for instance...Ike was only a strong Category 1 by the time it was over Houston.

Not so. The pressure on Ike was still 952 mb as the western eyewall passed over downtown. Winds of 101 mph were reported just on the other side of downtown by an anamometer from TWC. Just above the surface (200-300 ft) had winds of 130-135 mph...a stanch category 4 hurricane. Not only did the pressure match that of a major, but the winds did as well. I'll go to my grave knowing this was a major Cat. 3 hurricane...period. The damage doesn't lie. Alicia had a pressure of 962 mb and she was labeled a Cat. 3. Now I know that Alicia was a much smaller hurricane thus the pressure gradient between the eye and the outer feeder bands was much steeper, making for stronger winds, but Ike caused much more destruction. It's wind field was larger than Katrina...a huge hurricane by any standard. As the eye was crossing the Bay, the eyewall contracted...the core of the colder cloud tops had complete surrounded the eye. Unlike a lot of hurricanes, Ike was strengthening as it made landfall. Much like an ice skater that brings his/hers arms in and they spin faster, the same with the eyewall when it contracts. It's an inverse relationship. When the pressure drops, the winds increase. The damage to Downtown Houston is extensive. I have not seen a lot of pictures from there, but Alicia looks to have caused a bit more window damage due to the gravel on top of the rooftops at that time.

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Not so. The pressure on Ike was still 952 mb as the western eyewall passed over downtown. Winds of 101 mph were reported just on the other side of downtown by an anamometer from TWC. Just above the surface (200-300 ft) had winds of 130-135 mph...a stanch category 4 hurricane. Not only did the pressure match that of a major, but the winds did as well. I'll go to my grave knowing this was a major Cat. 3 hurricane...period. The damage doesn't lie. Alicia had a pressure of 962 mb and she was labeled a Cat. 3. Now I know that Alicia was a much smaller hurricane thus the pressure gradient between the eye and the outer feeder bands was much steeper, making for stronger winds, but Ike caused much more destruction. It's wind field was larger than Katrina...a huge hurricane by any standard. As the eye was crossing the Bay, the eyewall contracted...the core of the colder cloud tops had complete surrounded the eye. Unlike a lot of hurricanes, Ike was strengthening as it made landfall. Much like an ice skater that brings his/hers arms in and they spin faster, the same with the eyewall when it contracts. It's an inverse relationship. When the pressure drops, the winds increase. The damage to Downtown Houston is extensive. I have not seen a lot of pictures from there, but Alicia looks to have caused a bit more window damage due to the gravel on top of the rooftops at that time.

Thanks for the analysis. It's good to have you back.

How was the storm for you? Pretty busy, I'd imagine. Any surprises that us weather nerds would find fascinating?

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Thanks for the analysis. It's good to have you back.

How was the storm for you? Pretty busy, I'd imagine. Any surprises that us weather nerds would find fascinating?

What a ride. This was the first hurricane I'd ever been through, and it will be the last. You can't truly respect the power of a hurricane until you've huddled in your bathroom for 8 hours scared to death the roof is going to peel off. Our neighborhood is a disaster. I've never seen so many trees snapped. Our neighbors house had not one, not two, but three pine trees fall through their house. We lost shingles, our tree and fence...and we're in the Spring/Woodlands area! We're without power still...as are many. I've secretly always wanted a hurricane to hit, but I've since changed my opinion. It's stressful both at work and at home. Thankfully, the tropics are quiet. At least it's cool outside for the clean up. Ironically enough its this cold front that came through that also brought us the hurricane. Ahhh, the wonderful world of weather......

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What a ride. This was the first hurricane I'd ever been through, and it will be the last. You can't truly respect the power of a hurricane until you've huddled in your bathroom for 8 hours scared to death the roof is going to peel off. Our neighborhood is a disaster. I've never seen so many trees snapped. Our neighbors house had not one, not two, but three pine trees fall through their house. We lost shingles, our tree and fence...and we're in the Spring/Woodlands area! We're without power still...as are many. I've secretly always wanted a hurricane to hit, but I've since changed my opinion. It's stressful both at work and at home. Thankfully, the tropics are quiet. At least it's cool outside for the clean up. Ironically enough its this cold front that came through that also brought us the hurricane. Ahhh, the wonderful world of weather......

Sounds like the destruction I saw in Northampton.

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wxman, can u explain how Alicia being a smaller storm made it stronger. I think what you were saying is that since it was smaller it was able to sustain a low pressure pretty much from the eye to the outer bands and since Ike was so large it did not have a low a pressure on the outer bands. Also is it true that Hurricane are a necessary evil as they transfer heat from one place to another thus sort of regulating global tempature? Also, what in the hell would make you secretly wish for a Hurricane to strike?

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wxman, can u explain how Alicia being a smaller storm made it stronger. I think what you were saying is that since it was smaller it was able to sustain a low pressure pretty much from the eye to the outer bands and since Ike was so large it did not have a low a pressure on the outer bands. Also is it true that Hurricane are a necessary evil as they transfer heat from one place to another thus sort of regulating global tempature? Also, what in the hell would make you secretly wish for a Hurricane to strike?

The same thing that makes some people want to jump out of airplanes... a sick excitement! ;)

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^^^Storm chasers get the same rush. i have to admit for my family, we all group at the northernmost point (the Woodlands) at one of my sister's large homes, grill the day before, grab candles and lanterns and tons of board and card games and have a good ole' time. Now, of course, i am sure this is not the case for those who actually lose their homes and such. So, in a way, i sort of understand where he is coming from.

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^^^Storm chasers get the same rush. i have to admit for my family, we all group at the northernmost point (the Woodlands) at one of my sister's large homes, grill the day before, grab candles and lanterns and tons of board and card games and have a good ole' time. Now, of course, i am sure this is not the case for those who actually lose their homes and such. So, in a way, i sort of understand where he is coming from.

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I would never want to see someone lose anything from a storm... but that doesn't keep me from loving a storm's power. I would never ever ever jump out of an airplane or go bungee jumping but I would have no problem putting myself in harms way a bit by chasing thunderstorms or traveling to where a hurricane is making landfall to witness it. :ph34r:

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i like it a lot. At first i thought it was dullsville, but the more it comes together, i like the contrast of its stone facade with the surrounding glass and steel scrapers. i especially am excited and curious about how it will blend with future scrapers in that area over the next decade or so. Is it just me or does this scraper look like it is from Atlanta? It just seems to have that deep south look to it; which is sort of cool, because H-town always seems to walk across the "am i south, am i south-west, am i ....what am i?" tightrope. What i find interesting is that in a couple of years, with the other highrises popping up around it, this building is going to "seem" to be built at a much earlier time period, IMHO.

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sadly...........I think they are pricing those apts. way out there.....I can't see it filling up with those prices.....lowest starting at $1400/month, and probably about 1 or 2 at that price.

These will rent. Their sister property, the Museum Tower, does very well and I have yet to see them run a special. There is always a market for a property as unique as this one.

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I agree that Finger will get their price. These will be top of the line and clearly the best rentals in downtown.

I'd be surprised if quite a few of downtown's larger companies didn't lock some of these up for their higher ups and out of town visitors. These would also be good places to make an impression on new recruits. Since we don't seem to be educating enough grads in Texas, recruitment from areas such as the Northeast and Cali are key. Offering up a swanky pad (that would cost upwards of $10,000-$20,000 in cities like SF, Boston, NYC, etc...) overlooking a vibrant park and a re-energized downtown within walking distance to the arts, MLB, NBA, and bars could go a long way in getting the best and brightest into town. That's my guess.

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You're very much on the ball. I once had the opportunity to lay eyes on Museum Tower's rent roll. The dearth of youthful tenants and the large number of foreign tenants was amazing. There aren't a whole lot of apartment buildings like these, anywhere in Houston.

Ditto. Of course the Museum Tower is in a great setting too... a stone's throw from Montrose, the Museum district, the Medical Center, and the rail line. We need Finger Co. to build more properties in Houston b/c they really encourage sustainable living.

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Seriously... expensive!

My biggest concern when I heard they would be building a residential tower downtown was the target price range. Of course I'm all for residential but I'm worried that if they overprice the units it will attract the type of people who won't acvtively contribute to downtown. I was hoping for just slightly more expensive than MidTown because those are working professionals and they will visit the park, the pavilions, the sports venues, main street etc. When you increase the rents you enter a group of people who are wealthy...true, but this may be a second residence to their weekend home in the surburbs. Or possiblythey make too much do identify with the working professional class which is what downtown will need to increase the momentum. Can you imagine someone making 500,000 a year as the average urban street contributer?

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Can you imagine someone making 500,000 a year as the average urban street contributer?

Citing average income levels is a little misleading. There are 808-square-foot units priced as low as about $1,485 per month, well within the price range of someone like myself (24yo, s/m, 2 undergrad degrees)...if I were so inclined. ...but I don't like the style of the building at all. The architecture is imitative and stodgy.

All the same, even someone (or more accurately, a household) making $500k per year isn't going to live in a vacuum up there. They'll probably eat out quite a bit more than someone like myself, and then at very nice restaurants.

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Citing average income levels is a little misleading. There are 808-square-foot units priced as low as about $1,485 per month, well within the price range of someone like myself (24yo, s/m, 2 undergrad degrees)...if I were so inclined. ...but I don't like the style of the building at all. The architecture is imitative and stodgy.

All the same, even someone (or more accurately, a household) making $500k per year isn't going to live in a vacuum up there. They'll probably eat out quite a bit more than someone like myself, and then at very nice restaurants.

:o Niche - Pardon my candor, but I took you for an old man. I'm shocked.

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:P You must have missed the version(s) of Red vs. Niche where the "half my age" comments came out!

I wouldn't be surprised if some HAIFers were under the impression that Red is a very youthful 80. :lol:

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You kids get off Niche's lawn.

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I agree that they will rent. The Museum Tower has no problem filling up at similar prices, so I doubt One Park Place will have problems either. Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt that the Finger Companies built OPP for the young urban professional crowd. There are plenty of $1400 apartment units in midtown for the rest of us.

but the young urban professional crowd is what we want.......those who will be goign to the bars constantly and dropping mad cash on jager bombs and clothing. Having more of us young professionals can also attract more shopping downtonw.

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I wouldn't be surprised if some HAIFers were under the impression that Red is a very youthful 80. :lol:

EDIT:

You kids get off Niche's lawn.

WHAT!!!!

Man, this is why you have to read every post. You never know when you are being insulted on an obscure topic.

Oh, and you NIMBY's get off my lawn, too! And take your crapping dogs with you! :D

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