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:-)  Actually, there are some good places to walk.  E.g., I like what they've done with McCue.  The main reason I am so conscious of the dangerous aspects of the area, for pedestrians, is because I live on one side of 610 and work on the other.  Experiencing that makes me more aware of how people who just exited the freeway apparently want to continue driving as fast as they can.

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Oh, and the "walk" signs on the 610 feeders are meaningless.  Pedestrians just have to wait for a gap in the traffic -- or the occasional courteous driver -- and run for it!

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I think making Uptown and Highland Village pedestrian friendly would be easy. Instead of, or in addition to those arches in Uptown, they could do some cool elevated crosswalks. At least at Post Oak and Westheimer. The biggest problem is crossing the streets. And at Highland Village, instea

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Sorry. To finish: instead of those cops that help you cross the street, an elevated crosswalk would make a world of difference. Then we wouldn't have to stop 200 cars for one pedestrian to cross.

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An elevated crosswlak in my opinon would be very tacky when problems like this could be solved the way other cities would do it. As in, add stripes to the road so that people know that pedestians cross there, reduce the speed limit etc.

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Oh, you guys and your "game changers" :-)  I apologize for teasing about that; i have similar feelings, but i have been through enough that i am a bit cynical.  

 

but, despite that, i think this area will develop into a cool place.  Despite the nay-sayers, I think it is good to have people who are outspoken about wanting their city to develop into a place that nurtures what is best in human beings. 

 

 

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I think it takes more than just orienting the buildings to the street to make an urban space. A good example of how things can change is the Cotswold project in the downtown historic district. First this is an area where the buildings already are oriented to the streets,

I mean how urban can you get in a downtown, however up until they overhauled all of the east west streets from Commerce to Texas it didn't have much of an urban feel. Granted when all of the occupants run around in the tunnels all day it never will feel really urban. My only complaint about the tunnels is that it keeps the streets empty.

Not until they addressed front end parking, took away two lanes of traffic, added trees and better lighting and useful signage did this part of town feel more urban and actually work for the businesses that operate on those streets. I know, I ran Cabos when it first opened and it changed the whole feel of that area.

I don't think that the Uptown area will ever be able to accomplish that frankly. Its just too spread out, with way too many parking lots. The thing about huge parking areas is there dangerous hard to get across and create great barriers that stifle walking.

Now if they say empty one or two and created a park, large plaza or a grand mall with gardens and fountains that might begin to help.

Except for the waterwall there is no open space that can serve as a park and thats unfortunate. There has never been a conscientious effort made to create that type of an atmosphere in Uptown. Its all about the car and the buildings not interaction and relaxation.

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I'll just say this. I know we all want things to be as pedestrian friendly as possible, but even in NYC drivers don't obey cross walks and speed limits. So as pedestrian friendly as NYC is, people complain about cars almost running them over. Trust me I've got plenty of friends from NYC who all tell me the same things. And they don't get why we are so worked up about some of our crossings not being as pedestrian friendly as others. And I agree, mainly because this is the city, and a lot of times its about being a bit of an jerk and demanding your right of way.

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Its not just about people getting hit.

Uptown isn't as pedestrian friendly because of how is was built.

1. Each building was built as a destination with little regard to what's next to it. Street level integration and activity is some foreign notion there.

2. The size of the lots makes getting from independent island to independent island harder.

3. Apart from getting hit, waking doesn't provide a visually appealing experience. Downtown for example is turning around with more of a push towards storefronts in New buildings. In uptown, you dodge cars, huge ugly parking lots, lots of blank walls. The trees do help though. Houston does trees well.

4. With all the residential around uptown, entertainment options are rather low. Abd not just stuff for adults. There is a shortage of parks and stuff for kids. Downtown has the aquarium, the zoo is a short two miles away on the rail, plus there are tons of parks all around.

Anyway as is Houston custom, there is nothing like uptown anywhere else in Texas. Are of or skylines are unique. Nothing as big with as many amenities as Downtown Houston anywhere in Texas. Nothing anywhere near TMC in Texas. And Uptown is just a beast. Driving down 610 that place already makes San Antonio look like a tiny town. If that thing fills in it will be a monster.

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I don't really understand the uptown/downtown bashing. Downtown is walkable and so is Uptown provided you looking both ways before you (run) cross the street. Downtown doesn't provide many options for a resident of downtown to walk to. I looked at living downtown but in Uptown I can walk to my gym, walk to the mall, walk to meet friend for drinks, and soon can walk to Whole Foods for my groceries. It's not perfect, nor will we all ever agree it is, but Uptown has a compelling mix of commercial, residential, and retail. Downtown hasn't been able to really get the residential/retail side of the equation right. They are both great developing areas and i hope both areas continue to see a lot of growth. Downtown also has the homeless issue to contend with that Uptown hasn't developed yet. I've always wondered why there aren't many homeless people around the Galleria. Do the cops force them out or something?

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Go west. There are plenty of homeless people along Westheimer/Richmond etc west of Uptown. 

And yes, downtown is more walkable than uptown, largely because of scale. Individual blocks are much, much smaller than Uptown, and they're laid out in a consistent, predictable grid. That makes it much easier to get between places, and to adjust your route if you change your mind after you've already started walking.

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Downtown doesn't provide many options for a resident of downtown to walk to. I looked at living downtown but in Uptown I can walk to my gym, walk to the mall, walk to meet friend for drinks, and soon can walk to Whole Foods for my groceries.

 

I guess it depends on what one wants to walk to.  In downtown, one can walk to one's gym, walk to meet friends for drinks, walk to Phoenicia for groceries, walk to church, walk to any number of performing arts performances pretty much any night, walk to Rockets games and concerts at Toyota Center, walk to MinuteMaid Park, walk to BBVA Compass Stadium, walk to Discovery Green, etc., etc..

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When I drove by yesterday, it appeared that Hanover has topped out. Does anyone know for sure?

 

I thought they still had about 10 more floors to go.

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Was looking for the existing thread on this... but could not find it...

 

Please feel free to merge

 

Does anyone have an update on this?

 

From my coworker, I heard they still are planning on building their own building.

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It has clearly been deleted or at least merged with the BLVD Place thread because when you go to the development list and click on the Apache Tower Hq, the link no longer works.

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The renderings these days are pretty good because that first photo looks just like one.

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we absolutely concur gene!  many of us have been awaiting new updates as per "blvd place" for quite some time now.  how far along are they with prospective tenant leases?  do they have a finalization of prospective tenants, or are they still searching?  what about tenants like "hermes" are they staying or are they moving to "river oaks district" as previously publicized?  what in the heck is going on as per the prospective "ritz carlton"?  are they in talks with another prospective hotel chain?  yes gene, we definitely concur.  this property is just too high profile as well cutting edge.....  not to have more direct news / updates available.  keep up the good fight our pal....   we are definitely backing you upon this venture.  monarch

 

 

haha yeah and old photos with the old pavilion in them are still up so those need to be changed...as well as update with the names of the new tenants and possible opening dates etc...i mean come on updating a site is more than just adding some new pics to old photo albums.... ;)

and they havent updated the news section since 10/20/2013

 

 

 


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Hermes is definitely moving to Highland Village unless all their employees are misinformed (as much as I hate to see that happen)

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Hermes is definitely moving to Highland Village unless all their employees are misinformed (as much as I hate to see that happen)

you mean River Oaks District?

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The Hanover building is turning into one of those rare cases where the building looks better than the renderings. The building has some really nice brick work going on.

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The Hanover building is turning into one of those rare cases where the building looks better than the renderings. The building has some really nice brick work going on.

 

Do you have any pictures of the nice brick work? From the view I have from my office it doesn't look all that great from afar.

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Do you have any pictures of the nice brick work? From the view I have from my office it doesn't look all that great from afar.

 

I don't, I was just noticing when I was driving by the other day. The are using light tan and almost black brick, and tehy are doing some sort of fins running vertically; looks nice.

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The flat south and east sides of the Hanover tower are being clad with what looks like light-colored brick, in combo with a dark brick-like surface.  The latter seems to echo similar material on the facades of the new buildings facing Post Oak.  OTOH, the curved side facing NE looks like it won't have much, if any, brick.  That's the side that most of the publicly distributed renderings have shown ... which is probably why the brick came as a surprise to us.  

 

In any case, the building is starting to look different than I expected.  I'm reserving judgement on whether I like it or not.

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Very inconsiderate of all this development getting in the way of your photos.

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