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ah, but can you really predict where you'll end up throughout the night? What if theres a taco truck? Or that guy who sells a dozen tamales for $8?

 

I walk right by them, and head over to El Rey for the Cuban Tacos.

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HUSA owns and manages all of the Sherlocks and Baker Streets. Local Pour in river oaks is a "joint venture" for HUSA and d'amicos so I expect this pizza venture to be something like that.

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I noticed a TABC Application Notice on a recently closed used car lot at Shepherd and 15th St.  Not that I care, but I thought this area was within the "dry" boundary.

 

The name is "Heights Beer Garden."  Its the orange building on the southwest corner, across from the Tortilla factory.  

 

Incidentally, I've noticed a number of the used car lots up and down Durham and Shepherd have closed recently.

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I noticed a TABC Application Notice on a recently closed used car lot at Shepherd and 15th St.  Not that I care, but I thought this area was within the "dry" boundary.

 

The name is "Heights Beer Garden."  Its the orange building on the southwest corner, across from the Tortilla factory.  

 

Incidentally, I've noticed a number of the used car lots up and down Durham and Shepherd have closed recently.

 

Dry area starts on W. 16th and Shep. 

 

Used car lots have been closing on Durham and Shep.  However, I do not think that it is because they are getting huge offers for their land.  I know of one used lot on Durham and 15th that is selling the land because they went bankrupt.  Land has been on the market for a few months.  The tote the note/wholesaler lots are big time wheeler dealers.  If they get upside down on a couple of car deals, their entire house of cards comes down pretty quickly. 

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The tote the note/wholesaler lots are big time wheeler dealers.  If they get upside down on a couple of car deals, their entire house of cards comes down pretty quickly. 

 

I am sure that you are an expert on this industry. However, most of these dealers sell on a weekly payment plan with high interest rates. It is nearly impossible for them to "get upside down on a couple of car deals", as they will have the car repo'd before it is a month overdue. Many even put ignition locks on them. If a borrower gets behind, the car locks up.

 

I suspect that you just made this up.

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Yep.  I know a guy who owns one of those...  it makes plenty of money, enough to where his only intrest for selling the lot is to buy another where he would have more space for more cars.  A lot of the ones that are closing and selling are popping up somewhere else in a cheaper location.  They use the profit off the land sell to purchase more inventory.

 

 

If they rent the property there is no incentive to move, and unless they stop paying rent there isn't much incentive to sell the land as it will just keep on appreciating.

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I noticed a TABC Application Notice on a recently closed used car lot at Shepherd and 15th St.  Not that I care, but I thought this area was within the "dry" boundary.

 

The name is "Heights Beer Garden."  Its the orange building on the southwest corner, across from the Tortilla factory.  

 

Incidentally, I've noticed a number of the used car lots up and down Durham and Shepherd have closed recently.

 

 

Shepherd is "wet" south of 16th and north of 26th.

 

There is a helpful map of the dry area here.

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Shepherd is "wet" south of 16th and north of 26th.

 

There is a helpful map of the dry area here.

 

That's a helpful map, but it's off by a block on the eastern boundary - should be Oxford.  You can use Onion Creek as a  guidepost

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I heard on the radio this morning that there was a "popular" restaurant in the Heights that is now banning families with children after 7pm from dining with them.  They did not name the restaurant or really explain the policy, but I am curious what place it is, and what the policy really is?  When the clock strikes 7 are they handing families their checks, are they just not sitting new parties with families after 7?  

 

I am really curious as it seems to me that nearly every new resident in the Heights is a family with children or two a couple who is likely to soon have children, so unless its a very nice upscale restaurant, or a bar more than a restaurant, it seems to me to be a move that is likely to isolate quite a bit of its customer base. 

 

With that said I am 100% for allowing a restaurant to serve the demographic they want.  I have zero problem with it and I am not going to attempt to question their reasoning, its their business they can and should do whatever they want...I just was curious as to the place and the policy.

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I heard on the radio this morning that there was a "popular" restaurant in the Heights that is now banning families with children after 7pm from dining with them.  They did not name the restaurant or really explain the policy, but I am curious what place it is, and what the policy really is?  When the clock strikes 7 are they handing families their checks, are they just not sitting new parties with families after 7?  

 

I am really curious as it seems to me that nearly every new resident in the Heights is a family with children or two a couple who is likely to soon have children, so unless its a very nice upscale restaurant, or a bar more than a restaurant, it seems to me to be a move that is likely to isolate quite a bit of its customer base. 

 

With that said I am 100% for allowing a restaurant to serve the demographic they want.  I have zero problem with it and I am not going to attempt to question their reasoning, its their business they can and should do whatever they want...I just was curious as to the place and the policy.

 

La Fisheria.  http://houston.culturemap.com/news/food/08-06-13-bring-kids-no-service-houston-restaurant-bans-children-at-night/

 

 

They do not seat people with children under 8 after 7 pm.  The chef is a celebrity in Mexico.  I think the restaurant became popular for big family gatherings/celebrations as it is fairly high end, has a celebrity chef, but is still has relatively accessible food that will please most tastes.  Whenever you do a big dinner like that with kids, the service gets slow and the kids get squirmy.  I think they will do fine with the people who want to have a night out on the town.  But, they may seriously alienate people who would have otherwise brought the family and dined before 7 pm.  This sort of thing really sets off the Heights mommy mafia.

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Well Ive never been to it and b/c of the policy I doubt I ever will....its not that the policy offends me, b/c it does not...its just that if I want a nice dinner out, I am sure as heck am not going out for mexican food....When I dine out without the kids I much prefer to goto places that serve food that I can't get at most other places I go regularly with kids...also while Im not a chef, or even a good cook, I am pretty capable of making good mexican food - so mexican food is pretty much my absolute last choice when out and about.

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Well Ive never been to it and b/c of the policy I doubt I ever will....its not that the policy offends me, b/c it does not...its just that if I want a nice dinner out, I am sure as heck am not going out for mexican food....When I dine out without the kids I much prefer to goto places that serve food that I can't get at most other places I go regularly with kids...also while Im not a chef, or even a good cook, I am pretty capable of making good mexican food - so mexican food is pretty much my absolute last choice when out and about.

 

It is really a high end seafood restaurant much more than a traditional Mexican restaurant.  More like if Hugo's and Reef merged than El Tiempo or the Original Ninfas on Navigation.  I have been and had lobster tail over red beet risotto.  Wife had snapper Veracruz.  You can get similar snapper dishes at Mexican restaurants, but no where near the quality.  You certainly cannot get the lobster dish.  The restaurant is very good.  There are definitely better places in Houston, but it is worth a try and is something unique.

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Christians changes coming, word is owner sold out to SherlocKk's,all sites except old quik stop....more live music on White Oak...

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In some ways that would be a good change, as Christian's clientele has dropped off a bit. In other ways Sherlock's is not much better.

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Christians changes coming, word is owner sold out to SherlocKk's,all sites except old quik stop....more live music on White Oak...

 

I heard this last night as well.  So he is keeping the original Christians Totem on Washington and I10?  My source said the name is being sold along with the businesses.

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I heard this last night as well.  So he is keeping the original Christians Totem on Washington and I10?  My source said the name is being sold along with the businesses.

 

Last week I heard they all were sold, but that was fourth-hand and slurred.  Then I checked with a business associate of Steve (Christians owner) and Steve told him he was keeping the Totem because all his friends drink there.  When I first moved here in 1991, staying out 290, it was Ken's Totem, a perfect stop for a tall boy before getting on the 290 HOV on Old Katy Road, pre-open container law.

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Well Ive never been to it and b/c of the policy I doubt I ever will....its not that the policy offends me, b/c it does not...its just that if I want a nice dinner out, I am sure as heck am not going out for mexican food....When I dine out without the kids I much prefer to goto places that serve food that I can't get at most other places I go regularly with kids...also while Im not a chef, or even a good cook, I am pretty capable of making good mexican food - so mexican food is pretty much my absolute last choice when out and about.

 

How late do you take 7 year olds to dinner?

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Well Ive never been to it and b/c of the policy I doubt I ever will....its not that the policy offends me, b/c it does not...its just that if I want a nice dinner out, I am sure as heck am not going out for mexican food....When I dine out without the kids I much prefer to goto places that serve food that I can't get at most other places I go regularly with kids...also while Im not a chef, or even a good cook, I am pretty capable of making good mexican food - so mexican food is pretty much my absolute last choice when out and about.

me thinks you are not at all familiar with the cuisine being served there.

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How late do you take 7 year olds to dinner?

 

I've never even tried to eat out with my kids after 6pm.  My kids wake up at 5:30am, and goto sleep at 8.  Starting a dinner out after 6 with my kids would be a disaster and I would never do that to myself, or other diners.

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I've never even tried to eat out with my kids after 6pm.  My kids wake up at 5:30am, and goto sleep at 8.  Starting a dinner out after 6 with my kids would be a disaster and I would never do that to myself, or other diners.

 

Well then, I don't see why you wouldn't go to the restaurant as the policy only applies after 7 PM.

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http://theheightslifehouston.blogspot.com/2013/08/undici-undici-studewood-piatto-comes-to.html

Heights Life spotted a booze application for Piatto at 1111 Studewood. For what it is worth, Union Kitchen posted a booze app and still bailed. But, given the growth in the neighborhood, you would think that this one would stick, especially now that it looks like the three year odyssey of building a small multifamily condo building is finally coming to a close.

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3 years?  Did you even live here 3 years ago.  It was about 2.5 years ago when they first started breaking ground on this project.  While I agree that it has taken a very long time, I find your slant on the property hilarious.  You say "small multifamily condo" to exaggerate the timeline, when you've previously said something along the lines of huge, out of scale, will shade the neighbors, etc.  Union Kitched bailed for many reasons (one of them reportedly due to the delay in finishing out the building which makes a lot of sense).  This post is a great example of s3mh being s3mh.

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Well then, I don't see why you wouldn't go to the restaurant as the policy only applies after 7 PM.

 

I just choose not to go out for Mexican food when its a night out.  I can get good Mexican anywhere...I don't need to goto "upscale" Mexican food.  Its like "upscale" BBQ...its not better, it just costs more.

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I just choose not to go out for Mexican food when its a night out.  I can get good Mexican anywhere...I don't need to goto "upscale" Mexican food.  Its like "upscale" BBQ...its not better, it just costs more.

 

To each their own I suppose... but comparing Teotihuican (which I like) to Hugo's (upscale) as being anything close to similar is completely wrong. 

 

 

upscale can = more than just costing more.

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I just choose not to go out for Mexican food when its a night out.  I can get good Mexican anywhere...I don't need to goto "upscale" Mexican food.  Its like "upscale" BBQ...its not better, it just costs more.

 

You said you doubt you'll ever go because of the policy.

 

 

Well Ive never been to it and b/c of the policy I doubt I ever will

 

The policy has no effect on you because it only prohibits children during a time you wouldn't take them anyway.

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You said you doubt you'll ever go because of the policy.

 

 

 

The policy has no effect on you because it only prohibits children during a time you wouldn't take them anyway.

 

Poor writing on my part...I meant to say but not b/c of the policy...the policy does not bother me in the least.  I prefer to dine out without the presence of my kids, but that is not always an option, so if I have the kids in tow, we goto cheaper places where I can let them move about and its acceptable....We goto Berry Hill at 5:30 on the patio, or even more often we will goto Misson Burrito b/c they have a very small playground.

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Whew guys . . . cool it.  We're not discussing some life or death issue here.  Whether or not MarkSMU chooses to dine at Mexican restaurants has no bearing on, well, anything!  I don't give a rat's ass if his comments have some holes in them.  The issues are tangential at best to anything seriously being discussed here.

 

Mark - go enjoy whatever meal at whatever restaurant you choose. 

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yay BEER!   Maybe they can capture the feel that Onion Creek used to have before they started serving liqour.  Lack of RedBull and Vodka keeps a certain type of d-bag away.   Shortly after OC started serving liqour you saw an increase of those types of people (dude bros), in large groups always standing/blocking the doors to get in to the bar, being overly loud and obnoxious. 

 

I still like going to OC and they probably made the right financial move, I just personally like beer joints more  (like D&T)

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Whew guys . . . cool it. We're not discussing some life or death issue here.

Such as....is it walkable? If so, does the restaurant have a shoe tree adequate enough to handle the 6pm rush hour, or will patrons be forced to leave their shoes on neighborhood sidewalks resulting in a decrease in available walking space and a backup of patrons onto the aging and inadequate sidewalk infrastructure?

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http://treadsack.com/news/foreign-correspondents/

 

The plans now include a farm to table Thai restaurant to share the same property as Hunky Dory. 

 

 Either  "Hunky Dory" and "farm to table Thai" in the same phrase  is good  satire  or we're doomed by our own pretentiousness in one square block.

I'm putting a bird on it.

 

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Actually, farm to table Thai makes lots of sense in Houston.  A lot of Asian vegetables grow well in Houston's hot and wet climate.  Eggplant, basil, chilies, yardlong beans, clinatro, lemon grass, mint, sweet potato, and Chinese kale are some examples of typical Thai vegetables and herbs that grow well in Houston.  Even jasmine rice, used in Thai rice noodles, is grown in Texas. 

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Actually, farm to table Thai makes lots of sense in Houston.  A lot of Asian vegetables grow well in Houston's hot and wet climate.  Eggplant, basil, chilies, yardlong beans, clinatro, lemon grass, mint, sweet potato, and Chinese kale are some examples of typical Thai vegetables and herbs that grow well in Houston.  Even jasmine rice, used in Thai rice noodles, is grown in Texas. 

 

 

I agree. (WHAT!!!!)

 

 

I grow lemongrass, thai basil, chilies, mint, chinese mustard greens, and I have a kafir lime tree myself.  (most of my incredients I originally got for making my own Tom Yum Goon soup, which I admittedly hardly ever make anymore). 

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Waldo's coffee house is becoming Boulevard Coffee.  They are renovating to add a bakery and more outdoor seating.  https://www.facebook.com/heightsblvdcoffee


 


Waldo's was nice, but not up to the quality of Boomtown, Revival or Catalina.  But, Waldo's did open up back when no one was interested in the Heights and was a nice place to stop on walks along Heights Blvd during the cool season.


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i saw a few good blues bands play at Waldos, great experiences there, but the coffee was just mediocre.  I'm really looking forward this change.

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Not this morning, but I had dinner there tonight. It was still packed at 9:30. That stretch of 19th used to be essentially deserted later in the evening, but that's about to change. 

 

Nice to see the old Harold's sign hanging inside, and one of the employees told us they were going to be getting some additional Harold's memorabilia (photos, etc.) soon. 

 

They have a full bar that extends out into the front patio area, which is pretty nice now that it's no longer the hottest part of the summer. Mostly a hipster crowd, as expected, but that will probably vary depending on the time of day. 

 

The only other location I've been to is the one in the Village, and I like the build-out better at this one. 

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Chron reports that the chicken and doughnut place by the Liberty Kitchen folks will start building out/renovating this month and hope to be open next month.

 

http://www.chron.com/entertainment/restaurants-bars/article/BRC-Gastropub-broadening-its-brand-4879335.php?cmpid=entertainmenthcat

 

Heights General Store is shooting for early November opening.  Fat Cat Creamery is mostly finished, but has some utility issues to resolve.  Things are plugging away at the Coltivare location, but no promises made on opening.  I could see them getting opened before the holidays.  Good Dog is shooting for an October opening. 

 

Add in Torchy's and we will have a half dozen new places to eat open potentially by the end of the year.  Not too shabby.

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Cricket's 2.0 closed.  A sign on the door hints at some sort of reboot/renovation, but I have not heard anything further.  The original Crickets was quirky and in no way a James Beard contender.  But, it had a very unique vegetarian menu with some good dishes that you could not get anywhere else.  It was also just a fun place inside, especially with kids.  The successor seemed to just suck all the life out of it, leaving the interior devoid of anything on the walls and putting out a very uninspired new menu.    While there are more than enough people in the Heights to support more restaurants on 19th, the location in and of itself does not guarantee success.  Hopefully, the reboot will be much better or someone else will come along and do something good with that space.

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