Houston Texans

[houstonsemipro]

Why would Troy go to the Cardinals? They have Matt Leinhart. RB's can wait for

I said Cardinals, OR Raiders. But I think he would fit the Raiders better. They in need for a quarterback.

I think Texans would go after Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, or a vertern Jake Plummer.

NOTE: Jake Plummer knows the same system Kubiak installed.

Edited December 14, 2006 by houstonsemipro

[Mark F. Barnes]

WhatchutalkinboutWillis ?

[DJ V Lawrence]

I said Cardinals, OR Raiders. But I think he would fit the Raiders better. They in need for a quarterback.

I think Texans would go after Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, or a vertern Jake Plummer.

NOTE: Jake Plummer knows the same system Kubiak installed.

The only starting QB I could see te Texans go after is Plummer. After that, none. Perhaps in round 3 or 4, the Texans could go after another backup QB to groom, but the Texans have needs other than QB that need to be improved immediately. Drafting a new starting QB now will mean doing the same thing we're currently doing with Williams; teaching him the ropes so that 3-4 years from now, he'll be great (that's the idea, but we'll have 2 wait until then to see if his drafting over Young and Bush were worth it). THE TEXANS DON'T HAVE TIME TO WAIT THAT LONG. They need some new bodies that can help the Texans become a .500 team NEXT year. Perhaps another DL in the 2nd round. Perhaps a CONSISTANTLY PROVEN OL or CONSISTANTLY PROVEN RB in the 1st round like Peterson if he were still available. But the Texans don't have another year to "build". They need a playoff-possible record if they want to remain in the top 5 highest-worth teams in the NFL (a couple years ago, they were #2. Now they're #4). That doesn't mean much to some, but that's the ONLY positive thing the Texans are in the top 5 in right now

[TJones]

WhatchitalkinboutApu ?

DJ, I think you go after the "impact" player that everyone else might grab THIS time, Then start grabbing the O-linemen and such, and use Brady or Troy as trade bait for better linemen and a possible RB to be named later.

Edited December 14, 2006 by TJones

[DJ V Lawrence]

DJ, I think you go after the "impact" player that everyone else might grab THIS time, Then start grabbing the O-linemen and such, and use Brady or Troy as trade bait for better linemen and a possible RB to be named later.

I say oye oye oye to that as well. Using strategy. I like that. What I didn't understand was why there was no strategy used in 2006's draft. Williams would NOT have been the first pick if the Texans traded down. We could have had more talent while picking up Williams if we were so sure he would have made a bigger impact than Bush or Young.

[TJones]

I say oye oye oye to that as well. Using strategy. I like that. What I didn't understand was why there was no strategy used in 2006's draft. Williams would NOT have been the first pick if the Texans traded down. We could have had more talent while picking up Williams if we were so sure he would have made a bigger impact than Bush or Young.

What I believe Kubiak's thinking to be last year was that he was positive that he had a QB with all the tools needed to get the job done, I think we had already picked up Ron Dayne(Heisman winner) at that time also to back up Dominick if he couldn't play. Kubiak believed he could work with what he had as far as offense went, AT THAT TIME. So, he concentrated on a foundation for a defense which he felt was weak. I can't say I agreed with Kubiak on going defense first, but it isn't "unheard of" to go with a Defensive player in the first 3 picks of the first round. I personally think he should have grabbed Bush to replace Dominick, and used Dom as a trade bait and loosen up some money for some real decent O-linemen, and we probably still would have had a good chance to get Mario when our turn came around again.

[houstonsemipro]

Here an outlook on the 2007 NFL Free Agents...

QB's

Matt Schaub, RFA, Atlanta Falcons

Chris Simms, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Damon Huard, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs

Rohan Davey, RFA, Arizona Cardinals

Shaun King, UFA, Indianapolis Colts

John Navarre, RFA, Arizona Cardinals

Tim Rattay, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Anthony Wright, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals

RB's

Ahman Green, UFA, Green Bay Packers

Michael Turner, RFA, San Diego Chargers

Chris Brown, UFA, Tennessee Titans (did the Texans looked at Chris during the offseason before?)

Correll Buckhalter, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles

Najeh Davenport, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers

Nick Goings, UFA, Carolina Panthers

Maurice Hicks, RFA, San Francisco 49ers

Patrick Pass, UFA, New England Patriots

B.J. Sams, RFA, Baltimore Ravens

Marcel Shipp, UFA, Arizona Cardinals

Antowain Smith, UFA, Houston Texans

WR's

Drew Bennett, UFA, Tennessee Titans

Kevin Curtis, UFA, St. Louis Rams

Patrick Crayton, RFA, Dallas Cowboys

TE Eric Johnson, UFA, San Francisco 49ers

Marc Boerigter, UFA, Green Bay Packers

David Boston, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Tyrone Calico, UFA, Tennessee Titans

Andre' Davis, UFA, Buffalo Bills

Bobby Engram, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Justin Gage, UFA, Chicago Bears

D.J. Hackett, RFA, Seattle Seahawks

Keenan McCardell, UFA, San Diego Chargers

Shaun McDonald, UFA, St. Louis Rams

Samie Parker, RFA, Kansas City Chiefs

Jerome Pathon, UFA, Atlanta Falcons

Willie Ponder, UFA, New York Giants

Edell Shepherd, RFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Travis Taylor, UFA, Minnesota Vikings

Scottie Vines, RFA, Detroit Lions

Bobby Wade, UFA, Tennessee Titans

Peter Warrick, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Kelley Washington, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals

Alvis Whitted, UFA, Oakland Raiders

Ernest Wilford, RFA, Jacksonville Jaguars

Kyle Brady, UFA, Jacksonville Jaguars

Daniel Graham, UFA, New England Patriots

Ben Hartsock, RFA, Indianapolis Colts

Zach Hilton, UFA, New York Jets

Reggie Kelly, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals

Jerramy Stevens, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Boo Williams, UFA, New York Giants

OL's

Max Starks RFA Pittsburgh Steelers

Leonard Davis UFA Arizona Cardinals

Mike Gandy, UFA, Buffalo Bills

Eric Steinbach, UFA, Bengals

Jordan Black, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs

Dwayne Carswell, UFA, Denver Broncos

Derrick Dockery, UFA, Washington Redskins

Nat Dorsey, RFA, Cleveland Browns

Chris Gray, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Norm Katnik, RFA, New York Jets

Ryan Lilja, RFA, Indianapolis Colts

Sean Locklear, RFA, Seattle Seahawks

Vincent Manuwai, UFA, Jacksonville Jaguars

Roman Oben, UFA, San Diego Chargers

Brian Rimpf, RFA, Baltimore Ravens

Eric Steinbach, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals

Todd Steussie, UFA, St. Louis Rams

Floyd Womack, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Kris Dielman, UFA, San Diego

Damion McIntosh, UFA, Miami Dolphins

DL's

Dwight Freeney, UFA, Indianapolis Colts(imagine Texans get's this guy?)

Jared Allen, RFA, Kansas City Chiefs

Vonnie Holliday, UFA, Miami Dolphins

Terdell Sands UFA Oakland Raiders

Justin Smith, UFA, Bengals

Edward Jasper, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles

Chad Lavalais, RFA, Atlanta Falcons

Cory Redding, UFA, Detroit Lions

Hollis Thomas, UFA, New Orleans Saints

Robaire Smith, UFA, Tennessee Titans

Bryan Thomas, UFA, New York Jets

Michael Myers, UFA, Denver Broncos

LB's

Lance Briggs, UFA, Chicago Bears

Na'il Diggs, UFA, Carolina Panthers

Cato June, UFA, Indianapolis Colts(imagine this guy a Texan?)

Adalius Thomas, UFA, Baltimore Ravens

London Fletcher UFA Buffalo Bills

Chase Blackburn, ERFA, New York Giants

Chad Brown, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers

James Darling, UFA, Arizona Cardinals

Randall Godfrey, UFA, San Diego Chargers

Kawika Mitchell, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs

Rob Morris, UFA, Indianapolis Colts

DB's

Nate Clements, UFA, Buffalo Bills(he will put a spark into the Texans secondary)

Asante Samuel UFA New England Patriots

Ken Hamlin, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Tyrone Carter, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers

Deon Grant, UFA, Jacksonville Jaguars

Michael Lewis, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles

Donnie Nickey, UFA, Tennessee Titans

Tony Parrish, UFA, San Francisco 49ers

Ernest Shazor, ERFA, Arizona Cardinals

B.J. Ward, RFA, Baltimore Ravens

Gibril Wilson, RFA, New York Giants

Michael Lewis, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles

Jordan Babineaux, RFA, Seattle Seahawks

Jason David, RFA, Indianapolis Colts

Randall Gay, RFA, New England Patriots

Nick Harper, UFA, Indianapolis Colts

David Macklin, UFA, Arizona Cardinals

Kicker's(do anyone think the Texans needs another kicker? I think they do)

Josh Brown, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Rian Lindell, UFA, Buffalo Bills

Josh Scobee, RFA, Jacksonville Jaguars

Lawrence Tynes, RFA, Kansas City Chiefs

Michael Koenen, ERFA, Atlanta Falcons

Matt Turk, UFA, St. Louis Rams

[DJ V Lawrence]

What I believe Kubiak's thinking to be last year was that he was positive that he had a QB with all the tools needed to get the job done, I think we had already picked up Ron Dayne(Heisman winner) at that time also to back up Dominick if he couldn't play. Kubiak believed he could work with what he had as far as offense went, AT THAT TIME. So, he concentrated on a foundation for a defense which he felt was weak. I can't say I agreed with Kubiak on going defense first, but it isn't "unheard of" to go with a Defensive player in the first 3 picks of the first round. I personally think he should have grabbed Bush to replace Dominick, and used Dom as a trade bait and loosen up some money for some real decent O-linemen, and we probably still would have had a good chance to get Mario when our turn came around again.

Demeco Ryans seems to have made a bigger impact this season than Mario Williams. Is that a fair statement?

[TJones]

Out of that whole list, only person I can see trying to get is Drew (Sure Hands) Bennett.

Demeco Ryans seems to have made a bigger impact this season than Mario Williams. Is that a fair statement?

Absolutely, but Demeco hasn't been getting double teamed all season either. He has turned out to be a fireplug for the Texan Defense though. Like I said Kubiak didn't take Williams as an impact player, it was totally leftfield to choose him, but it has paid off somewhat in that the Texan D is one of the tougher ones (against the run) although the stats don't show it, because offenses key on Williams and leaves gaps for others like Demeco to plow through.

Edited December 14, 2006 by TJones

[Mark F. Barnes]

With all the so called experts saying Houston appears to be the perfect whipping boy for the Pats. I am getting a funny feeling there may be an upset in Gillette Stadium. Mark my words, it will not be a blowout by the Pats, they may even get their hat brought to them!

[Trae]

Out of that whole list, only person I can see trying to get is Drew (Sure Hands) Bennett.

Absolutely, but Demeco hasn't been getting double teamed all season either. He has turned out to be a fireplug for the Texan Defense though. Like I said Kubiak didn't take Williams as an impact player, it was totally leftfield to choose him, but it has paid off somewhat in that the Texan D is one of the tougher ones (against the run) although the stats don't show it, because offenses key on Williams and leaves gaps for others like Demeco to plow through.

People fail to reliaize that Mario has a bad foot injury. I forgot what it is called, but it starts with a "p." Imagine playing defensive end with one foot (I know I can't imagine that). That is what he is playing with. This type of injury is one that takes a month to heal, so you would have to be off of that foot for a month. I think he should sit the rest of the season out, and wait until this offseason to continue.

[J.A.S.O.N.]

Does anyone know when LSU's Jamarcus Russell is entering the draft?

[houstonsemipro]

Texans don't have a prayer against Tom Brady & Co.

[Guest Marty]

Texans don't have a prayer against Tom Brady & Co.

Brady is distracted by the break up with his gal >

[Mark F. Barnes]

Texans don't have a prayer against Tom Brady & Co.

Edited December 17, 2006 by Mark F. Barnes

[Mark F. Barnes]

People fail to reliaize that Mario has a bad foot injury. I forgot what it is called, but it starts with a "p." Imagine playing defensive end with one foot (I know I can't imagine that). That is what he is playing with. This type of injury is one that takes a month to heal, so you would have to be off of that foot for a month. I think he should sit the rest of the season out, and wait until this offseason to continue.

Top draft pick Mario Williams has had plenty of trouble with his feet this year and probably wishes he could buy new ones with all that money he got from the Texans on the eve of the draft. During the summer, Mario had problems with his toenails so he had some of them removed. Being a football player, Williams probably has a high pain threshhold. I think I would have needed general anesthesia to endure the pain of such a procedure. Now, midway through the season, Williams has been diagnosed with "plantar fasciitis", which sounds like something that affects people who spend too much time gardening. Physics I can talk about, Physician no I am not. So I went to the trusty internet to find out what the hell "plantar fasciitis" is and how long poor Mario must suffer with it. After redirects to several porn sites and foot fetishists, I came across "ourfootdoctor.com" which definies plantar fasciitis this way:

"Plantar fasciitis is an inflammation of the plantar fascia. The plantar fascia is a thick ligamentous/fibrous band on the bottom of the foot that is attached to the heel, and runs forward to insert into the ball of the foot. Plantar fasciitis is a painful inflammation of this band, which usually occurs at its attachment to the heel; however, the inflammation and pain of plantar fasciitis can occur anywhere on the plantar fascia."

It goes on to say:

"The chief diagnostic sign of this problem is pain in the bottom of the heel or arch when first standing, which gradually improves with walking. This pain may later return with continued walking. The pain usually subsides after a period of rest."

So I think in other words, there's a tissue that connects the heel of your foot to the ball of the foot and it can become sore from overuse or improper pressure placed on the feet while walking. It's a problem one would expect from people who spend a lot of their day standing and walking, such as waitresses and door-to-door salesmen. You would think it's an occupational hazard to have sore feet when your job description is to rush around 320-lb. behemoths who will do anything to stop you. Would you want Flozell Adams waltzing on your Reeboks? But you can't blame plantar fasciitis on offensive linemen. Most likely, it's caused by not evenly distributing the weight on your feet. This could be from bad shoes or from planting your heel when you step rather than walking evenly on your feet or putting the toes down first. I doubt anyone is going to teach Mario how to walk. When the ball is snapped, we want him concentrating on where to find the ballcarrier rather than how to step pain-free. While there are splints and exercises that can assist you, there is no type of corrective surgery for this. Mario is not likely to miss any time with this malady but he will have to fight through the pain until it subsides. Perhaps the Texans should consider putting Dr. Scholls on the payroll to help out Williams and fellow tenderfoot Jerome Mathis. It wouldn't surprise me if there are more sore feet in the Texans' locker room but these two are the only ones getting ink about it. Hopefully, soon we can hear about Mario planting faces of opposing quarterbacks again and less about plantars fascia. But at least I got to learn about a different body part other than knee ligaments and shoulder joints.

[houstonsemipro]

What I told y'all. The Texans don't have a chance in hell on beating New England. I mean look at the score, 40-7.

David Carr has to go! No questions asked. This man SUCKS! If I were Kubiak I'll start the rookie quarterback in these last remaining two games.

[Guest Marty]

I don't know which hurts worse dropping a large Mayonnaise jar on your foot or watching this game.

[Mark F. Barnes]

I don't know which hurts worse dropping a large Mayonnaise jar on your foot or watching this game.

watching this game

[DJ V Lawrence]

Not to offend those tired of hearing about Willams/Bush/Young, but the Saints earlier today clinched a playoff spot (even though they lost). The Titans won today and are 7-7, and their playoff hopes are very much alive since they beat the Jaguars. The Texans are, um, at the bottom of their division

Only good thing though is that we're twice as good as we were last season

[Trae]

It is not going to happen in the AFC (for the Titans).

[Mark F. Barnes]

Boy, talk about a morgue!

[J.A.S.O.N.]

What I told y'all. The Texans don't have a chance in hell on beating New England. I mean look at the score, 40-7.

David Carr has to go! No questions asked. This man SUCKS! If I were Kubiak I'll start the rookie quarterback in these last remaining two games.

Or how about the Texans pick up Jamarcus Russell in the draft! (lol) I'd really like to see that guy play for Houston... ok I'm done with my campaign

Edited December 18, 2006 by J.A.S.O.N.

[Trae]

Troy Smith would be the better picc for the Texans. Here is what I would do if I were the Texans:

First off, in the first round, I would draft Troy Smith as our QB. I would try and get a trade for picks for David Carr. If not possible, just keep Carr.

If a second rounder for Cedric Benson from the Chicago Bears does not go through, then I would take either Marshawn Lynch from California or Michael Bush from Louisville (if he is available in the second round). The next five rounds, I would focus on CB and OL.

We could get Asante Samuel from the Patriots and Lance Briggs from Chicago is we try hard enough. They would help out our secondary a lot, and we could use the draft picks for sone OL. Also, if Dwight Freeney does not resign with the Colts, we could try him, too, but by that time, I think we would be above the salary cap.

[Guest Marty]

Boy, talk about a morgue!

Ya this kinda reminds me of the global warning thread after you started taking people to school.

Edited December 18, 2006 by Marty

[J.A.S.O.N.]

Troy Smith would be the better picc for the Texans. Here is what I would do if I were the Texans:

First off, in the first round, I would draft Troy Smith as our QB. I would try and get a trade for picks for David Carr. If not possible, just keep Carr.

If a second rounder for Cedric Benson from the Chicago Bears does not go through, then I would take either Marshawn Lynch from California or Michael Bush from Louisville (if he is available in the second round). The next five rounds, I would focus on CB and OL.

We could get Asante Samuel from the Patriots and Lance Briggs from Chicago is we try hard enough. They would help out our secondary a lot, and we could use the draft picks for sone OL. Also, if Dwight Freeney does not resign with the Colts, we could try him, too, but by that time, I think we would be above the salary cap.

The 2-12 Raiders may have their eye on Troy though :

Edited December 18, 2006 by J.A.S.O.N.

[Mark F. Barnes]

Brady Quinn, 6-4, 222, Notre Dame/JaMarcus Russell, 6-6, 250, LSU

Adrian Peterson, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma

Justin Blalock, 6-4, 330, Texas

Josh Beekham, 6-2, 325, Boston College

Cory Anderson, 6-2, 270, Tennessee

Kyle Young, 6-6, 330, Fresno State

[cowboybud]

Not to offend those tired of hearing about Willams/Bush/Young, but the Saints earlier today clinched a playoff spot (even though they lost). The Titans won today and are 7-7, and their playoff hopes are very much alive since they beat the Jaguars.

They would have to win out (at Buffalo and at home vs. New England), and several other scenarios would have to play out for the Titans to make it in. It was too little, too late for 'em this year.

The Saints did clinch the NFC South today due to Carolina losing. Who else clinched a playoff spot today? >

With all the so called experts saying Houston appears to be the perfect whipping boy for the Pats. I am getting a funny feeling there may be an upset in Gillette Stadium. Mark my words, it will not be a blowout by the Pats, they may even get their hat brought to them!

I agree, the 33 point margin was much closer than I expected. Solid effort by the Texans. I'm told they're already working on David Carr's bust in Canton.

[Mark F. Barnes]

Carr's house will be popping up on HAR any day now.....It was that bad today

D. Carr 16/28 127 0 4

[DJ V Lawrence]

They would have to win out (at Buffalo and at home vs. New England), and several other scenarios would have to play out for the Titans to make it in. It was too little, too late for 'em this year.

The fact that the Titans are still in playoff contention is the point...