HoustonIsHome Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Central Square has been proposed for this 'n that for so long until work is being done I'm still of the opinion that it needs to go.Haven't they been gutting it for months now? Hopefully the Reno will start soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I don't know. Hopefully so. I'm sure it has some rather "Byzantine" systems to remove as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 On Swamplot, there have been several Thad's detailing the issues with this building, from massive amounts of asbestos to chilled water systems that are "Byzantine" to the floors being too close together to meet modern requirements. Fom all accounts, renovating the building is utterly uneconomic. I recall the uproar when the Gulf Publishing building was demolished. Gulf Publishing made the comment that renovations would cost upwards of ten million dollars,and he building would be worth three million. No sane person is going to put millions more into a structure than the finished building is worth. I agree that there can be issues that make redevelopment of some buildings uneconomic. That said, falling masonry alone isn't enough of a reason to condemn a building. It is surely within the scope of human accomplishment to be able to fix a damaged facade. I suspect that another issue is limited parking capacity in the attached garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownproud Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 This thread must be a joke. I can't believe anyone really wants to rehab this disaster. I can't tell if we're getting trolled or if people really believe in these points (that the people are from out of town and have never seen this building make me suspect trolled). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I used to live a few blocks east of tgat building, I don't give a ratsass about the building, but I agree with those that say falling masonry alone is a crappy excuse to demolish a building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It isn't this building - it is the sum total of ALL historic buildings in Houston. This is just the latest in buildings that are worthwhile (or still could be) that is getting torn down and "replaced" - just like the old Sears Roebuck Warehouse on Montrose @ Allen Parkway is supposed to be some giant Islamic Learning Center and Foundation... it would have made an excellent conversion to a Whole Foods and mixed shops (because its not like the Aga Kahn couldn't have built his center on empty land just a few blocks over). It's highly unlikely that Whole Foods would put a store in a building that flooded several times. The building flooded badly in Allison, and was never repaired after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 to the floors being too close together to meet modern requirements.This one falls under the "wasteful society" category. People are what, half an inch taller on average than when this was built? Pretty sure America is the only country where you hear "low ceiling heights" as an excuse to demolish buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 This thread must be a joke. I can't believe anyone really wants to rehab this disaster. I can't tell if we're getting trolled or if people really believe in these points (that the people are from out of town and have never seen this building make me suspect trolled).I'm actually a native Houstonian, and about 70-80% of our work is in historic preservation. We are all allowed opinions. I'm grateful my opinion differs from the norm in this town. If you think this is an eyesore, that is also your opinion. Thanks for sharing. But I'm most certainly not "TROLLING" - never done that nor do I ever plan on "trolling." I'm not sure how you can equate my posting that it would be preferred to save this building and have Hanover build across the street at that dumpy Wal-Greens to "Trolling" It's highly unlikely that Whole Foods would put a store in a building that flooded several times. The building flooded badly in Allison, and was never repaired after that.Did the entire building flood? Or just the lower floor? I seem to recall there being a few other floors in this warehouse. Granted it was very unlikely this would have been done, it sure would have been fantastic to save this cool old warehouse and use it - for a warehouse (which is what grocers are) and allow Aga Khan to build where Whole Foods and company are currently located down West Dallas. My post about that was purely hypothetical; a "what if," nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityliving Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 3400 Montrose will be replaced with a 30-story highrise apartments/condos by the Hanover group. Demolition will start sometime in January 2014. It will not be imploded like the Macy's in downtown due to abestos removal. The architects are still working on the preliminary plans. The old shopping center on Weshimer and Montrose will also come down soon to make way for a hotel and mix-use development. Get ready, Montrose is going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 ^Yes we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 3400 Montrose will be replaced with a 30-story highrise apartments/condos by the Hanover group. Demolition will start sometime in January 2014. It will not be imploded like the Macy's in downtown due to abestos removal. The architects are still working on the preliminary plans. The old shopping center on Weshimer and Montrose will also come down soon to make way for a hotel and mix-use development. Get ready, Montrose is going to change. Is the height for the Hanover tower confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityliving Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I don't know if the height for the Hanover tower has been "confirmed," the architectural plans are still being drawn, I suppose those plans could change? But at this time, 30-stories is what I've heard from a reliable source. I passed by 3400 Montrose this morning and noticed a large group of men with hard hats looking over the building, they were in the parking garage and in the building also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I don't know if the height for the Hanover tower has been "confirmed," the architectural plans are still being drawn, I suppose those plans could change? But at this time, 30-stories is what I've heard from a reliable source. I passed by 3400 Montrose this morning and noticed a large group of men with hard hats looking over the building, they were in the parking garage and in the building also. Demo experts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityliving Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 "Demo Experts"? That is a big possability, on my way to the Montrose Kroger just now, I saw a company by the name of American Fence Co, fencing off the building and parking garage and also the house behind the parking garage which will most likeley be torn down as well, and I also saw a dumptster which has been placed by the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 ~300 units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 There's now a variance sign up on the property that say "multi family". I saw the sign from Yoakum on my bike ride yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityliving Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I saw the sign also. It says "Hanover Montrose" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Renderings: http://swamplot.com/new-30-story-3400-montrose-tower-will-face-kroger-show-montrose-blvd-its-garage-and-drive-thru/2014-01-14/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well that's certainly underwhelming.. It's okay, and appears to have nice finishes, but nothing eclectic/funky like I hoped they would do for Montrose.What's the angled part sticking off the side of the tower in the site plan rendering.. An awning for the "carport/drive through"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 thanks urb! the thing sticking off to the right of the "proposed building" in the last picture. what is that? i didnt notice any odd angles in any of the renderings, but if its not a carport like i first thought, maybe its on top of the garage.. on the amenity deck level?well ive got to be honest, its certainly growing on me. i like the punched out windows on the narrow sides, and like i said previously the finishes seem nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well that's certainly underwhelming.. Ditto. Infill is infill though, it's nothing fabulous. But will have good views when 'Free Tibet' protesters march outside of the Chinese Consulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Owl Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Typical Hanover disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think it will look better than the renderings when finished with all the glass on the north and south ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 That building will be dated looking within a decade of construction. Nice infill project, boring design. /opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 That building will be dated looking within a decade of construction. Nice infill project, boring design. /opinion.At least it's not like the blvd place Hanover which is already dated by a few decades.. Heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Are we in the 70s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 The Hanover Co. has started the demolition process at 3400 Montrose — which once housed Scott Gertner’s SkyBar — and plans to begin building an apartment tower late this summer.David Ott, development partner at Houston-based Hanover Co., said the building won’t be imploded, and the demolition process should be finished by mid-summer.In its place, Hanover plans to build an approximately 30-story apartment tower. The tower will include about 330 units, and leasing is expected to start in late summer 2016, Ott said.http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morning_call/2014/01/former-skybar-building-to-make-way-for.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucleareaction Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Can't wait to see what this will look like in combination with the new development at Westheimer & Montrose. That being said, may have to alter my bike commute to work because of construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsatyr Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 That's going to be an eyesore. Hopefully it will look better than the renderings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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