DJ V Lawrence Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 The Superbowl helps boost the image of the city to the people who live here. In your own head kinda thing.Didn't help Jacksonville much. Same can be said for Detroit.Of course, we have to at least bid on this, becuase we wasted so much money bringing the Texans here to begin with.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>As, remember, it was Bob Mcnair that spent da money. Also, remember the fact that everyone who left H-Town can NOT deny the fact that it was by far the best Super Bowl of all time all around. NO QUESTION. If anyone can tell me any city that threw better and bigger Super Bowl parties, a more exciting game, and a more talked-about halftime show all in one, feel free to mention it, folks. If Atlanta gets the Bowl, it won't be because we did a bad job in 2004. It would only be because the league thought Atlanta did a not so good job in 2000, and they want to give Atlanta to redeem itself, yo. We STILL da best city to host it, yo. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 I don't see how any of these cities could beat H-Town out for the Super Bowl. Of course that doesn't mean they won't, but it seems to me that giving the game to ATL or the like would be a political move for the league.Houston's amenities and there close proximity to Reliant should be a lock. Not to mention how well the game went over two years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Super Bowls location decisions aren't just based on amenities though. In a large part they are made to reward cities for paying for new facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 when do they announce the winner anyway and what channel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 They just now said on channel 13 that the meeting starts at 11 am tomorrow. I'm sure channel 13 will have live coverage on their 11 o'clock news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 What is Houston promissing to do if it gets it? Add more light rail? What else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Houston is not planning nothing, cause of the successful outcome 2004 Super Bowl. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hey, check this article out from channel 13 website... http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/sports/052405_..._nflowners.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 They said announcements should be made 1 or 2 o'clock this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 It's Tampa Bay just announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokieone Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Its Tampa Bay. That came out of nowhere, it was supposed to be either Houston or Atlanta. Guess the presentations made a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Looks like Atlanta's promise of upfront cash payments didn't do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 So very disappointing! Crap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokieone Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Yeah even worse was they said when it actually came to a vote, it was between Tampa Bay and Atlanta. I think it hurt the fact that Houston went first in the presentations, and maybe we didn't "promise" anything new. Sounds like Atlanta was promising all those renovations and Tampa was promoting some new downtown features, a party at Busch Gardens for the owners and invitees and then their "weather", which I actually think wasn't supposed to have been that good the last time they had it there, but short term memory of course.Still, I'm glad we didn't go the route of promising something we couldn't deliver, but maybe the "if it isn't broke" routine wasn't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Tampa Bay awarded Super Bowl XLIII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGrayGuy Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Tampa freaking Bay???You go to be kidding me. Okay, so I am disappointed. Does this take us out the rotation for a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Yes it does. Houston won't see another Super Bowl somewhere in limbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetJ Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I wonder why Houston was eliminated in the first round? *secret thought*- I'm just glad we didn't loose to Atlanta . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 You know. I'm not mad, it hurts, but I'm not mad. I know for a fact Houston is the best city year around. I love Houston, and we don't need a Super Bowl here to showcase our city. Everyone knows Houston, if they don't they will soon. I wished the Super Bowl would return to the Bayou City, but that's ow the ball rolls. I have Super Bowl year around, cause I know Houston is #1 in my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 At least we have the NBA All-Star game in Februaray. I know it's not the same, but it's something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Well, when you listen to the comments made by some "annonymous" NFL owners on why Houston (in particular) was eliminated, it makes sense. The idea among most owners was that Houston was the most recent to host the game so they felt there would be opportunities a little later for Houston. Miami's last hosting is the longest since removed but they'll be hosting it in 2007, so they were eliminated as well. Tampa has hosted more recently than Atlanta (but only by a year) and apparently the weather concerns in Atlanta were far too great to overcome.I'm guessing that Houston probably has a better chance sometime around 2011 but we'll see. It's much too far into the future to worry about.Houston WILL host the Final Four in 2011, though, and that can be a lot of fun as well, with a weekend's worth of festivities on a greater scale than the MLB All Star Game and the NBA All Star Game but not as large as the SB, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 So the fact that Houston had just hosted a Super Bowl was thought to be the overriding factor in why we weren't picked? It's interesting that Miami is hosting the 2007 Super Bowl, which will bring its total to 8, and yet they were eliminated after Houston. I suppose it doesn't matter in what order they were eliminated, only who won, but it's interesting to read into these things. The NBA All-star game will be nice and certainly the final four will be a fun time, but it seems like the list of big events Houston has garnered due to our unprecedented stadium-building binge is beginning to grow small. A nice alternative would be for a few championships to come down the line, but I'm not prepared to hold my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Come on, y'all. It's all about who's doin who! We need to get Jordy some Viagra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Well, when you listen to the comments made by some "annonymous" NFL owners on why Houston (in particular) was eliminated, it makes sense. The idea among most owners was that Houston was the most recent to host the game so they felt there would be opportunities a little later for Houston. Miami's last hosting is the longest since removed but they'll be hosting it in 2007, so they were eliminated as well. Tampa has hosted more recently than Atlanta (but only by a year) and apparently the weather concerns in Atlanta were far too great to overcome.I'm guessing that Houston probably has a better chance sometime around 2011 but we'll see. It's much too far into the future to worry about.Houston WILL host the Final Four in 2011, though, and that can be a lot of fun as well, with a weekend's worth of festivities on a greater scale than the MLB All Star Game and the NBA All Star Game but not as large as the SB, obviously.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I heard Dallas will get the 2011 Super Bowl, but it's not in ink yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimberlySayWhat Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I heard that about Dallas also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorAggie Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I think that Houston having the Super Bowl recently is a bunch of crap. Case in point--Atlanta had the Super Bowl in 2000 and 1994 (I think). Twice in ten years. I also think it's garbage that the NFL gave the 2010 game to New York without even being sure that the stadium will get started on time. I think that Houston may not get the game before 2012 or so because Dallas may get it in 2011 and I'm thinking that Indy's new stadium may get a SB in 2012. Throw in that the NFL may all of a sudden decide that Texas can't have the game twice in 3 years and that takes us to 2014-2015. The only good thing is that Reliant will be due for a refresher by them and will sparkle even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 The 2010 award to NYC is conditional. They have to gain financial support from CONY and SONY. It's a big part of their Olympic bid so there's a good chance they'll get a decent amount of funding, but the stadium project is very expensive one, like a billion dollars or so, so even with financial help, the Jets may not have enough money to foot the rest.2011, no offical awarding but you have to like Dallas to get one either in 2011, 2012 or 2013.Also, be on the lookout for a Los Angeles team by then and a possible bowl being awarded to them after 2010. It really depends on what happens with the Saints and Vikings, for example. And if the Saints figure out a way to upgrade the Superdome and keep themselves in NO, they're a good candidate for 2011, 2012 or 2013.But there are too many factors. Maybe it's like Coog said: Ol' Jordy needs to step up his libido. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights2Bastrop Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I thought Houston was going to get it for sure, especially when the Houston Group offered both Janet and Michael in the deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Actually, the New York stadium deal is projected to cost $1.3 billion to taxpayers alone. The NY Jets are putting up $600 million. Some recent estimates have the stadium and related infrastructure coming in at $2.2 to $2.4 billion. There is huge opposition to it. So, 2010 is very iffy for New York. Dallas looks to be in their stadium by 2009, so they are safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasboy Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 They could have thrown in something new. Doing the same thing over 5 years down the road shows too much confidence and not enough hunger to have the game again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greystone08(returns) Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 They could have thrown in something new. Doing the same thing over 5 years down the road shows too much confidence and not enough hunger to have the game again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree! But it still sucks that Houston lost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 You know. I think the NFL cater more to compac cities like, New Orleans, Miami, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, etc, cause everything is right there for vistors. They don't have to travel here, or travel there for entertainment like spread out cities like Houston. Houston is a spread out city, and you have to travel cross town for entertainment. That's why New Orleans, and Miami hosted the most Super Bowls then any other city in America, cause of their compac surroundings.That's just my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I wonder why Houston was eliminated in the first round?*secret thought*- I'm just glad we didn't loose to Atlanta . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We were the first city eliminated! Does that mean we lost to everyone? HOwever, I think the owners had a perfect excuse in that we were the last city of the four to host a Super Bowl (but what about Miami?) However, I think Tampa winning the Super Bowl is GREAT for Houston! Why? Because it keeps us in the Super Bowl rotation anyway. Remember the burning question we had about what would happen if Dallas is awarded the 2011 Super Bowl, and we thought they wouldn't give it to Houston for a loooonnnnggg time because they wouldn't award it to the same state within a four year period? Miami will host in 2007 and THEY were eliminated after HOUSTON! Miami '07, Tampa '09! So Dallas '11, Houston '13! The owners have NNNOOOOOOO EXCUSES for our next bid. NONE!! We're one of, if not, THE best host city as a whole the NFL's EVER had, proven in 2004. As a matter of fact, there's something else we haven't thought up yet. WE STILL HAVE A SHOT AT THE 2010 SUPER BOWL, TOO!!! New York was awarded the game ONLY IF THEY BUILD THE STADIUM ON TIME, and that will be built before 2010 ONLY IF THEY WIN THE OLYMPICS!!!! I think New York would do a fine job as a host city, but, like Miami, THEY BROKE THE RULES TOO!!! The stadium has to be in use for 2 years before it's eligible to host. Guess what? 09'opening-'10 Super Bowl. THERE ARE NO LEGITIMATE SUPER BOWL HOSTING ELIGIBILITY RULES IN THE NFL!!!! ALL RULES ARE BENT!! WE HAVE A SHOT EVERY YEAR!!!! GO HOUSTON '10, 12',13, '14, '15..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokieone Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Well I would agree on the compactness of New Orleans. But the others are just as spread out. Jacksonville was a disaster apparently. No high class hotels or dining, I forget what they said is the square miles there, but it is enormous as well, despite the fact the population is so low. As for Miami, Pro Player stadium isn't really even in Miami and is far, far from South Beach. Its just the fact South Beach is around there that makes it attractive and the weather I think is more reliable. Its basically like saying Galveston is really just next door to Reliant. Except of course that South Beach is more than a little wilder than Galveston. Tampa, I'm not so sure about, so can't say anything there. But compactness is not entirely the issue, I think it was the "we just had one there" factor and the bid not being anything of a step up from last time. Atlanta just won't ever be able to live down the 2 Super Bowls where they had freak weather both times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Stop your grinning, and drop your linening, cause it's time for NFL football to start! How bout'em Texans this season? y'all think the Texans be in the postseason this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3198923Interesting take on the SB vote. Could greed and avarice be a consideration in NFL voting matters........NAAAAHH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I cannot fathom why they chose such a small town as Tampa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I was actually quite shocked about Tampa, I think I would rather lose to Atlanta, but Tampa Bay? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heights2Bastrop Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 The NFL likes to use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 The NFL likes to use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 No sweat off my back. Last time the city acutally lost money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorAggie Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3198923Interesting take on the SB vote. Could greed and avarice be a consideration in NFL voting matters........NAAAAHH!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Given that information on Miami's willingness to provide a permanent entertainment area in return for the SB every 3 years, I don't think that Houston should be discouraged. It looks like the Astrodome could be used for that same purpose if they ever make their minds up to do it. I like the Gaylord Texan-esque idea for the Dome. Hotel rooms, shopping, entertainment options all inside of the Dome. Add in a swanky ballroom for the Commissioner's dinner that is above the rest of the activity on the lower levels and you have a great place.My only concern is that Reliant Park may become a more formidable opponent to downtown for many major events, but that point may be moot if the HCHSA and the Harris County Sports Corp. become one entity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Given that information on Miami's willingness to provide a permanent entertainment area in return for the SB every 3 years, I don't think that Houston should be discouraged. It looks like the Astrodome could be used for that same purpose if they ever make their minds up to do it. I like the Gaylord Texan-esque idea for the Dome. Hotel rooms, shopping, entertainment options all inside of the Dome. Add in a swanky ballroom for the Commissioner's dinner that is above the rest of the activity on the lower levels and you have a great place.My only concern is that Reliant Park may become a more formidable opponent to downtown for many major events, but that point may be moot if the HCHSA and the Harris County Sports Corp. become one entity.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>That HCHSA and Harris County Sports Corp. merge idea sounds like a great one. If Miami could offer that, with Houston being a much bigger city and Houston being the best host city ever for a Super Bowl, once again, the NFL would have NO excuses to hook us up the way they'd hook up New York or the state of Florida with special privilages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonsemipro Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I say, why the hell Houston County Sports Corp. do something about the Astrodome? Really, the dome is the key and they looking passed it. The Dome plays a big major role in the relaint park. Rennovate the dome people, money sets in front of their eyes and they don't even know it. I say, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I say, why the hell Houston County Sports Corp. do something about the Astrodome? Really, the dome is the key and they looking passed it. The Dome plays a big major role in the relaint park. Rennovate the dome people, money sets in front of their eyes and they don't even know it. I say, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Calm down. They drink decaf anywayz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 The NFL likes to use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincoRanch-HoustonResident Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Houstonsemipro, this is your fault. You are the one who cursed us by saying that we were not going to host it. I blame you . Joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Houstonsemipro, this is your fault. You are the one who cursed us by saying that we were not going to host it. I blame you .Joking. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> YEAH OSCAR!! YOU'RE A GROUCH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouCityGirl Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Sadly it went to Tampa Bay for the Superbowl! But the Houston Chronicle guy on ESPN did say there is alot about houston you just can't put in an image on paper. You'd have to come here to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Sadly it went to Tampa Bay for the Superbowl! But the Houston Chronicle guy on ESPN did say there is alot about houston you just can't put in an image on paper. You'd have to come here to see it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Point taken. In that case, check out the new thread I'm about to start up on the All Star Game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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