swtsig Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Those renderings are very sexy. This project looks like an absolute delight and, as the Chronicle article suggests, will help the MFAH act as a nice bridge between the Museum District and Rice. now if we can continue to bridge the gap between the museum district and midtown and midtown into downtown.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The Wheeler/Sears/Fiesta/MX Consulate Cluster Fudge is the link that is needed next. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 This is most amazing, the gentle slope from ground level to the terrace. Those sure look like people off in the distance on the incline to me. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Agree Sparrow. Assuming this is open to the public, which I expect that it will be, The Glassell will definitely become an favorite icon for the city. Makes the Museum buildings and Sculpture Garden feel a part of the Park. This feature alone will pull a lot of people to the Museum District...even if they don't visit any of the museums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think this will most likely (pending how it looks as-built) be the biggest thing to happen to Houston architecturally in 30 years. It finally gives to our current (now fading) boom era the entry into the realm of elevated, soul-moving architecture that it has so far been missing, respectable designs by Pickard Chilton and others notwithstanding. I only feel a sense of regret for my children. Their college savings will take a hit when I donate to this thing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I appreciate the slope on the Glassell not blocking the charming steeple of the First Presbyterian Church from the intersection of Montrose @ Bissonnet. Should make for an interesting photo op. The roof should also provide a unique view looking south towards Lindsey Plaza and the Obelisk. Who has a good Lens? Thanks for the photos cloud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Cloud713 thanks for getting into the press conference and getting those images of the plans and other things that weren't in the Chronicle.I liked what Mr. Tinterow said about his concern to produce the best space in the world to view art. His concern about lighting is very important .Bravo ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 simply outstanding work cloud713! not to mention.. guts as well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Heh, it was a little tricky. Seemed like parts of the museum were open for business but all the entrances around the van der Rohe buikding had staff standing outside and even police at the main entrance under a temporary tent/awning. We snuck down into the Cafe Express entrance from the street level and filed in line with a tour group and proceeded to follow them past a few staff members through the Turrell Tunnel and popped up into the other building where everything was at. Lol.. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Heh, it was a little tricky. Seemed like parts of the museum were open for business but all the entrances around the van der Rohe buikding had staff standing outside and even police at the main entrance under a temporary tent/awning. We snuck down into the Cafe Express entrance from the street level and filed in line with a tour group and proceeded to follow them past a few staff members through the Turrell Tunnel and popped up into the other building where everything was at. Lol.. cloud713 wins the "stealth haifer" of the year award!! awesome! thank you thank you! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 This is fantastic! Will like to see more accurate renderings - though this is a Holl design, it'll probably be all wispy and foggy in appearance upon completion! Like Lake+Flato's design too, given the context I'd say its a nice addition. That and I understand the MFA has an undersized restoration area so this should bode them well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 when does construction start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Not bad at all - the rooftop terrace will be an incredible event space for the museum. I imagine they will have installations up there, similar to the roof terrace at the Met in NYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) It's funny because I've always kinda thought of Steven Holl as Gehry-lite which is perfect for our city with buildings that try not to offend. Great selection of architects for this. As soon as I saw the name I knew this was in good hands. Was very surprised by the Lake | Flato design. I didn't even know they were a part of this whole scheme. Awesome stuff by them as well. They are really making a nice statement in this town so good for them, but if Lake | Flato was the opening act, Steven Holl is the big show. He is the quintessential architect of his generation (at least at his level) and always made statements with his architecture. I know he is very popular at my office as I've seen a few of the designers with Steven Holl books of his earlier works on their desks! It's certainly a bold design, but as seen from that night illustration it easily slips right into place. The roof sorta gives the whole building a carved stone type of look like the slopes on top were chiseled from the greater whole. It's more of an accent, but its a great detail. The building I'm most curious about is the new Glassell school! I had no idea they were going to redevelop that area as well and its actually the one that steals the show. The walkable roof from ground floor to terrace is something that is very popular in contemporary architecture and it's almost in every architecture student project, but to actually see it being executed in this city is simply amazing and will be the talk of the town for sure! Just the view alone....I can't wait! Sometimes in as architects especially us young architects we want to go out and just do the most crazy thing ever because surely that will start the next great revolution, but sometimes it more subtle and interesting to just give the scene a slight nudge. This does that. People have been throwing the word game changer, but I look at it more as sort of those life moment markers you see on facebook. This is this moment in Houston's life. It's a 'moment'. yeah not as sexy as gamechanger, but it really is a moment. The moment where Houston matured just a little bit more and grew up just a little bit more. Hopefully it goes even further than that. So if it wasn't obvious from the statement above, I really love the design. Would like to see further info on this and maybe some more interior renders, but I'm definitely impressed. Lets go gaga over this and not the most underwhelming reveal of the day *cough*Amegy 20 story nothing that could be built anywhere in america therefore it's nothing very special and it's just a plain glass building with horns *cough* P.S. Awesome inside work Cloud. Some news program needs to grab you dude! You do better investigative journalism than most. Great images and were far more interesting than just the renders. The models really add context and give the building more character. Edited January 14, 2015 by Luminare 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 thanks again guys.. it was pretty fun and i was pleased there was additional information posted. a press photographer kept taking pictures of me admiring the model/taking pictures of it, so who knows.. maybe ill end up in published photos attached to an article about the expansion. ive got to admit. i dont think ive ever bumped into a billionaire before tonight.. much less the richest man in Houston (lol, i backed/stood up to adjust when trying to get a close up of the model and it was Rich Kinder [the guy i overheard being told "theres your building".. i googled all the notable people after i got back from the event and realized who a few of them were] that i kind of brushed arms with. he was totally cool and after i tried to back away and let the museum guy continue with his little guided tour/presentation of the model for Kinder, Rich insisted i get the photo i was trying to take).btw, since my pictures werent that great.. it was all set up in the front/Binz entrance to the van der Rohe building and for all i know the model/renderings might stay there for a little while if anyone is in the neighborhood and wants to drop by to see/snap some better photos of everything now that all the press/donors/architects arent crowding the room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Thumbs up, especially the Glassell School. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 ive got to admit. i dont think ive ever bumped into a billionaire before tonight.. much less the richest man in Houston (lol, i backed/stood up to adjust when trying to get a close up of the model and it was Rich Kinder [the guy i overheard being told "theres your building".. i googled all the notable people after i got back from the event and realized who a few of them were] that i kind of brushed arms with. he was totally cool and after i tried to back away and let the museum guy continue with his little guided tour/presentation of the model for Kinder, Rich insisted i get the photo i was trying to take). Sounds like he's kinder than most billionaires. I had a similar experience with his wife one time. She was heading the committee to design Discovery Green and there was a solicitation for public input, so I sent in an e-mail describing an idea. The next morning she forwarded the e-mail to everyone on the committee (copying me) and gushed about how excited she was reading the description. The idea wasn't used, but it made an impression on me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I would call this a transformational project for Houston. I love the vision, and the execution. It might even make me become a member of the museum again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 when does construction start According to the Chron, construction starts this summer, with the new Glassell Building starting first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Starting construction with the Glassell is like eating desert first. Nothing wrong with that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I hope they don't wait until last for the new museum building. But I guess it would make sense to have parking straightened out everywhere first, and to make the fundraising less anti-climactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Complete schedule: Kinder Building (the new exhibition/restaurant/theater building): Construction takes place 2017-2019Glassell School of Art and the Bown Foundation Plaza: Construction takes place summer 2015-2017The Sarah Campbell Blaffer Foundation Center for Conservation: Construction takes place 2016-2017 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txn4art Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I'm delighted to see a conservation center is part of the plan. MFAH once owned a handsome Carl Milles fountain that suffered internal damage due to corrosion and was no longer on view. According to a former museum staffer, "no one could be found to repair it. so they got rid of it". I've always wondered if this is true, or if it still languishes in a dusty storeroom corner somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 What will be great for this building is to help relieve the Mies Addition from having to rotate different collections. From what I have read it's always been a challenging environment to house art especially if it doesn't work with the space. Maybe once this building is finished they won't be pressured to figure out how to fill the Mies Addition with rotating collections and instead start selecting more permanent pieces to fill the galleries that also complement the buildings vast spaces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 This was an announcement from Ellen Cohen today: Council approved an Economic Development Agreement, also known as a “380 agreement," between the City of Houston and the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston (MFAH). Thisagreement allows the City to give a portion of Roseland St. (between Barkdull St. and Berthea St.) to MFAH in exchange for an expanded public Sculpture Garden which will be maintained by the museum. MFAH is currently undergoing a privately funded $350 million expansion which will include new space for galleries, an auditorium, a restaurant, a new building for the Glassell School of Art (including a walkable green roof), a conservation center, an underground parking garage, and the expanded sculpture plaza. My question is does the MFAH own the property to the north of the Glassel all the way to Barkdull along Montrose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 That's a museum parking lot.. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 That's a museum parking lot.. Right? No, actually I drove by there yesterday and its got two 30's brick apartment houses on it so I can see that the MFAH probably does own this and will start the Glassell farther North than the existing Glassell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchFan Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 What will be great for this building is to help relieve the Mies Addition from having to rotate different collections. From what I have read it's always been a challenging environment to house art especially if it doesn't work with the space. Maybe once this building is finished they won't be pressured to figure out how to fill the Mies Addition with rotating collections and instead start selecting more permanent pieces to fill the galleries that also complement the buildings vast spaces. It would be interesting to hear what local architects think of the Mies Addition. Back in the 80s (I think) MFAH had a director with distinguished credentials, but who apparently hated it ... I remember that he compared it to an airport terminal. I didn't like hearing that, but perhaps he had a point. Despite that, I always liked the view of the facade from the street, very Miesian international style, good to have an example of that in Houston. I wonder how many people know that the current "Mies Addition" actually extended an earlier one. As I recall, the earlier one was similar but set back further from the street, with white-painted steel instead of black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) I like the Mies Addition. While not his greatest work, its still Mies. I mean Frank Lloyd Wright didn't design Fallingwater every day, but his work still trumps 99.999999% of all others. Even his throwaway work. Its kind of funny - we may finally see the Mies addition(s) used in the manner that they were probably intended when Mies designed them back in the 50s and 70s. Edited January 17, 2015 by arche_757 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchFan Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 ... Its kind of funny - we may finally see the Mies addition(s) used in the manner that they were probably intended when Mies designed them back in the 50s and 70s. Good to get some feedback! How do you think they were intended differently than we see them now? I don't really know the sequence of events, but my recollection is that the current Mies facade was a design that was not implemented until years later (after his death). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I love the Mies addition. One of my favorite museum buildings in Houston.. I'm surprised a museum director would hate it given the significance of the building in the art world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I agree with Arche on that the Mies Addition by far not his best (this is coming from a guy who was able to experience the New National Gallery in Berlin one of his more praised buildings), but it's still a fine piece of architecture that like many of it's brethren is simply misunderstood by a current generation that run things today who simply can not appreciate it's simplicity and rigor in regards to form and space. The building really plays with level changes and like many modernist buildings from Mies to Corb a big idea was progression through space which is very important in a museum and how you can make that interesting. Immediately when you walk into the main Foyer you see these level changes it beckons you to explore more of the space. Probably the most important aspect which has seems to have frustrated past curators is the verticality of it's interiors which makes filling up the space rather difficult. I imagine that the building wasn't really designed with rotating pieces in mind and more of a place to house selected permanent collections. Large modern art pieces that fill whole rooms and large canvas art would serve very well here. Even though it isn't the best Mies building, like Arche said it's still better than most things that get built, period. What's even more interesting is that this building gets through into a much larger conversation about the value and worth of Modernist architecture and whether many are worth saving or should be put on the national register. That's for another thread. @Cloud Museum directors honestly could care less whether they show their art in a multi-million dollar building or in a warehouse! Because at the end of the day the one thing that matters is the art and many past Directors have made the conclusion that the building robs the spotlight from the art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I agree with Arche on that the Mies Addition by far not his best (this is coming from a guy who was able to experience the New National Gallery in Berlin one of his more praised buildings), but it's still a fine piece of architecture that like many of it's brethren is simply misunderstood by a current generation that run things today who simply can not appreciate it's simplicity and rigor in regards to form and space.The building really plays with level changes and like many modernist buildings from Mies to Corb a big idea was progression through space which is very important in a museum and how you can make that interesting. Immediately when you walk into the main Foyer you see these level changes it beckons you to explore more of the space. Probably the most important aspect which has seems to have frustrated past curators is the verticality of it's interiors which makes filling up the space rather difficult. I imagine that the building wasn't really designed with rotating pieces in mind and more of a place to house selected permanent collections. Large modern art pieces that fill whole rooms and large canvas art would serve very well here.Even though it isn't the best Mies building, like Arche said it's still better than most things that get built, period. What's even more interesting is that this building gets through into a much larger conversation about the value and worth of Modernist architecture and whether many are worth saving or should be put on the national register. That's for another thread.@Cloud Museum directors honestly could care less whether they show their art in a multi-million dollar building or in a warehouse! Because at the end of the day the one thing that matters is the art and many past Directors have made the conclusion that the building robs the spotlight from the art.The building robs the spotlight from the art? I don't think the building is very exuberant. Just a classic timeless design by one of the most famous architects of the 20th century. I agree it's likely hard to show off exhibition in the larger auditorium spaces of the Mies, but hopefully they can figure out a decent presentation layout with those spaces now that they have a new auditorium space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The Mies addition has always seemed crowded - during exhibitions. Maybe it was just me? I think its a fun space though, and look forward to the rest of the campus opening up here before the dawn of the next decade. Which we are already half-way to! Hard to believe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I agree with Arche on that the Mies Addition by far not his best (this is coming from a guy who was able to experience the New National Gallery in Berlin one of his more praised buildings), but it's still a fine piece of architecture that like many of it's brethren is simply misunderstood by a current generation that run things today who simply can not appreciate it's simplicity and rigor in regards to form and space. The building really plays with level changes and like many modernist buildings from Mies to Corb a big idea was progression through space which is very important in a museum and how you can make that interesting. Immediately when you walk into the main Foyer you see these level changes it beckons you to explore more of the space. Probably the most important aspect which has seems to have frustrated past curators is the verticality of it's interiors which makes filling up the space rather difficult. I imagine that the building wasn't really designed with rotating pieces in mind and more of a place to house selected permanent collections. Large modern art pieces that fill whole rooms and large canvas art would serve very well here. Even though it isn't the best Mies building, like Arche said it's still better than most things that get built, period. What's even more interesting is that this building gets through into a much larger conversation about the value and worth of Modernist architecture and whether many are worth saving or should be put on the national register. That's for another thread. @Cloud Museum directors honestly could care less whether they show their art in a multi-million dollar building or in a warehouse! Because at the end of the day the one thing that matters is the art and many past Directors have made the conclusion that the building robs the spotlight from the art.I never said it was bad! Mies is Mies is Mies is Mies. It may not be the IIT Architecture School - but its a fine building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I remember when Houston was a little big city. Not anymore we are now a Global City! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 This expansion is making me consider upping my annual donation. What a great addition. This is the roof deck at the Met in NYC. I wish the MFAH's new roof deck was a little closer to the park, but it should still have a great view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) I never said it was bad! Mies is Mies is Mies is Mies. It may not be the IIT Architecture School - but its a fine building. What the hell? I didn't say it was a bad building. I was simply giving it a critical analysis and no matter how much I like the building or any building it doesn't mean I can't be critical about it. Mies never designed bad architecture. His scale was from Super awesome to Simply Good. This is an example of Great and really demonstrates how distinct the International Style was and as some have said is very important that the city of Houston has such a fine example from that time period since at one point we were essential america's example of "The Modernist City". Once again I really like the building, and now hopefully with this new building future directors will give the Mies Addition a second look into how it should be best utilized because instead of being a place that has passing collections it could be become a really distinctive location for a very particular collection of art which could give the building the attention it deserves. Edited January 18, 2015 by Luminare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) The fan shaped nature of the site combined with the need to maximize space made it difficult for Mies to put a really satisfying building there I think. It seems like a building that, if it were a painting, scholars would guess was done "in the workshop of Rembrandt can Rijn" rather than by the master himself.I also think its facade could benefit from the rule of thirds. Two stories of glass above one story of masonry would be ideal.But as Mayor Daley said of criticism of the Picasso sculpture commissioned for a plaza in downtown Chicago, "I don't care what it looks like, I just care that we have a Picasso!" Edited January 18, 2015 by H-Town Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I love the MFAH, and part of the reason is that it really is one of the least "Mies-y" Mies buildings. It's not built on an orthagonal grid; it partially obscures its structure from the street; it's actually pretty sectionally dynamic. It's ultimately distinct and specific to its site in a way that makes it more than just another Mies building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I love the MFAH, and part of the reason is that it really is one of the least "Mies-y" Mies buildings. It's not built on an orthagonal grid; it partially obscures its structure from the street; it's actually pretty sectionally dynamic. It's ultimately distinct and specific to its site in a way that makes it more than just another Mies building. I can understand how at first glance the fact that it is fan shaped would mean that it wasn't built on an orthagonal grid, but this just isn't the case. It wouldn't be very Miesian if it wasn't designed with a grid in mind (as are most modern architecture). A key feature in almost all modernist architecture is the strict adherence to a grid system however, and wherever the system is derived from. In this case it isn't a simple orthagonal grid, but instead it's a radial grid emanating from a distant point just like you would do if you were setting up a drawing in 2-point perspective. Miesian architecture is creating the grid, executing architecture within that grid and populating it with forms and space to create rooms or program. In this case the radial grid was first created and then all the spaces were placed onto the grid, but it still adheres to it. You second point isn't exactly correct as well as the main structure of the building is fully exposed. The spine which runs long the roof of the building is fully exposed and runs from the very back, up the wall, over the roof, and then terminates down in front of the building. Sure it doesn't expose some of it's architecture like Philip Johnson's St. Thomas Campus, is one example, but it still reveals its structure to the public. I will give you created for saying that it is sectionally dynamic! That is a very good way to describe it's interior architecturally. Finally in countering your point about it being site specific, it only accomplishes this through it's exterior shape and nothing more, but it maintains it's International Style aesthetic meaning that theoretically this building could be grafted onto a similarly shaped building anywhere in the world and it would fit onto it.....though a bit awkwardly sure. The architecture though would be at home anywhere thus it being a clear example of International Style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 My point was not that it wasnt based around a grid, just that it wasn't orthagonal. The difference between an orthagonal grid and a radial grid might not seem like much, but exactly how many buildings did Mies design with a radial grid? (this is actually a genuine question; I'm curious if it's something he played with elsewhere) It creates a fundamentally different effect with the building receding from the entrance, and it's a choice forced by the site. No, that's not much a concession to site, but it's more than I would otherwise expect. But yes, my second point was just wrong. I remembered the structure disappearing into the stone, which it clearly does not. Still there's stone on the outside as a major exterior feature. Sans German/Barcelona Pavilion, that's somewhat unusual. It also seems to echo/reference the original building somewhat by carrying its materiality, stripped of detailing, all the way through to Bissonet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Here was Snohetta's design proposal for the MFAH expansion: http://snohetta.com/project/198-museum-of-fine-arts-houston 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Urbannizer, Do we know about the full roster of firms who were finalist or a group that were all considered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Oh.. Didn't realize that was stuff that hadn't been posted before. Stumbled across those renderings when I was trying to find more info on the expansion announcement a week or so ago on Google. I definitely prefer the chosen design. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Glad they didn't win. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lospringer Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Great lecture...never heard of an "orthagonal" grid before. The three finalists were Holl, Snohetta and Morphosis Here's a link to the Morphosis design: http://morphopedia.com/projects/museum-of-fine-arts-houston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Great lecture...never heard of an "orthagonal" grid before. The three finalists were Holl, Snohetta and Morphosis Here's a link to the Morphosis design: http://morphopedia.com/projects/museum-of-fine-arts-houston Glad you liked the conversation. Orthogonal (we both misspelled it lol) is thrown around a lot in Architecture. In laymen terms its something that is linear and so an orthogonal grid is a linear grid. Most often its a grid of squares or rectangles, but can be more than that. Frank Lloyd Wright did all kinds of crazy grids from triangles to hexagons, as an example. MORPHOSIS!!!!! UGH. Now I want that design They just recently finished a new Museum (The Perot Museum) in Dallas! Oh well......I'll still take Steven Holl >.< Edited January 20, 2015 by Luminare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 We got the best design. Less is more, and a somewhat rectangular building with only modest touches of unusual geometry is better than a design that really tries too hard to make a big splash. I'm also a little wary of buildings that try so hard to create a public space, sort of like the architecture is telling you, "stand here and feel you're in an awesome spot." The Audrey Jones Beck building kind of does this with the grand entrance hall (with the escalator on one side), but the entrance hall has a functionality that keeps it from feeling too desperate. The High Museum in Atlanta tries over and over to make great spaces, and it all collapses under its own sense of earnest. Steven Holl's design basically says, "We are putting a building here - if you want your grand space, you may have either the street or the sculpture garden." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Great lecture...never heard of an "orthagonal" grid before. The three finalists were Holl, Snohetta and Morphosis Here's a link to the Morphosis design: http://morphopedia.com/projects/museum-of-fine-arts-houstonWow... I am speechless. I almost forgot to breath. Would have had a real presence on Main. I'm almost angry that this wasn't chosen, but I can't be angry, those renderings/models make me happy. I guess this design was too exciting, and Snohetta's design was too boring. Holl's was just right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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