Naviguessor Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Can we not have this conversation again, y’all? 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Naviguessor said: Can we not have this conversation again, y’all? I second this motion. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 October 2020 is pretty far out, and a little disappointing to be honest. Its been fairly dry the last couple of months, so I thought they would be flying through that building. I assume that they are doing all of the landscaping and gardens for the museum too because there's no way just that building alone needs 1 year and a month to be completed. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 hours ago, X.R. said: October 2020 is pretty far out, and a little disappointing to be honest. Its been fairly dry the last couple of months, so I thought they would be flying through that building. I assume that they are doing all of the landscaping and gardens for the museum too because there's no way just that building alone needs 1 year and a month to be completed. The finishes on a building like this take a long time because they have to be perfect. That's why homes and apartments have textured walls and ceilings to cover up shoddy craftsmanship where as a building like this would not be okay with that. Plus I drove by last night and yeah I can totally see why I will be over a year to completion. The interior is still just exposed beams. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, jmitch94 said: The finishes on a building like this take a long time because they have to be perfect. That's why homes and apartments have textured walls and ceilings to cover up shoddy craftsmanship where as a building like this would not be okay with that. Plus I drove by last night and yeah I can totally see why I will be over a year to completion. The interior is still just exposed beams. Wait are we talking about the museum or the garage at Lyric? If you mean the Museum...yeah its going to take a long time. One, its Steven Holl. Two, its a museum. Three, its going to be the crown jewel for this district. They can take as long as they need to get it right. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Luminare said: Wait are we talking about the museum or the garage at Lyric? If you mean the Museum...yeah its going to take a long time. One, its Steven Holl. Two, its a museum. Three, its going to be the crown jewel for this district. They can take as long as they need to get it right. I'm referring to the building that this thread is dedicated to. You are absolutely right, this needs to be done right and will be one of Houston's signature buildings. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing slowly ... very slowly. Gypsy Rose Lee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 hours ago, X.R. said: October 2020 is pretty far out, and a little disappointing to be honest. Its been fairly dry the last couple of months, so I thought they would be flying through that building. I assume that they are doing all of the landscaping and gardens for the museum too because there's no way just that building alone needs 1 year and a month to be completed. Also, if they are just giving it to MFAH in October 2020, it will probably be a few more months before the museum is open. We're probably looking at 2021. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 It takes a while just to get the climate right inside to receive artwork and the installation process will probably take months. They're moving very valuable works of art so it won't be three brothers movers. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, H-Town Man said: Also, if they are just giving it to MFAH in October 2020, it will probably be a few more months before the museum is open. We're probably looking at 2021. That is exactly what the worker told me, they turn it over but the museum has to do their part before it will open. I asked if he knew the opening date and was told, no. Why rush perfection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarklyMoron Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 According to the Chronicle story back in July, the opening will be “late 2020.” That should mean open to the public. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 16 hours ago, Luminare said: I second this motion. Motion carries. Comments removed. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 1:15 AM, Urbannizer said: Motion carries. Comments removed. Oh nuts, I missed them! 😃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Rajnar Jartansson's The Visitor, is going away after this weekend and I highly recommend it if you like music and video. Its a beautifully presented work that you should take the time to see. If you do like music, the director of the Glassel school and well known sculptor Joseph Havel, along with sculptor Steve Murphy, and I, Tin Night, will be performing in the arts district this Friday night at the Patio at the Pit Room from 8:00-11:00.. I hope that some of you will come out and hear our unique sound, and get there early and enjoy some of the incredible barbecue. Hope to see some of you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutchcity94 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, bobruss said: Rajnar Jartansson's The Visitor, is going away after this weekend and I highly recommend it if you like music and video. Its a beautifully presented work that you should take the time to see. If you do like music, the director of the Glassel school and well known sculptor Joseph Havel, along with sculptor Steve Murphy, and I, Tin Night, will be performing in the arts district this Friday night at the Patio at the Pit Room from 8:00-11:00.. I hope that some of you will come out and hear our unique sound, and get there early and enjoy some of the incredible barbecue. Hope to see some of you. Sounds cool! Anywhere I can hear yalls music online? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarklyMoron Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The British paper The Guardian just named Jartansson's The Visitor the best visual artwork of the 21st century. A bit silly, sure. But it is an amazing experience. Just give yourself enough time to really experience the ebbs and flows. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/sep/17/the-best-visual-art-of-the-21st-century 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 11:41 AM, clutchcity94 said: Sounds cool! Anywhere I can hear yalls music online? Not yet but we're working on it. You should drop by tonight and listen to us live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Got the opportunity to meet hindesky last night at The Patio. I now have had the opportunity to have face to face visits with both he and ekdrm2d1. Two of our more prolific photo journalist. Thanks for coming by to hear us last night. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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(Otto Mation) Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Otto Mation) Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Otto Mation) Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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(Otto Mation) Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Otto Mation) Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slcowart416 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Are these panels made of glass or plastic? I'm concerned that if they are plastic / resin type material, they will "yellow" over time and thus become ugly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, slcowart416 said: Are these panels made of glass or plastic? I'm concerned that if they are plastic / resin type material, they will "yellow" over time and thus become ugly. A McCarthy worker told me they were glass, my concern would be vandals. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Otto Mation) Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Otto Mation) Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Otto Mation) Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Otto Mation) Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 bill barfield has added a photo to the pool: Steven Holl architect View the full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted October 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2019 Museum of Fine Arts, Houston. Kinder Building construction by bill barfield, on Flickr 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 https://www.houstonchronicle.com/entertainment/arts-theater/article/when-does-the-new-mfah-kinder-building-open-14814071.php#photo-18567502 Forklifts beep non-stop, power tools whir, generators hum and hammers pound inside the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston’s newest building-to-be, echoing through the concrete walls with a sense of urgency. There’s no time to waste. Museum director Gary Tinterow announced Wednesday that the Nancy and Rich Kinder Building will open to the public next fall. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbs315 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yeah, the museum sent an email yesterday: JUST ANNOUNCED The Susan and Fayez S. Sarofim Campus will be completed in fall 2020 with the opening of the Nancy and Rich Kinder Building Gary Tinterow, Director and Margaret Alkek Williams Chair, the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, today announced that the institution’s multi-year project to expand and redevelop its Susan and Fayez S. Sarofim Campus will be completed in fall 2020 with the opening of the Nancy and Rich Kinder Building. With more than 100,000 square feet of space, or 56 percent, dedicated to the presentation of works of art, the Kinder Building increases overall MFAH exhibition space by nearly 75 percent. A series of major site-specific commissioned artworks will be inaugurated with the Kinder Building, serving as portals that connect this new structure with the other components of the campus. Commissioned artists are El Anatsui, Byung Hoon Choi, Carlos Cruz-Diez, Olafur Eliasson, Trenton Doyle Hancock, Cristina Iglesias, and Ai Weiwei. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I drive by this, and the Ion building, every day. Both have hit the overdrive button on working, 15+ people on site every morning doing various things when previously you would go a few days with very minimal movement on the site. The glass tube wrapping seems to now only have one large side and one tiny side left, when like in early September they had only done one side. Probably good for the construction guys and gals, Christmas is coming and overtime sounds pretty good right now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted November 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2019 http://www.allusanewshub.com/2019/11/07/steven-holl-designed-kinder-building-nears-completion-at-the-museum-fine-arts-houston/ 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 is this building... brutalist? 😲 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 9 hours ago, Avossos said: is this building... brutalist? 😲 I don’t think the Kinder building is brutalist. Whatever the style, though, I have to say that the overall aesthetic falls flat for me. The tubes on the outside are not very striking (hopefully they’ll be lit well at night — the evening photos above offer SOME hope) and the most interesting lines are the curved contours on the roof, which you can’t see. 🤷🏻♂️ I think the new Denver Art Museum is a lot more bold. IMHO the Glassell topples the Kinder Building aesthetically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Avossos said: is this building... brutalist? 😲 I would say the glass-tube façade (covering most of the raw concrete) would rule out brutalism. Maybe deconstructivist, at least in the massing and roof line. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear this building won't age well. There's still a lot of exposed raw concrete in the nooks and crannies, and these surfaces tend to stain and streak over time. It will also take a lot of maintenance to keep the backlit façade looking new. 3 hours ago, MarathonMan said: I don’t think the Kinder building is brutalist. Whatever the style, though, I have to say that the overall aesthetic falls flat for me. The tubes on the outside are not very striking (hopefully they’ll be lit well at night — the evening photos above offer SOME hope) and the most interesting lines are the curved contours on the roof, which you can’t see. 🤷🏻♂️ It's another example of a building designed to be striking as a model or rendering (or as viewed from a passing helicopter, I guess). This is not uncommon when the main function of the design is to convince potential donors to build it. How the building will actually be perceived by visitors and passers-by is a secondary concern at best, and entirely irrelevant if the thing never gets built. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Angostura said: I would say the glass-tube façade (covering most of the raw concrete) would rule out brutalism. Maybe deconstructivist, at least in the massing and roof line. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear this building won't age well. There's still a lot of exposed raw concrete in the nooks and crannies, and these surfaces tend to stain and streak over time. It will also take a lot of maintenance to keep the backlit façade looking new. It's another example of a building designed to be striking as a model or rendering (or as viewed from a passing helicopter, I guess). This is not uncommon when the main function of the design is to convince potential donors to build it. How the building will actually be perceived by visitors and passers-by is a secondary concern at best, and entirely irrelevant if the thing never gets built. In general it would fall under the label of Post-Modernism, of which Steven Holl was most influenced by, and looking at other Steven Holl works, he has normally approached architecture from a deconstructionist angle. You are most likely right, I'm simply buttressing your argument with what Steven Holl has been historically, and how he has approached architecture historically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Angostura said: How the building will actually be perceived by visitors and passers-by is a secondary concern at best, and entirely irrelevant if the thing never gets built. It was designed to have as much natural light coming in from the ceiling to make the inside bright and airy. How the building is perceived by visitors was very much a concern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Angostura said: It's another example of a building designed to be striking as a model or rendering (or as viewed from a passing helicopter, I guess). This is not uncommon when the main function of the design is to convince potential donors to build it. How the building will actually be perceived by visitors and passers-by is a secondary concern at best, and entirely irrelevant if the thing never gets built. 2 hours ago, jmitch94 said: It was designed to have as much natural light coming in from the ceiling to make the inside bright and airy. How the building is perceived by visitors was very much a concern. jmitch, you are correct. Likewise, how the building will be perceived by passers-by was very much a primary concern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: jmitch, you are correct. Likewise, how the building will be perceived by passers-by was very much a primary concern. Yes, yes, I'm sure they thought about it. But all the press materials show the building as viewed by someone passing by 200 feet in the air. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Angostura said: Yes, yes, I'm sure they thought about it. But all the press materials show the building as viewed by someone passing by 200 feet in the air. Even if true, that hardly demonstrates that little or no thought was given to how the building will be perceived by visitors or passers-by. Sorry, but your initial claim was just false. Edited November 8, 2019 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I actually don't see a lot of renderings viewed from above, unless from the top of the Glassell School and that is from a viewers perspective. Sure there are photos of models...but that is how people generally take photos of a models. There are also some drone photos of the construction site, but they tell a construction story, not a portrayal experience. Do a simple google search " MFAH Kinder Rendering " and it is almost all from a grounded viewer's perspective. https://www.google.com/search?q=mfah+kinder+renderings&sxsrf=ACYBGNRlIkw2f9PSXkGNwTq-vZfnMeKhSw:1573249113475&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE27TUydvlAhVJCKwKHZQYARkQ_AUIESgB&biw=1781&bih=879 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post MidCenturyMoldy Posted November 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) I was skeptical when I first saw the renderings and model...even when I saw the first glass tubes going up. Now I CAN'T WAIT for this sucker to be finished. Edited November 19, 2019 by MidCenturyMoldy 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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