lwood Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Has anyone heard what the schedule is for Tillman to reconstruct the Flagship Hotel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 For personal reasons, I hope that hotel and its pier crumble into the Gulf of Mexico. I give them the one-finger salute everytime I drive by. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabanaboy Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Has anyone heard what the schedule is for Tillman to reconstruct the Flagship Hotel?He has to kick the current tenant out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 He has to kick the current tenant out first.Actually, I think he has to BUY the current tenant out. Fertitta lost his lawsuit that the current tenant violated his lease. Unless it was overturned on appeal, that leaves a buyout or expiration of the lease as the only options. I think the lease runs to 2030 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapata Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 For personal reasons, I hope that hotel and its pier crumble into the Gulf of Mexico. I give them the one-finger salute everytime I drive by.Sorry to hear...Why is that...??? Can you disclosed what happened ..??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Sorry to hear...Why is that...??? Can you disclosed what happened ..???Long story short, some friends and I got arrested there for "criminal trespassing" about 15 years ago. Although we weren't guests of the hotel, we were parked in their parking lot...same as the 10 carloads of fishermen right next to us. However, we had a surfboard with us. As we were backing out of the parking spot to leave, a Galveston police car pulled up behind us, blocking us in. We were arrested and taken to jail for criminal trespass...but none of the fishermen were.We bailed ourselves out of jail that evening and went to court the next morning to defend ourselves in court. The Flagship employee there claimed that we were warned several times to leave, and that the police had been called. Both of those statements were untrue...we were never asked to leave at any time, nor did anyone warn us that the police were on their way. They also claimed that they had a sign posted at the entrance to the parking lot warning that no surfboards were allowed. That's true, there was a sign there AFTER we were bailed out of jail...a handwritten sign on construction paper, taped up at the entrance. The sign was not there when we pulled in. The Flagship employee (who identified herself as the manager) also testified that she was working the front desk when we pulled into the parking lot and that she could positively identify each of us as the people who pulled into the parking lot. She must have been one eagle-eyed lady to have identified three people inside a car in the split-second that we passed by the front door of the hotel.Basically, it was the word of the Flagship (big $$$ maker in Galveston) versus the word of three young college students from Houston. Despite being under oath, the Flagship employee told a number of blatant lies to the judge. Despite our protests, we were found guilty. Not a big deal, financially...our fines were $120 each (although that was about two months worth of entertainment expense for me at the time).After my one and only experience there, though, I have ZERO respect for the Flagship Hotel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The Galveston Daily News reported a couple of weeks ago that a deal had been reached between Landry's and the hotel operator, and Landry's would take over operations in about 5 years, instead of the 2030 lease deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpstown Bill Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 we stayed there several years ago & it was in horrible shape--rusty fixtures, creaky elevators & rude employees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) we stayed there several years ago & it was in horrible shape--rusty fixtures, creaky elevators & rude employeesIt's still like that. I went in a couple of months after Rita and was in sad, sad shape. Quite a few people from Beaumont and Louisiana were staying there. The hallways reeked of urine, there was blood smeared on the elevator walls, and the carpet in the lobby was soaking wet from a dripping air conditioner. I'm not blaming the evacuees, on the contrary I think the hotel staff and managers have done a horrible job keeping that place up. Edited April 10, 2006 by J.A.S.O.N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 It's still like that. I went in a couple of months after Rita and was in sad, sad shape. Quite a few people from Beaumont and Louisiana were staying there. The hallways reeked of urine, there was blood smeared on the elevator walls, and the carpet in the lobby was soaking wet from a dripping air conditioner. I'm not blaming the evacuees, on the contrary I think the hotel staff and managers have done a horrible job keeping that place up.It's really ashamed. The current owner has brain cancer, or claims to have, and is behind in IRS and sales tax payments. It took all of this lawsuit crap and Tillman Fertitta to rescue this site for future development, but for now Galveston has to put up with this pitiful place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97saturn Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Any update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 It's still like that. I went in a couple of months after Rita and was in sad, sad shape. Quite a few people from Beaumont and Louisiana were staying there. The hallways reeked of urine, there was blood smeared on the elevator walls, and the carpet in the lobby was soaking wet from a dripping air conditioner. I'm not blaming the evacuees, on the contrary I think the hotel staff and managers have done a horrible job keeping that place up.Someone should stay there for another night to see if it's still like that. If so, he or she needs to take photos and film videos of the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 (edited) Someone should stay there for another night to see if it's still like that. If so, he or she needs to take photos and film videos of the place.I stayed there last fall, in July or August as I recall; the evacuee population was gone. It was the crappiest hotel I've ever stayed in that was able to draw white middle-class families with children.No blood on the walls, no urine smell, no wet carpet (that I noticed). It wasn't clear that the elevator was not going to plummet to the bottom of the shaft, break through the floor, and send its occupants straight to the beach, however. And various light fixtures were missing. Edited April 18, 2008 by TheNiche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Has anyone heard what the schedule is for Tillman to reconstruct the Flagship Hotel?http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metrop...an/6500121.htmlThe Flagship Hotel, one of the most prominent features along the Seawall since it opened in 1965, will be torn down by owner Landry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Murdoch's looks like it is just about complete. The new building looks very similar to the original pre-1961 structure. Very nice rebuild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Anyone care to wager that there will not be a rolllercoaster and amusement park built where the 'ship' now stands???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Flagship looks to be outta here!http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/kho...n.1f7ec212.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 There may be a buyer for Galveston 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic08 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) The '04 plan would be oh so awesome...until a hurricane comes along. Darn 'canes! Edited July 1, 2009 by cosmic08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I can't wait for a brand new Flagship Hotel...so I can urinate on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanno Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) boy i dislike Landry's.... how can it be a "historical pier" if there wasn't any of that mess - rollar coaster etc before now? If they thought the place in Kemah was hit bad... what about that place! Edited July 5, 2009 by Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmulder Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 boy i dislike Landry's.... how can it be a "historical pier" if there wasn't any of that mess - rollar coaster etc before now? If they thought the place in Kemah was hit bad... what about that place! Everyone in Houston hates Landrys and fertita... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) Repairs, amusement rides planned for FlagshipBy Laura Elder The Daily News Published September 25, 2009GALVESTON — Landry’s Restaurants Inc. said it plans to repair the storied Flagship Hotel, where today curtains billow out through shattered windows and tourists stop to photograph gaping holes torn in outer walls by Hurricane Ike a year ago.Landry’s had said it would consider demolishing the hotel and developing a “pleasure pier” with amusement rides if a sale of the 44-year-old property fell through.But island native and Landry’s CEO Tilman Fertitta will move ahead with plans he made years ago to improve the troubled hotel, officials said this week.http://www.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=52c78399fa7b4021 Edited September 25, 2009 by Urbannizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Everyone in Houston hates Landrys and fertita... Everyone I know who's met Fertitta has said he's a royal jerkoff. Too bad Joe's Crabshack has those great crab nachos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnu Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Everyone I know who's met Fertitta has said he's a royal jerkoff. Too bad Joe's Crabshack has those great crab nachos.I don't think Fertitta (i.e. Landry's) owns Joe's Crab Shacks any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Yeah, Ignite Restaurant Group owns them now. They also own Brick House Tavern + Tap restaurants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Landry's announces Flagship plans Landry’s unveils plans for Flagship By Leigh Jones The Daily News Published October 29, 2009 GALVESTON — Officials with Landry’s Restaurants are planning to restore the Flagship Hotel and bring amusement rides back to the historic pier... http://galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=0f804b56d5183b76 An artist’s concept of what Landry’s pleasure pier at the Flagship Hotel will look like evokes the island’s pleasure piers of the past with a Ferris wheel and a carousel. Edited October 29, 2009 by J.A.S.O.N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 It's going to take more than a ferris wheel to fix that place up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) It's going to take more than a ferris wheel to fix that place up. That's why it's also getting a carousel. Edit: your car may need to pull a Dukes of Hazzard jump to get to the parking lot, but still... it'll have a carousel! Edited October 29, 2009 by AtticaFlinch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 It's going to take more than a ferris wheel to fix that place up. And Chart House restaurant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaE Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) I'm not a big fan of chain restaurant developers, but I would like to see the property cleaned up, and returned to it's roots. That rendering is a really good one. Even without a hotel, it's a nice idea. But they better get some good insurance, if they proceed. That Flagship has been nasty looking, for years. Would be nice to see it go. Oh, they are going to keep the hotel, and restore it. I think just a restaurant would be nice. Edited October 30, 2009 by NenaE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) I thought a pool on the roof would have been much more cool, with another attraction at the end of the pier, but that's just me. This view would be awsome from a lit pool and cabana on a warm summer night/day (actual views from the Flagship hotel)... Edited October 30, 2009 by J.A.S.O.N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchtastic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Wow! That last pic makes the Galveston surf look like the Amalfi Coast. Photoshop rules!This is one instance where I can't hate on Tilman. The important thing is bringing back the hotel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nice shot of the Balinese Room. I miss it a lot more than the Flagship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Wow! That last pic makes the Galveston surf look like the Amalfi Coast. Photoshop rules!This is one instance where I can't hate on Tilman. The important thing is bringing back the hotel.Yup. For as much as I despise Kemah, if he pulls this off, I will tip my hat to him. This is what the Flagship used to be, and this is what it needs to come back. I wish him luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Blue water and white sands in Galveston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Blue water and white sands in Galveston? That's phase II of the Flagship rebuild. After the hotel and pier have been fixed, and all sorts of cool doodads put in, Fertitta's going to pull all the silt out of the Gulf water. I'm not saying Fertitta is God, but I think it's self-evident he's at least god-like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) That's phase II of the Flagship rebuild. After the hotel and pier have been fixed, and all sorts of cool doodads put in, Fertitta's going to pull all the silt out of the Gulf water. I'm not saying Fertitta is God, but I think it's self-evident he's at least god-like. Actually guys this is not a photoshop. Sometimes the water IS this color, though very,VERY rare. Edited October 31, 2009 by J.A.S.O.N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFlinch Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Actually guys this is not a photoshop. Sometimes the water IS this color, though very,VERY rare.http://www.flickr.co...e57/2420691172/This may sound far fetched and a bit like an easily dismissed conspiracy theory, but hear me out. I have the understanding Galveston used to have bluer waters for a long time. What changed was that so many Gulf waterways from the Mississippi River to Brays Bayou were concreted, causing silt which would have normally settled along the waterway banks to float out into the Gulf. The brown isn't caused by garbage. It's caused by silt. Had the silt had the opportunity to settle before making it into the Gulf, it would have. But, it didn't. The only place to go was the Gulf, and as a result now Galveston has brown, dirty-looking water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaE Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I actually saw Galveston water with a very clear-green color one time. It wasn't it's usual murky brown color. Was a couple of yrs. ago, in the spring/ early summer months, was still a little cool outside. My sister & I grew up going to nasty Galveston, we actually were out in the water, and on the beach, not believing it. Figured it had something to do with the weather, recent rain, and/ or movement of water into the Gulf, or tides. Was very unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 i hope tilman actually gets the ball rolling. this announcement comes shortly after the city places pressure on him to upgrade the property as promised. i wonder if it is simply to buy time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T 2 THA C Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Concrete ramp to Flagship Hotel torn downChron Galveston UpdateLooks like work has finaly started on the Galveston Island Historic Pleasure Pier Hotel and Resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I'll take pictures, soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I actually saw Galveston water with a very clear-green color one time. It wasn't it's usual murky brown color. Was a couple of yrs. ago, in the spring/ early summer months, was still a little cool outside. My sister & I grew up going to nasty Galveston, we actually were out in the water, and on the beach, not believing it. Figured it had something to do with the weather, recent rain, and/ or movement of water into the Gulf, or tides. Was very unusual.There are at least 30 to 40 days of blue water in Galveston annualy. As a fisherman you learn to wait for the Southeast winds to blow for at least 3 or 4 days, which brings in the blue water, which brings in the Specs. In other words, you have to have a strong Southeast winds for a number of days for the blue water to make it to shore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmer Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 As a fisherman you learn to wait for the Southeast winds to blow for at least 3 or 4 days, which brings in the blue water, which brings in the Specs. I thought we already had a Spec's downtown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 They've put up more barricades around what was the entraces of the Hotel and the ramp is gone. (sorry for the poor quality) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick ניק Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Looks like the hotel *may* be coming down instead of being remodeled/rebuilt.http://www.galvestondailynews.com/blog/3750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaE Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 (edited) I don't see the logic in rebuilding a hotel that sits on the wrong side of the seawall...especially after the recent hurricane destruction. I was in Galveston a couple of weeks ago for the first time since the hurricane hit, and thought I saw new construction activity, a big crane, not a wrecking ball on the west side of the Flagship. PS - the link above doesn't work. Edited August 28, 2010 by NenaE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 You have to be a subscriber to the Galveston Daily News to read the online edition. I have heard the Flagship will be torn down and a Coney Island type boardwalk will go up, similar I'm sure to Seabrook. Might as well. That hotel was in bad shape before the storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick ניק Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 (edited) You have to be a subscriber to the Galveston Daily News to read the online edition. I have heard the Flagship will be torn down and a Coney Island type boardwalk will go up, similar I'm sure to Seabrook. Might as well. That hotel was in bad shape before the storm. Actually, thats incorrect, you don't have to be a subscriber. However it does appear their website is currently down, which is why the link won't load. Edited August 28, 2010 by Nick ניק Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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