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He has to kick the current tenant out first.

Actually, I think he has to BUY the current tenant out. Fertitta lost his lawsuit that the current tenant violated his lease. Unless it was overturned on appeal, that leaves a buyout or expiration of the lease as the only options. I think the lease runs to 2030 or so.

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For personal reasons, I hope that hotel and its pier crumble into the Gulf of Mexico. I give them the one-finger salute everytime I drive by.

Sorry to hear...Why is that...??? Can you disclosed what happened ..???

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Sorry to hear...Why is that...??? Can you disclosed what happened ..???

Long story short, some friends and I got arrested there for "criminal trespassing" about 15 years ago. Although we weren't guests of the hotel, we were parked in their parking lot...same as the 10 carloads of fishermen right next to us. However, we had a surfboard with us. As we were backing out of the parking spot to leave, a Galveston police car pulled up behind us, blocking us in. We were arrested and taken to jail for criminal trespass...but none of the fishermen were.

We bailed ourselves out of jail that evening and went to court the next morning to defend ourselves in court. The Flagship employee there claimed that we were warned several times to leave, and that the police had been called. Both of those statements were untrue...we were never asked to leave at any time, nor did anyone warn us that the police were on their way. They also claimed that they had a sign posted at the entrance to the parking lot warning that no surfboards were allowed. That's true, there was a sign there AFTER we were bailed out of jail...a handwritten sign on construction paper, taped up at the entrance. The sign was not there when we pulled in. The Flagship employee (who identified herself as the manager) also testified that she was working the front desk when we pulled into the parking lot and that she could positively identify each of us as the people who pulled into the parking lot. She must have been one eagle-eyed lady to have identified three people inside a car in the split-second that we passed by the front door of the hotel.

Basically, it was the word of the Flagship (big $$$ maker in Galveston) versus the word of three young college students from Houston. Despite being under oath, the Flagship employee told a number of blatant lies to the judge. Despite our protests, we were found guilty. Not a big deal, financially...our fines were $120 each (although that was about two months worth of entertainment expense for me at the time).

After my one and only experience there, though, I have ZERO respect for the Flagship Hotel.

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we stayed there several years ago & it was in horrible shape--rusty fixtures, creaky elevators & rude employees

It's still like that. I went in a couple of months after Rita and was in sad, sad shape. Quite a few people from Beaumont and Louisiana were staying there. The hallways reeked of urine, there was blood smeared on the elevator walls, and the carpet in the lobby was soaking wet from a dripping air conditioner. I'm not blaming the evacuees, on the contrary I think the hotel staff and managers have done a horrible job keeping that place up.

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It's still like that. I went in a couple of months after Rita and was in sad, sad shape. Quite a few people from Beaumont and Louisiana were staying there. The hallways reeked of urine, there was blood smeared on the elevator walls, and the carpet in the lobby was soaking wet from a dripping air conditioner. I'm not blaming the evacuees, on the contrary I think the hotel staff and managers have done a horrible job keeping that place up.

It's really ashamed. The current owner has brain cancer, or claims to have, and is behind in IRS and sales tax payments. It took all of this lawsuit crap and Tillman Fertitta to rescue this site for future development, but for now Galveston has to put up with this pitiful place.

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It's still like that. I went in a couple of months after Rita and was in sad, sad shape. Quite a few people from Beaumont and Louisiana were staying there. The hallways reeked of urine, there was blood smeared on the elevator walls, and the carpet in the lobby was soaking wet from a dripping air conditioner. I'm not blaming the evacuees, on the contrary I think the hotel staff and managers have done a horrible job keeping that place up.

Someone should stay there for another night to see if it's still like that. If so, he or she needs to take photos and film videos of the place.

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Someone should stay there for another night to see if it's still like that. If so, he or she needs to take photos and film videos of the place.

I stayed there last fall, in July or August as I recall; the evacuee population was gone. It was the crappiest hotel I've ever stayed in that was able to draw white middle-class families with children.

No blood on the walls, no urine smell, no wet carpet (that I noticed). It wasn't clear that the elevator was not going to plummet to the bottom of the shaft, break through the floor, and send its occupants straight to the beach, however. And various light fixtures were missing.

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boy i dislike Landry's.... how can it be a "historical pier" if there wasn't any of that mess - rollar coaster etc before now?

If they thought the place in Kemah was hit bad... what about that place!

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boy i dislike Landry's.... how can it be a "historical pier" if there wasn't any of that mess - rollar coaster etc before now?

If they thought the place in Kemah was hit bad... what about that place!

Everyone in Houston hates Landrys and fertita... :wacko:

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Repairs, amusement rides planned for Flagship

By Laura Elder

The Daily News Published September 25, 2009

GALVESTON — Landry’s Restaurants Inc. said it plans to repair the storied Flagship Hotel, where today curtains billow out through shattered windows and tourists stop to photograph gaping holes torn in outer walls by Hurricane Ike a year ago.

Landry’s had said it would consider demolishing the hotel and developing a “pleasure pier” with amusement rides if a sale of the 44-year-old property fell through.

But island native and Landry’s CEO Tilman Fertitta will move ahead with plans he made years ago to improve the troubled hotel, officials said this week.

http://www.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=52c78399fa7b4021

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Landry's announces Flagship plans

Landry’s unveils plans for Flagship

By Leigh Jones

The Daily News

Published October 29, 2009

GALVESTON — Officials with Landry’s Restaurants are planning to restore the Flagship Hotel and bring amusement rides back to the historic pier...

http://galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=0f804b56d5183b76

An artist’s concept of what Landry’s pleasure pier at the Flagship Hotel will look like evokes the island’s pleasure piers of the past with a Ferris wheel and a carousel.

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It's going to take more than a ferris wheel to fix that place up.

That's why it's also getting a carousel.

Edit: your car may need to pull a Dukes of Hazzard jump to get to the parking lot, but still... it'll have a carousel!

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I'm not a big fan of chain restaurant developers, but I would like to see the property cleaned up, and returned to it's roots. That rendering is a really good one. Even without a hotel, it's a nice idea. But they better get some good insurance, if they proceed. That Flagship has been nasty looking, for years. Would be nice to see it go.

Oh, they are going to keep the hotel, and restore it. I think just a restaurant would be nice.

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I thought a pool on the roof would have been much more cool, with another attraction at the end of the pier, but that's just me.

This view would be awsome from a lit pool and cabana on a warm summer night/day (actual views from the Flagship hotel)...

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Wow! That last pic makes the Galveston surf look like the Amalfi Coast. Photoshop rules!

This is one instance where I can't hate on Tilman. The important thing is bringing back the hotel.

Yup. For as much as I despise Kemah, if he pulls this off, I will tip my hat to him. This is what the Flagship used to be, and this is what it needs to come back. I wish him luck.

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Blue water and white sands in Galveston? blink.gif

That's phase II of the Flagship rebuild. After the hotel and pier have been fixed, and all sorts of cool doodads put in, Fertitta's going to pull all the silt out of the Gulf water.

I'm not saying Fertitta is God, but I think it's self-evident he's at least god-like.

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That's phase II of the Flagship rebuild. After the hotel and pier have been fixed, and all sorts of cool doodads put in, Fertitta's going to pull all the silt out of the Gulf water.

I'm not saying Fertitta is God, but I think it's self-evident he's at least god-like.

Actually guys this is not a photoshop. Sometimes the water IS this color, though very,VERY rare.

Galveston Oh Galveston

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Actually guys this is not a photoshop. Sometimes the water IS this color, though very,VERY rare.

http://www.flickr.co...e57/2420691172/

This may sound far fetched and a bit like an easily dismissed conspiracy theory, but hear me out. I have the understanding Galveston used to have bluer waters for a long time. What changed was that so many Gulf waterways from the Mississippi River to Brays Bayou were concreted, causing silt which would have normally settled along the waterway banks to float out into the Gulf. The brown isn't caused by garbage. It's caused by silt. Had the silt had the opportunity to settle before making it into the Gulf, it would have. But, it didn't. The only place to go was the Gulf, and as a result now Galveston has brown, dirty-looking water.

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I actually saw Galveston water with a very clear-green color one time. It wasn't it's usual murky brown color. Was a couple of yrs. ago, in the spring/ early summer months, was still a little cool outside. My sister & I grew up going to nasty Galveston, we actually were out in the water, and on the beach, not believing it. Figured it had something to do with the weather, recent rain, and/ or movement of water into the Gulf, or tides. Was very unusual.

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I actually saw Galveston water with a very clear-green color one time. It wasn't it's usual murky brown color. Was a couple of yrs. ago, in the spring/ early summer months, was still a little cool outside. My sister & I grew up going to nasty Galveston, we actually were out in the water, and on the beach, not believing it. Figured it had something to do with the weather, recent rain, and/ or movement of water into the Gulf, or tides. Was very unusual.

There are at least 30 to 40 days of blue water in Galveston annualy. As a fisherman you learn to wait for the Southeast winds to blow for at least 3 or 4 days, which brings in the blue water, which brings in the Specs. In other words, you have to have a strong Southeast winds for a number of days for the blue water to make it to shore.

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I don't see the logic in rebuilding a hotel that sits on the wrong side of the seawall...especially after the recent hurricane destruction.

I was in Galveston a couple of weeks ago for the first time since the hurricane hit, and thought I saw new construction activity, a big crane, not a wrecking ball on the west side of the Flagship.

PS - the link above doesn't work.

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You have to be a subscriber to the Galveston Daily News to read the online edition. I have heard the Flagship will be torn down and a Coney Island type boardwalk will go up, similar I'm sure to Seabrook.  Might as well. That hotel was in bad shape before the storm. 

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You have to be a subscriber to the Galveston Daily News to read the online edition. I have heard the Flagship will be torn down and a Coney Island type boardwalk will go up, similar I'm sure to Seabrook. Might as well. That hotel was in bad shape before the storm.

Actually, thats incorrect, you don't have to be a subscriber. However it does appear their website is currently down, which is why the link won't load.

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