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26 minutes ago, hindesky said:

Does Jim Crane own this property? If he does I wonder if it will be for parking or is this part of the planned entertainment renovations around the ballpark.

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12 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

From what I understand, Crane owns every lot surrounding the ballpark. I don't know if that includes Joystix, but if it does, I hope Crane doesn't try to run them out of business and works with them. 

Ownership changed in 2015. Mailing address for owner is listed as 501 Crawford St, which is Minute Maid Park. 

Joystix showing an allowed obscurable owner name of "Current Owner" and a mailing address of their building, so I'm guessing Crane does not own it. 

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53 minutes ago, hindesky said:

Does Jim Crane own this property? If he does I wonder if it will be for parking or is this part of the planned entertainment renovations around the ballpark.

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Crane owns the lot. It will be a parking lot for now 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/food-culture/restaurants-bars/article/Downtown-s-Jackson-Street-BBQ-closes-after-8-16991784.php

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On 5/16/2022 at 4:19 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

Is it? There are like 20 lots in that proximity, not to mention the countless garages

That was sarcasm lol. The aerial picture a few posts above is so depressing lol. 

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Over in the Minute Maid Mixed Use thread, there was a report of Crane talking big on developing a "district" around the park like Wrigleyville.  The old lots that used to have the BUS bar, the private jail off Crawford and now this are all his, I think.  Sound like a ton of property to work with, hope he gets after it soon. 

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5 hours ago, Nate99 said:

Over in the Minute Maid Mixed Use thread, there was a report of Crane talking big on developing a "district" around the park like Wrigleyville.  The old lots that used to have the BUS bar, the private jail off Crawford and now this are all his, I think.  Sound like a ton of property to work with, hope he gets after it soon. 

From what I understand, in an agreement with the city, he was given 4 years to get something out of the ground. It's already been 2 years since that agreement and he said about 4 months ago something would happen in roughly a year. So based off all of that, I'm expecting a groundbreaking some time in Fall on some part of the plan. 

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On 5/18/2022 at 8:58 AM, H-Town Man said:

To those neighborhoods that have not, even what they have will be taken away.

Hope it turns around soon, esp. before inflation, interest rates, and possible recession make new construction unfeasible.

I don't think anything happens around these ballpark blocks until next cycle. Probably best to wait until after NHHIP finishes the 59 section also. CPI comes out in a couple weeks, and don't really see inflation peaking yet. The Atlanta FED just put out a forecast predicting negative GDP for Q2. Its all but certain we go into a recession starting Q3. This was a great cycle overall. This area will surely explode next cycle.

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On 6/30/2022 at 5:40 PM, Luminare said:

I don't think anything happens around these ballpark blocks until next cycle. Probably best to wait until after NHHIP finishes the 59 section also. CPI comes out in a couple weeks, and don't really see inflation peaking yet. The Atlanta FED just put out a forecast predicting negative GDP for Q2. Its all but certain we go into a recession starting Q3. This was a great cycle overall. This area will surely explode next cycle.

Well then Crane is running out of time. He said this year we would see construction. The agreement he made with the city is almost up. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 10:24 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

From what I understand, in an agreement with the city, he was given 4 years to get something out of the ground. It's already been 2 years since that agreement and he said about 4 months ago something would happen in roughly a year. So based off all of that, I'm expecting a groundbreaking some time in Fall on some part of the plan. 

The agreement Crane has with the city is only for the home plate site on Texas @ ADLA. This site will be a mixed used ballpark development project. 
 

Not sure what Crane’s plans are for the other parcels of land he owns around the ballpark. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 10:24 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

From what I understand, in an agreement with the city, he was given 4 years to get something out of the ground. It's already been 2 years since that agreement and he said about 4 months ago something would happen in roughly a year. So based off all of that, I'm expecting a groundbreaking some time in Fall on some part of the plan. 

At this point, probably not until after the World Series.  I would guess very shortly after...

I'm curious about this agreement with the city.   I found a Chronicle article that reported that "When city council approved of some of the plans for the land in May of 2020, said Benton, the Astros agreed it would begin its mixed-use development within four years and bring the plans to the city for review."   I'd love to get a look at the agreement to see what is actually required.  (No, I don't trust the Chronicle to have gotten it right...)

In the process of looking for information about the purchase agreement, I discovered something interesting about the locomotive.  The original plan was for the Astros to move the locomotive to a site closer to the stadium, on the Preston Street side near the Right Field gate, where it would be on display and also serve as part of the security measures for the stadium.  Prior to the relocation being completed, the Texas Railroad Preservation Association basically asked if they could have the locomotive for their planned museum in EADO.  So the relocation was paused while they worked things out with the owner of the locomotive (the Jaycees).

 

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5 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

At this point, probably not until after the World Series.  I'm curious about this supposed agreement with the city.  I don't think I've heard anything about this before. What did the Astros get in exchange for a promise to have something out of the ground within 4 years?

I have no clue, I just remember reading about it. Maybe there are incentives for building within that timeframe. 

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24 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

I have no clue, I just remember reading about it. Maybe there are incentives for building within that timeframe. 

Sorry, our posts overlapped.  I edited mine with information I found (not a whole lot of information).  Suffice to say it was (according to the Chronicle) of the agreement for Crane's purchase of that property from the City.

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