hindesky Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Did they close this location due to the construction on S. Shepherd or will it be converted into something else? It's fenced off with construction fencing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.33 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I think it has been permanently closed for over a year now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I have a good feeling it's more parking for the Pappa's next door. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATH Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 When will Little Pappas Seafood reopen? Any ideas? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 16 hours ago, ATH said: When will Little Pappas Seafood reopen? Any ideas? They were supposed to start hiring in January, but at the time this piece was published hadn't yet specified a reopening date: Pappas Restaurants to reopen Little Pappas Seafood House 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Fingers crossed its not more parking on a street thats getting rebuilt to be more walkable 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Amlaham said: Fingers crossed its not more parking on a street thats getting rebuilt to be more walkable 😅 Why not? People can drive there and then walk around. Win win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 15 hours ago, august948 said: Why not? People can drive there and then walk around. Win win. If its a parking lot for Papa's, people can't just park here and walk around. Plus there's already tons of parking in the area. Also, across the street where CVS is, used to be street level retail thats now a suburban style building. Trader Joe's has its front style parking as well. So the intersection is going to look anything but walkable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Amlaham said: If its a parking lot for Papa's, people can't just park here and walk around. Plus there's already tons of parking in the area. Also, across the street where CVS is, used to be street level retail thats now a suburban style building. Trader Joe's has its front style parking as well. So the intersection is going to look anything but walkable. What used to be where CVS is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Houston19514 said: What used to be where CVS is? And its crazy to me because this entire building fits in the parking lot of the current CVS Edited April 23, 2022 by Amlaham 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted April 23, 2022 Author Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) Used to go to Ruchi's after many concerts. It was really cool when they had the one man band dude playing songs for all the drunks. People would all be singing along to all the Mexican songs. Fun times. Edited April 23, 2022 by hindesky 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 14 hours ago, Amlaham said: If its a parking lot for Papa's, people can't just park here and walk around. Plus there's already tons of parking in the area. Also, across the street where CVS is, used to be street level retail thats now a suburban style building. Trader Joe's has its front style parking as well. So the intersection is going to look anything but walkable. Depends on if they police the parking. Or, you can have a meal at Pappa's and then walk around. Does a street have to look a certain way in order to be walkable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 No, but it has to have things to walk to. Parking lots take up a lot of space and don't really count as things to walk to. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, august948 said: Depends on if they police the parking. Or, you can have a meal at Pappa's and then walk around. Does a street have to look a certain way in order to be walkable? It seems kind of contradicting to walk on street lined parking lots. The side of some highways have sidewalks, doesn't make it walkable. I think its pretty obvious the street/ businesses have to cater to pedestrians for it to be walkable. When people walk/ choose to walk, its for the experience, the window displays, shade from trees, safety, etc. No one wants to walk between parked cars and dodging flying cars at the entrances of these parking lots. Edited April 24, 2022 by Amlaham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Texasota said: No, but it has to have things to walk to. Parking lots take up a lot of space and don't really count as things to walk to. No, but they do count as a way for people to get into an area so they can walk around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Amlaham said: It seems kind of contradicting to walk on street lined parking lots. The side of some highways have sidewalks, doesn't make it walkable. I think its pretty obvious the street/ businesses have to cater to pedestrians for it to be walkable. When people walk/ choose to walk, its for the experience, the window displays, shade from trees, safety, etc. No one wants to walk between parked cars and dodging flying cars at the entrances of these parking lots. If you can walk there, then it's walkable. Whether or not you find it an interesting place to walk around is a completely different thing. I'm sure, though, if the market is there then those parking lots will be eventually replaced by retail of some sort. But, if they've been tearing down retail space to build parking lots then it seems now is not that time. I hadn't heard that they have flying cars there. That sounds awesome. Are they fixed wing or vtol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 What exactly is your issue here? You know full well that when people use the term "walkable" they typically mean a lot more than just being physically able to walk somewhere. Regardless of terminology, a parking lot would be a huge waste at this location and exacerbate the wastefulness of the CVS development on the other corner. Right now, this can be an unpleasant (and unsafe) intersection to cross on foot. A parking lot does nothing to change that, a building at least potentially could help. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Texasota said: What exactly is your issue here? You know full well that when people use the term "walkable" they typically mean a lot more than just being physically able to walk somewhere. Regardless of terminology, a parking lot would be a huge waste at this location and exacerbate the wastefulness of the CVS development on the other corner. Right now, this can be an unpleasant (and unsafe) intersection to cross on foot. A parking lot does nothing to change that, a building at least potentially could help. No issues here. Pappa's or any of the other landowners in the area can do whatever they feel is best for them and the land they own. As for a parking lot being a huge waste, that would only be true if it isn't used. I would think that land prices at this location would be such that the businesses there wouldn't leave land fallow for long. So, if a parking lot does turn out to be the use here (something that isn't clear to me to be the case) and said lot doesn't get used, it's more likely that it will be redeveloped sooner rather than later to something more economically viable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 1:03 PM, hindesky said: Used to go to Ruchi's after many concerts. It was really cool when they had the one man band dude playing songs for all the drunks. People would all be singing along to all the Mexican songs. Fun times. probably saw you there then because this was my "after concert go to" as well! haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 hours ago, august948 said: If you can walk there, then it's walkable. Whether or not you find it an interesting place to walk around is a completely different thing. I'm sure, though, if the market is there then those parking lots will be eventually replaced by retail of some sort. But, if they've been tearing down retail space to build parking lots then it seems now is not that time. I hadn't heard that they have flying cars there. That sounds awesome. Are they fixed wing or vtol? By your definition, the Sahara desert is walkable because you can walk there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, Amlaham said: By your definition, the Sahara desert is walkable because you can walk there. Well you have to swim first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Amlaham said: By your definition, the Sahara desert is walkable because you can walk there. I suppose it can be if they put in sidewalks..but the heat and sand can be a bit of an impediment to walking as it stands. It's not a particularly interesting place to walk, though. Are we suggesting that this spot is comparable to the world's largest desert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 hours ago, mattyt36 said: Well you have to swim first! Why swim when you can take a motorized vehicle of some sort to get there? Seems like this might be a good application for those flying cars on Shepherd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amlaham Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, august948 said: I suppose it can be if they put in sidewalks..but the heat and sand can be a bit of an impediment to walking as it stands. It's not a particularly interesting place to walk, though. Are we suggesting that this spot is comparable to the world's largest desert? Its to show that just because you can walk somewhere, doesn't make it "walkable." Let's agree to disagree on the term "walkable." My final example, theres a reason why areas that have larger sidewalks with street facing retail have more people walking around (midtown, downtown, medical center) than in areas that just have a sidewalk with businesses not catering to the "walker" (Bellaire, westheimer west of the galleria area, etc). Do you really not understand what makes a place "walkable" and get people to actually walk around (especially on main streets) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Amlaham said: Its to show that just because you can walk somewhere, doesn't make it "walkable." Let's agree to disagree on the term "walkable." My final example, theres a reason why areas that have larger sidewalks with street facing retail have more people walking around (midtown, downtown, medical center) than in areas that just have a sidewalk with businesses not catering to the "walker" (Bellaire, westheimer west of the galleria area, etc). Do you really not understand what makes a place "walkable" and get people to actually walk around (especially on main streets) Not quite sure what you mean by businesses catering to the "walker". Shoe stores, perhaps? Is the intent here to induce demand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Well that's more than enough. Can we roll it back to the picture of Ruchi's at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, august948 said: Why swim when you can take a motorized vehicle of some sort to get there? Seems like this might be a good application for those flying cars on Shepherd. Well when Shepherd is extended to the Sahara, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, mattyt36 said: Well when Shepherd is extended to the Sahara, let me know. No need. The Sahara comes to us. https://www.click2houston.com/weather/2020/06/29/the-dust-came-but-why/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, Texasota said: Well that's more than enough. Can we roll it back to the picture of Ruchi's at this point? We can, but looking at a Mexican restaurant makes me hungry. Back to more parking for Pappa's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arboosto Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 9:27 AM, Houston19514 said: What used to be where CVS is? There also used to be a dog shelter (K-9 Angels) and vet in the two houses at the west end of the current CVS lot. I would foster and walk dogs with K-9 Angels back when they were at that location. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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