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Trains coming south from the Northline Transit Center (the planned terminus of the first extension) not be able to continue onto the existing Main St. line as currently planned and complete their trip at the Fannin South Park and Ride. People going between the north side and Medical Center will have to transfer trains. And, with a new technology, that means probably another expensive train barn and maintenance facility will have to be built, or major modifications will have to be made to the train barn at Fannin South, along with a connector line between it and the "new technology" lines. That just adds to the cost of extending the system.

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14 hours ago, Justin Welling said:

METRO will be replacing the existing transit center and building a new garage facility near the existing property with a variety of enhancements including new bus bays. Style will be similar to Lower Uptown TC. 

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https://www.ridemetro.org/Pages/TC-Northline.aspx

I wonder if the I-45 rebuild could incorporate a direct connection from the Managed Lanes to this transit center? The only big obstacle seems to be a surface parking lot.

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I asked METRO last year about this project and why they needed to spend tens of millions on a parking garage when so many bus stations don't even have benches. (no real answer given)

They are also paying for a new traffic light on the basis of the increased traffic for their 500 parking spot garage.

At the time, there were no plans to even harge for parking in this garage. Love having our transit agency subsidize car drivers. 

 

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1 hour ago, wilcal said:

I asked METRO last year about this project and why they needed to spend tens of millions on a parking garage when so many bus stations don't even have benches. (no real answer given)

They are also paying for a new traffic light on the basis of the increased traffic for their 500 parking spot garage.

At the time, there were no plans to even harge for parking in this garage. Love having our transit agency subsidize car drivers. 

 

Building a free garage at that site should provide an incentive for people to park there and take the Red Line to Downtown, rather than paying for parking Downtown. If you want people to take public transport, especially rail, there has to be a place to park the car they will drive to get to the rail station.

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2 minutes ago, Ross said:

Building a free garage at that site should provide an incentive for people to park there and take the Red Line to Downtown, rather than paying for parking Downtown. If you want people to take public transport, especially rail, there has to be a place to park the car they will drive to get to the rail station.

If this was a park and ride with no local connection service, then fine, but this is a transit center with numerous connecting local lines. Where do these people live that are needing to drive to this transit center so they can take the light rail into town?

Also, remember that they charge for the parking lot at the other end of the light rail!

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3 hours ago, wilcal said:

If this was a park and ride with no local connection service, then fine, but this is a transit center with numerous connecting local lines. Where do these people live that are needing to drive to this transit center so they can take the light rail into town?

Also, remember that they charge for the parking lot at the other end of the light rail!

People will drive and park somewhere to reduce the number of connections. A friend who used to work Downtown and lives in Shepherd Park would drive to the CVS at Shepherd and 43rd/Crosstimbers, and take the bus from there directly to Downtown. He said that was far more reliable than taking a bus to get to the Downtown bus. There's going to be people who work downtown, but find it more convenient to drive to Northline, then take rail. Especially people who don't like buses.

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On 8/5/2022 at 8:23 AM, wilcal said:

I asked METRO last year about this project and why they needed to spend tens of millions on a parking garage when so many bus stations don't even have benches. (no real answer given)

FWIW, Metro also has a very large and ongoing project to add shelters, benches and generally improve thousands of bus stops.

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On 8/5/2022 at 8:23 AM, wilcal said:

I asked METRO last year about this project and why they needed to spend tens of millions on a parking garage when so many bus stations don't even have benches. (no real answer given)

They are also paying for a new traffic light on the basis of the increased traffic for their 500 parking spot garage.

At the time, there were no plans to even harge for parking in this garage. Love having our transit agency subsidize car drivers. 

 

Per Metro's responses to Questions at public meetings for this project, no decision has been made regarding charging for parking or not. (That is quite different from "no plans to even charge for parking . . . ".)  They are taking comments and suggestions on that topic and anything else related to the project. 

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On 8/29/2022 at 3:59 PM, Houston19514 said:

Per Metro's responses to Questions at public meetings for this project, no decision has been made regarding charging for parking or not. (That is quite different from "no plans to even charge for parking . . . ".)  They are taking comments and suggestions on that topic and anything else related to the project. 

People dig free parking.  I've seen towns in Illinois and Connecticut that put in free public parking at train stations in order to encourage people to use the train.  Seems to me that the cost could be covered by federal clean air money, or something similar.

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On 8/5/2022 at 12:39 PM, Ross said:

People will drive and park somewhere to reduce the number of connections. A friend who used to work Downtown and lives in Shepherd Park would drive to the CVS at Shepherd and 43rd/Crosstimbers, and take the bus from there directly to Downtown. He said that was far more reliable than taking a bus to get to the Downtown bus. There's going to be people who work downtown, but find it more convenient to drive to Northline, then take rail. Especially people who don't like buses.

Yep I used to do that daily when I lived in the Spring Branch area. I believe my bus was the 36 at the time, and then I would take the train all the way to Midtown where I worked. 

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