houstonray Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 A bank next to a bank. A starbucks in Target and a Starbucks out of Target (according to one plan). Let's just hope we don't get a Sprint next to a Cingular... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westguy76 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 The plan was always for a regular target with an expanded grocery section, not a super target. It has a coffee place up front (starbucks).Like all other targets it serves the function of convenience. It seems maybe some of the visitors to this target were expecting a different store. It is built like any other target. I live in the heights and use it for the function it serves. This is for kitchen and bathroom items that I can easily run over to target and get at fair prices. The expanded grocery section allows me to get OJ, milk, bread or other items that I run out of. It definitely is more convenient than any other place in the vicinity. Overall this is a plus for the neighborhood. On another note the demolition of the old warehouse on the north side of Sawyer heights is complete. As soon as the torn down material is trucked away the progress for the heights can continue. Also, the new bank on the property is coming along just fine. It will be a fine building! This is where the apatments are going where the warehouses are torn down, I posted a picture over a month ago in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyps Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Just got off the phone with someone from the PM company (super nice). I took the opportunity to ask her what was happening here. She told me the following (and gave me permission to share). I wont lie to you. This isn't the best of news...Confirmed...Chick Fil AAmerican MattressPayless ShoesBanks we already know aboutIn the works...ChilisStarbucksShe didn't know anything about a 24 hour fitness, urban myth I guess. They left space for Target to be able to expand into a SuperTarget if they choose.The apartments are supposed to be high end, so maybe that will drive better future options than mattresses and cheap shoes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Confirmed...Chick Fil AAmerican MattressPayless ShoesBanks we already know aboutIn the works...ChilisStarbucksHere comes suburbia..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Just got off the phone with someone from the PM company (super nice). I took the opportunity to ask her what was happening here. She told me the following (and gave me permission to share). I wont lie to you. This isn't the best of news...Confirmed...Chick Fil AAmerican MattressPayless ShoesBanks we already know aboutIn the works...ChilisStarbucksShe didn't know anything about a 24 hour fitness, urban myth I guess. They left space for Target to be able to expand into a SuperTarget if they choose.The apartments are supposed to be high end, so maybe that will drive better future options than mattresses and cheap shoes...Oh joy, all we are missing is a pay-day loan place and a dry cleaners. Guess I'm not getting the HEB I was hoping for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 WHAT! No cell phone store? What the hell is the matter with these people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokieone Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Wow, Chili's thats awesome. I mean I know I look at all the restaurants inside the loop, with variety and are locally operated and a unique experience, and just wish a Chili's would come in. Nothing like pretending I was in the woodlands when there is something much, much better just down the street.....I'll be curious to hear which best buy rumor is true - half the people think its going by Gulfgate and half think its going in the Sawyer Heights area. How is the mattress/ cheap shoe market not saturated yet? Do people buy new matresses every 3 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 How is the mattress/ cheap shoe market not saturated yet? Do people buy new matresses every 3 months?I've been wondering the same thing. I mean, it's not like they're cheap either. How does a store that sells name brand (read: expensive) matresses stay in business at Shepherd/11th?I just don't get why these companies or developers feel this kind of stuff is needed in this location? You know one of the worst parts about the Chili's? If and when it closes, it will sit vacant forever b/c no one wants to start a local restaurant with the cost of making the building not so Chili-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsets Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 You'd be surprised.Not the same market, I know, but when I lived in Ann Arbor a local chain (Bill Knapp's) went under. They had two locations, each in a stand-alone Chili's-sized building at the edge of a strip mall. One was off the main highway on the east side of town, and one on the west. The west side location became Zingerman's Roadhouse, a restaurant spun off of a locally popular deli. They have the most awesome retro red neon sign out front. They charge $14 for a mac and cheese plate, and people actually pay it. (Thus is the hold the Magic of Zingerman's has over the Ann Arbor populace). The east side location was renovated and re-opened as a La Shish, which is a pretty decent middle eastern chain that got its start in Detroit. I think it's pretty easy for local chains or indepedents to re-purpose restaurants, since the kitchen is there already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwrm4 Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Based on my observations, a large majority of those who dwell in the newish apartments that litter Studewood (and soon Sawyer Heights) are single or newly married twenty-somethings that grew up in Kingwood or Sugarland, and moved to "downtown" after A&M because that's what everyone does for a few years. As soon as they hit 28 or so, they'll be married, expecting, and happily moving back to the 'burbs, where a night out means baby-rack ribs at 6 pm. These people will be looking forward to the opening of Chili's @ Sawyer Heights. Reminds them of home. And makes them realize they want to move back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Wow, Chili's thats awesome. I mean I know I look at all the restaurants inside the loop, with variety and are locally operated and a unique experience, and just wish a Chili's would come in. Nothing like pretending I was in the woodlands when there is something much, much better just down the street.....I'll be curious to hear which best buy rumor is true - half the people think its going by Gulfgate and half think its going in the Sawyer Heights area.I didn't think many inner loop residents ate at chili's??? there are too many good restaurants inside the loop.I spoke with the lady from Wulfe and co earlier this week. she told me best buy is opening may 2007 at gulfgate. that is the only confirmed tenant on the new section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Based on my observations, a large majority of those who dwell in the newish apartments that litter Studewood (and soon Sawyer Heights) are single or newly married twenty-somethings that grew up in Kingwood or Sugarland, and moved to "downtown" after A&M because that's what everyone does for a few years. As soon as they hit 28 or so, they'll be married, expecting, and happily moving back to the 'burbs, where a night out means baby-rack ribs at 6 pm. Except for wendyps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Except for wendyps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Confirmed...Chick Fil AAmerican MattressPayless ShoesBanks we already know aboutIn the works...ChilisStarbucksAnother snooze center, just like Gulfgate. I too am surprised the retail offerings are so brown-paper-bag but I guess we shouldn't forget that the customer base is pulled from a large area. I would also have to guess that, in a new center, the tried and true are the first to step up to the plate and lease. There are plenty of non-generic eateries and shopping fair close so perhaps the bland was what was missing.As for mattresses, they're like butts; everyone's got one and maybe they make such a killing on each one that they're profitable without high volume. The apartment scene, as cwrm4 mentioned, is definitely a factor too in all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokieone Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) I didn't think many inner loop residents ate at chili's??? there are too many good restaurants inside the loop.My previous post was entirely sarcastic - i don't care where Chili's builds, I'm not going there. Same goes for Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and the rest of the Darden's gang Edited November 10, 2006 by hokieone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmainguy Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Personally, I will continue to supp from time to time at the nearby Caf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Wasn't there a Chili's in the River Oaks shopping center, near the laugh stop? It went away and was replaced with Cafe Jadeite (sp?) or something like that. I wonder what made them decide to retry the inner-loop market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Wasn't there a Chili's in the River Oaks shopping center, near the laugh stop? It went away and was replaced with Cafe Jadeite (sp?) or something like that. I wonder what made them decide to retry the inner-loop market.It's like applebee's left houston 10 yrs ago because of poor business and now they are returning. a friend from florida loved it and took me. well, it's still as bad as it was 10 yrs ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREASER Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Yes, but lately there seem to be more so I hardly get noticed. I suppose the next step will be to start announcing the store specials in English every now and then.I know what you mean about the Gulfgate HEB...instead of making it nice, they turned it into a Fiesta...if people want Fiesta, they will go there..they should be trying to improve the neighborhood, but I do love the 80`s dance music they play there. You must be the other cracker I saw...hahah...and are the demographics of the neighborhood changing or is it just me...kinda noticed it at the store last 6 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I know what you mean about the Gulfgate HEB...instead of making it nice, they turned it into a Fiesta...if people want Fiesta, they will go there..they should be trying to improve the neighborhood, but I do love the 80`s dance music they play there. You must be the other cracker I saw...hahah...and are the demographics of the neighborhood changing or is it just me...kinda noticed it at the store last 6 monthsI think every HEB i've seen is basically the same utilitarian grocery store. I find Fiesta a little more "rugged". IMO, I think HEB has improved the neighborhood. One thing that just amazes me about the store is how much of certain merchadise they go through daily, particularly bread and milk. in the last 2 months, they've completely scoured their merchandise to eliminate slow selling items such as knorr vegetable soup mix. as for demographics, while they are not the majority, there are plenty of caucasians there. I saw my 2nd grade teacher a few weeks ago shopping there. I will say that the marshall's/ross stores there draw the caucasian sect from midtown/montrose since you can find better deals there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyps Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) Except for wendyps. ahem... Based on my observations, a large majority of those who dwell in the newish apartments -86 year old HOUSE that litter Studewood (and soon Sawyer Heights) are single or newly married - nope twenty-somethings - is wish that grew up in Kingwood - never even BEEN to Kingwood or Sugarland, and moved to "downtown" after A&M - GIG 'EM because that's what everyone does for a few years. As soon as they hit 28 - too late or so, they'll be married, expecting, and happily moving back to the 'burbs, where a night out means baby-rack ribs at 6 pm. - fine, crush my pipe dream however, I can be known to go through mattresses at an uncommon speed, so I'll be just thrilled when that store opens... Edited November 10, 2006 by wendyps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Based on my observations, a large majority of those who dwell in the newish apartments that litter Studewood (and soon Sawyer Heights) are single or newly married twenty-somethings that grew up in Kingwood or Sugarland, and moved to "downtown" after A&M because that's what everyone does for a few years. As soon as they hit 28 or so, they'll be married, expecting, and happily moving back to the 'burbs, where a night out means baby-rack ribs at 6 pm. These people will be looking forward to the opening of Chili's @ Sawyer Heights. Reminds them of home. And makes them realize they want to move back.Grew up in Katy, got married, had a kid, moved to the Heights. I think the thing that would keeps young'ins out of the city is the cost. Getting a small parcel of land for 350K+ is not for most starters. Thank god we were able to stay... I'll never return to burbtown.Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heightsfan Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Does anyone think that Wal Mart investors may try to capitalize in the inner loop as well since Target already made an investment inside the loop ? Just curious . . not a big fan of Wal Mart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Does anyone think that Wal Mart investors may try to capitalize in the inner loop as well since Target already made an investment inside the loop ? Just curious . . not a big fan of Wal Mart.For the sake of poor people, I'd certainly hope so. But if they did, it'd probably be Near Northside, Fifth Ward, East End, or Third Ward. I'd think that Near Northside or East End would be the prime candidates, as there are a number of large suitable tracts with good access in each neighborhood.Don't worry; the Heights will be spared. They probably don't want your business anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Does anyone think that Wal Mart investors may try to capitalize in the inner loop as well since Target already made an investment inside the loop ? Just curious . . not a big fan of Wal Mart.no.....niche wanna bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heightsfan Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Well there is a Wal Mart near the Eastside already which is on 45 South exit Monroe .The reason I am not a big fan if Wal Mart near by to the Heights is maybe just maybe do you think this would effect the local stores C & D , ACE , Buchanons, 19th street , local pet and feed stores etc . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 (edited) Well there is a Wal Mart near the Eastside already which is on 45 South exit Monroe .The reason I am not a big fan if Wal Mart near by to the Heights is maybe just maybe do you think this would effect the local stores C & D , ACE , Buchanons, 19th street , local pet and feed stores etc . . .there's no walmart at monroe. the nearest is the almeda location which opened less than a yr ago. Edited November 12, 2006 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Well there is a Wal Mart near the Eastside already which is on 45 South exit Monroe .The reason I am not a big fan if Wal Mart near by to the Heights is maybe just maybe do you think this would effect the local stores C & D , ACE , Buchanons, 19th street , local pet and feed stores etc . . .No, No, No, No, and No.If Lowes, Home Depot, Target, and Houton Garden Center didn't kill 'em, WalMart won't do it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 For the sake of poor people, I'd certainly hope so. But if they did, it'd probably be Near Northside, Fifth Ward, East End, or Third Ward. I'd think that Near Northside or East End would be the prime candidates, as there are a number of large suitable tracts with good access in each neighborhood.Don't worry; the Heights will be spared. They probably don't want your business anyway.Actually, if Wally World does decide to try and move in to this part of town, it will have nothing to do with saving money for poor people. I can't find the article to link to, but there have bee several news stories lately about Wal-mart's new concept, which will be "higher end" to attract the Target loving, yuppie and dink crowd. I feel confident that's what they would try to bring inside the loop. Either way, I hope they keep their stores far, far away from me. I hate Wal-mart.No, No, No, No, and No.If Lowes, Home Depot, Target, and Houton Garden Center didn't kill 'em, WalMart won't do it either.I agree. Those stores stay around b/c people in the neighborhood want them here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 For the sake of poor people, I'd certainly hope so. But if they did, it'd probably be Near Northside, Fifth Ward, East End, or Third Ward. I'd think that Near Northside or East End would be the prime candidates, as there are a number of large suitable tracts with good access in each neighborhood.Don't worry; the Heights will be spared. They probably don't want your business anyway.a rumor today i heard from my aunt who does the walking thing at northline. she said the mgmt is trying to get a Walmart there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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