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Elan Heights: Multifamily At 825 Usener St.


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My house is across the street form this property. I have lived there for 14 years, and while I have never liked the look of these apartments, I'm not fond of a building that tall going up at that location.

Those apartments were an area of concern when we were considering our purchase, but for what it's worth, I can't complain of any drama ever coming from over there. They just seemed to be working class folks for the most part.

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I've lived in the neighborhood for a eon, too, and never was aware of any particular living down to negative stereotypes going on there.

 

I'm not particularly fond of having another extra couple hundred cars joining what is already getting to be a clustered flock at the Katy/Watson light.

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I've lived in the neighborhood for a eon, too, and never was aware of any particular living down to negative stereotypes going on there.

 

I'm not particularly fond of having another extra couple hundred cars joining what is already getting to be a clustered flock at the Katy/Watson light.

 

I doubt the net result will be an extra couple hundred cars.   In any event, Welcome to the increasingly densifying Houston.  ;-)

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Um, what major thoroughfare would that be? Don't get me wrong, I think this project is fantastic and those old apartments needed to go. But if people seriously think there won't be any opposition to this project, people don't know the Woodland Heights.

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Um, what major thoroughfare would that be? Don't get me wrong, I think this project is fantastic and those old apartments needed to go. But if people seriously think there won't be any opposition to this project, people don't know the Woodland Heights.

Taylor / sawyer street.

I'm sure there will be opposition, but in this city of no zoning, it doesn't matter much. It's all about the market, and obviously, the market that matters to the developers is the one of people that currently live elsewhere.

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Taylor / sawyer street.

I'm sure there will be opposition, but in this city of no zoning, it doesn't matter much. It's all about the market, and obviously, the market that matters to the developers is the one of people that currently live elsewhere.

 

thoroughfare: A main road or public highway. A heavily traveled passage, such as a waterway, strait, or channel.

 

Taylor and Watson are certainly not thoroughfares. Studemont/Studewood certainly are since they are built for major traffic but Watson is a small neighborhood street that Taylor goes into. Taylor is only a four lane road for a small portion there and turns back into a small two lane road in the warehouse area.

 

Now there is talk of expanding Taylor street but Taylor is nothing like Studemont/Studewood, Yale or any of the other real thoroughfares.

 

 

Neither is White Oak nor Usener St.... the two roads this thing will actually be built on will not be able to handle this development. This development is not connected to Taylor in any shape or form... Taylor is on an elevated, disconnected portion that this project won't be apart of. White Oak is in absolute disrepair here so if they do get the variance, I certainly hope the city makes it a condition that they repair this road, just how the city got Walmart to repair Yale.

 

Check out the map... this development will be built on two small roads:

 

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The main point I'm getting at is that the city should make it clear that both Userner and White Oak should be improved to make this development feasible for these falling-apart small streets.

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I'm sure the neighbors will miss this.

 

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This picture alone should win a Swampy award. IDK what category, but it needs one.......

 

'Best farewell of a structure to be torn down'

Winner: Skylane Central Apts. / Elan Heights 

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I doubt the net result will be an extra couple hundred cars.   In any event, Welcome to the increasingly densifying Houston.  ;-)

 

It's going from around 75 units to around 250, so yeah, I stand by my number.  

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I stand corrected.  Actually, the number might even be higher.  They are now saying 325 units.  Some street improvements probably are in order. 

 

I could not agree with you more.  As it already is, the westbound ramp to Taylor/Sawyer/Watson backs up almost onto the freeway at times.

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well....that escalated quickly xD Man they really beefed up this building since the last renderings. Annoyed at the visible parking levels but at least they are underneath. It is a bit busy in terms of composition. I bet it will look nice from the Bayou though.

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Looks great. I don't live in the area, so can't comment on the roads, but I would note that if you couldn't build large developments on rough roads, then nothing would ever be built in this city.

 

haha! I totally agree. I was basically trying to say that these streets are small neighborhood roads, though you could arguably say White Oak can handle a little more traffic.

Either way, in their current state, it's going to be like driving off-road if the city doesn't at least make Greystar repair part of White Oak here.

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Who rides a bike on the pedestrian shoulder, where your center of gravity is higher than the guard rail whilst cars zoom by? Kudos the Audi driver for changing lanes. 

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Who rides a bike on the pedestrian shoulder, where your center of gravity is higher than the guard rail whilst cars zoom by? Kudos the Audi driver for changing lanes. 

 

Me! Hahaha!

 

Do it on the Taylor bridge all the time. Unless you are with a big group of bicyclists, it's strangely the only safe way, in my opinion, to go along the bridge instead of being in the traffics way. The sidewalk is not that narrow. With all these white ghost bikes around town from bicyclists killed from being run-over, it definitely feels like a safer alternative to be on the sidewalk. Most people use the bridge's sidewalk to go from the Woodland Heights to the bike trail along Sawyer Heights St/Spring St.

 

The scary one which I refuse to ever do again is the Studewood bridge over White Oak Bayou. I didn't realize how narrow the bridge's sidewalk became and the guard rail was below my knees. 

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The scary one which I refuse to ever do again is the Studewood bridge over White Oak Bayou. I didn't realize how narrow the bridge's sidewalk became and the guard rail was below my knees. 

 

Dude, I don't know if that was brave, crazy, or just not quite grokking what lay ahead.  For the benefit of those unfamiliar with that area, the Studewood bridge is also on a curve and a hill - and don't forget, Studewood has lots more traffic than Watson.

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I don't even feel comfortable walking over the bridge on Studewood. It's too narrow. You have to walk in a single file line if you're with others. I am not even convinced it's meant to be walked on but I guess it's a Houston thing.

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I still don't get how they plan to cram this thing onto that property - even more so if they want to get closer to White Oak and Watson.  According to the FEMA flood maps, that part of this property is not just in the flood plain, but the flood way - which I thought could not be obstructed.  Skylane's garage has been flooded many times - and not just in the really big rain events that shut down large parts of the city.

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Dude, I don't know if that was brave, crazy, or just not quite grokking what lay ahead.  For the benefit of those unfamiliar with that area, the Studewood bridge is also on a curve and a hill - and don't forget, Studewood has lots more traffic than Watson.

 

Probably stupidity...? My friends needed to get somewhere quickly after our bike ride and their car was parked on Stude. So the quickest way to get from the bike trail to Stude was to take the bridge from where we were at the time. I wasn't until we were actually on the bridge that we realized we made a huge mistake. Absolutely terrifying the entire way.. I'm surprised no one's fallen off that bridge yet.

 

Anyway, this is how that development will sit on this lot:

 

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Based upon these schematics, if Elan Heights won't even have access to White Oak, then there probably won't be repairs to it then.  :unsure:

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Kinda sorta.  Less so north of White Oak, quickly becoming more densely shaded - and to become only more so if one crams a much taller building closer to it.

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Isn't it green under those bridges right now?

 

The whole area under the bridge is pretty overgrown when not maintained. Towards the end of the bridge is the only section that prob does not have much grass. I don't know what the other poster is taking about.

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Who rides a bike on the pedestrian shoulder, where your center of gravity is higher than the guard rail whilst cars zoom by? Kudos the Audi driver for changing lanes.

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http://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Bicyclist-falls-from-bridge-above-bayou-in-Heights-3863048.php

A bicyclist plunged more than 25 feet from a bridge over White Oak Bayou in the Heights area late Thursday morning.

The mishap occurred about 11:30 a.m. on Studewood just north of Interstate 10 near Stude Park, according to the Houston Fire Department.

Officials said the man, whose name has not been released, was rushed to a nearby hospital. He had a broken arm and other injuries, said HFD Capt. Don Martin.

Martin said firefighters hauled the man up from the edge of the bayou after he fell at least about 25 feet. He ended up on concrete near the bayou's center channel, which was flowing with water from recent rainfall in the area. His bicycle was near him.

Martin said someone who heard the man screaming called 911.

It is unclear, Martin added, what caused the bicyclist to topple over the railing along the sidewalk on the bridge. It appeared the man had been on the east side of the bridge

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Well the Taylor bridge, the one in the rendering, is fine.

 

The Studewood bridge, the one we were mentioning and the one in the article, is downright terrifying. The article states they aren't sure what caused the fall...???

Let me show you what caused the fall:

 

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From Google Streetview.

 

Look at the "sidewalk" and tell me that looks safe. You don't realize just how bad it is until it's too late... or if you need to get to Stude Park from the bike trail, this is one of the quickest ways. 

 

Either way, it's a big NO NO NO for me.

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The whole area under the bridge is pretty overgrown when not maintained. Towards the end of the bridge is the only section that prob does not have much grass. I don't know what the other poster is taking about.

 

Of course not.  I only drive by it daily.

 

It's overgrown around the edges where the light is.  Yes, between White Oak and the bayou is nice; the other side, less so.

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Of course not.  I only drive by it daily.

 

It's overgrown around the edges where the light is.  Yes, between White Oak and the bayou is nice; the other side, less so.

 

I think this is more than sufficient for its intended purposes.

 

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The only area without grass is towards the end of the bridge.

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Probably stupidity...? My friends needed to get somewhere quickly after our bike ride and their car was parked on Stude. So the quickest way to get from the bike trail to Stude was to take the bridge from where we were at the time. I wasn't until we were actually on the bridge that we realized we made a huge mistake. Absolutely terrifying the entire way.. I'm surprised no one's fallen off that bridge yet.

 

Anyway, this is how that development will sit on this lot:

 

 

 

 

 

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Based upon these schematics, if Elan Heights won't even have access to White Oak, then there probably won't be repairs to it then.  :unsure:

 

I wonder who will take their children to play under the bridge, penned between two much larger dog areas, when there is a large park across the street. 

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Well the Taylor bridge, the one in the rendering, is fine.

The Studewood bridge, the one we were mentioning and the one in the article, is downright terrifying. The article states they aren't sure what caused the fall...???

Let me show you what caused the fall:

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From Google Streetview.

Look at the "sidewalk" and tell me that looks safe. You don't realize just how bad it is until it's too late... or if you need to get to Stude Park from the bike trail, this is one of the quickest ways.

Either way, it's a big NO NO NO for me.

Bikes are not supposed to go on the sidewalks anyway; they are supposed to share the road with the cars.

One of the two evils will end up killing you.

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Greystar doesn't know much about multi-family construction.......yes they put up a great resume, but just look at The Calais and their work speaks for itself.......they need to rethink many of their sites they bought during the credit crunch......these projects were slated to be built by companies that spent the money to build it correctly, like not chopping off the retail floors of buildings like so many vulture builders do to plans that already had a life before the current fly by night builder stepped in.......

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That means the demo was today right? Well this is close to my house... drove by.... Nothing at all. I mean I saw some dirt moved around but no demo at all. We'll see what happens maybe over the weekend and definitely Monday.

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Bikes are not supposed to go on the sidewalks anyway; they are supposed to share the road with the cars.

One of the two evils will end up killing you.

They're supposed to go on the road but with the amount of ghost bikes around town from people killed being run over by drivers, I'd rather stick to either a bike trail or a sidewalk. Houston's bike lanes are just ditches for the main lanes... full of mud and falling apart.  :angry2: The only bike lane in the entire city that I feel safe is the one on Heights Blvd.

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