Sola Salon At 5836 N. Main St.

[wilcal]

Permit issued for demo and commercial parking lot

 

[thedistrict84]

On 8/30/2021 at 11:33 AM, wilcal said:

Permit issued for demo and commercial parking lot

Alright HAIFers, get your pitchforks!

[BigRed]

19 hours ago, thedistrict84 said:

Alright HAIFers, get your pitchforks!

LOL I mean I feel ya but also this is a prime example of a home that probably could stand to be leveled... its not like anyone (IMO anyways) is going to restore this bungalow for a home - its off Cavalcade and Main (wooof) and next to commercial space. So its a bummer that its more parking but also not a huge loss.

[thedistrict84]

42 minutes ago, BigRed said:

LOL I mean I feel ya but also this is a prime example of a home that probably could stand to be leveled... its not like anyone (IMO anyways) is going to restore this bungalow for a home - its off Cavalcade and Main (wooof) and next to commercial space. So its a bummer that its more parking but also not a huge loss.

The homes in that neighborhood are slowly being renovated, and there is no reason this one couldn’t be as well. It definitely needed some work but I’m sure the basic structure was still good.

By example, my friend and her husband live a block away, and bought in maybe six or seven years ago. They’ve done a great job with renovating their original bungalow. 

Also worth considering, the entry to this lot is on a residential side street, bringing additional thru traffic and affecting use of the sidewalk by pedestrians.

[s3mh]

House was very well maintained cared for and would have been an easy flip.  Location is not the best, but people are beating each other with sticks to buy in the Heights and someone would have been happy to live there.  Losing a nice bungalow to nail salon parking is so 2000.  

[Ross]

1 hour ago, s3mh said:

House was very well maintained cared for and would have been an easy flip.  Location is not the best, but people are beating each other with sticks to buy in the Heights and someone would have been happy to live there.  Losing a nice bungalow to nail salon parking is so 2000.  

Property has been owned by the owners of the building next door(K&K Food Market) since the late 1960's. It was never going to be flipped for residential. It's also technically not the Heights, but Stude's First Addition. Interestingly, the people who sold the property to K&K Food Market still own most of that block along Cavalcade, and a lot on Robbie. Hmm, after further research, K&K Food Market is an entity owned by the Kowis family that transferred the property to K&K. Which reinforces the fact that it was never going to be residential.

Edited September 1, 2021 by Ross

[s3mh]

14 hours ago, Ross said:

Property has been owned by the owners of the building next door(K&K Food Market) since the late 1960's. It was never going to be flipped for residential. It's also technically not the Heights, but Stude's First Addition. Interestingly, the people who sold the property to K&K Food Market still own most of that block along Cavalcade, and a lot on Robbie. Hmm, after further research, K&K Food Market is an entity owned by the Kowis family that transferred the property to K&K. Which reinforces the fact that it was never going to be residential.

So, you are saying that a house that was well maintained for decades by someone who lived in it as their residence was never intended to be residential because whether a house is suitable to be flipped or not depends on the intent of the property owner and not the condition of the house.  That is a new level of developerspeak that is even a stretch for HAIF.  

And calling out properties as not being "technically" in the Heights is also so 2000.

[Ross]

1 hour ago, s3mh said:

So, you are saying that a house that was well maintained for decades by someone who lived in it as their residence was never intended to be residential because whether a house is suitable to be flipped or not depends on the intent of the property owner and not the condition of the house.  That is a new level of developerspeak that is even a stretch for HAIF.  

And calling out properties as not being "technically" in the Heights is also so 2000.

Did you not read the part where that property has been owned by the Kowis family or their business since the 1960's possibly earlier(it was transferred to their business entity in the late 60's). The property hasn't been sold, but is being demolished by the entity that has owned it for over 50 years. They obviously have a different use in mind, and nothing you say or do is going to change that. There was zero chance that it would be sold to a residential buyer.

And, it's not the Heights, period.

[Angostura]

I'm curious if this is just something Sola decided to do, or whether they need to do it to be in compliance with the city's parking minimums.

Ch 26 requires 3 spaces for every chair plus a space for every employee. This can get pretty onerous on a per-sf basis.

[s3mh]

2 hours ago, Ross said:

Did you not read the part where that property has been owned by the Kowis family or their business since the 1960's possibly earlier(it was transferred to their business entity in the late 60's). The property hasn't been sold, but is being demolished by the entity that has owned it for over 50 years. They obviously have a different use in mind, and nothing you say or do is going to change that. There was zero chance that it would be sold to a residential buyer.

And, it's not the Heights, period.

The discussion was about whether the property had any potential to be flipped not whether the owners had any intention to flip it.  I am sure you feel special that you know something about the owners and we are all eternally in your debt for such magnificent insight.  But your comments are a non sequitur.  

Niche and Red Scare are gone.  Fighting about whether something is actually in the Heights or not because it is a block or two outside the original plat for the Heights is so over even for HAIF.

[Ross]

5 hours ago, s3mh said:

The discussion was about whether the property had any potential to be flipped not whether the owners had any intention to flip it.  I am sure you feel special that you know something about the owners and we are all eternally in your debt for such magnificent insight.  But your comments are a non sequitur.  

Niche and Red Scare are gone.  Fighting about whether something is actually in the Heights or not because it is a block or two outside the original plat for the Heights is so over even for HAIF.

There was no potential for that house to be flipped for non-demolition residential. 1,000 sq ft 2/1? Not going to survive, as no one wants to live in a house that small these days. There was also no potential for a flip because the owners didn't want to flip it to residential when they can presumably make a lot more money with less liability by turning it into a parking lot. 

 

[s3mh]

14 hours ago, Ross said:

There was no potential for that house to be flipped for non-demolition residential. 1,000 sq ft 2/1? Not going to survive, as no one wants to live in a house that small these days. There was also no potential for a flip because the owners didn't want to flip it to residential when they can presumably make a lot more money with less liability by turning it into a parking lot. 

 

Yeah.  You are correct.  No one wants to live in a 1,000 sq ft 2/1.  Only option is to knock it down.  Nothing else can be done.  I have heard about scientists at MIT experimenting with next generation technology where they are able to use state of the art materials like wood, nails and Hardie plank siding to enlarge an existing house.  But this is cutting edge stuff that won't be ready for commercial use for another 10-20 years.