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4 minutes ago, wilcal said:

Those are old Wendy's windows though, right? I must have forgotten it was a JitB in the mean time

Looks like Wendy's style windows. It was definitely a JitB before it closed.

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The land was originally a Stuart's Drive-In, and later a Price's. Jack in the Box opened here around late 1974 building this new structure. The greenhouse windows were likely an addition as most other JITBs built it Houston during this time were later expanded. The building only hosted Jack in the Box, and the temporary COVID testing center in the Streetview screenshot. The demolition is related to the construction on Shepherd and has been in the works for a few years now.

 

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15 hours ago, SpaceGhost said:

...The demolition is related to the construction on Shepherd and has been in the works for a few years now.

 

Which construction are you referring to here? Shepherd Dr reconstruction? Will this corner be modified in a way that necessitated the demo? Btw I'm happy to see it go, just more curious on how exactly it's related to Shepherd Dr construction.

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On 8/24/2021 at 9:38 PM, HNathoo said:

Based on the ownership entity, I believe it will be a gas station, but I remember seeing in a sale package that a Chick-Fil-A was once slated for this site.

I don't want to think about how a Chick-fil-A and the lines they create would work there. That restaurant across the street already backs up Shepherd some nights.

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On 8/24/2021 at 1:42 PM, Visitor said:

Which construction are you referring to here? Shepherd Dr reconstruction? Will this corner be modified in a way that necessitated the demo? Btw I'm happy to see it go, just more curious on how exactly it's related to Shepherd Dr construction.

https://abc13.com/houston-traffic-shepherd-construction-montrose-road-us-59-work/10402823/

It's adding new storm drains, and rebuilding the sidewalks/lighting and making it more pedestrian friendly as well. No street widening, other than the turn lane here.

14 hours ago, skooljunkie said:

Pretty sure the city is buying a sliver of land here to add a left turn lane as they rebuild the road. I think I saw that a while back. 

https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2020/04/15/city-council-oks-purchase-of-shepherd-drive-parcel-for-road-project/

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10 minutes ago, SpaceGhost said:

Seems like this link isn't related to this portion of Shepherd Dr, but the other link addresses the area in question. 

I haven't been down this portion of Shepherd/Durham in 3 months, but construction definitely didn't start last spring...

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9 hours ago, SpaceGhost said:

https://abc13.com/houston-traffic-shepherd-construction-montrose-road-us-59-work/10402823/

It's adding new storm drains, and rebuilding the sidewalks/lighting and making it more pedestrian friendly as well. No street widening, other than the turn lane here.

https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2020/04/15/city-council-oks-purchase-of-shepherd-drive-parcel-for-road-project/

Yeah this is dead on. I have a feeling that old JIB is going be demo'd and lane added. Great work on putting the pieces together!

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23 hours ago, Visitor said:

Seems like this link isn't related to this portion of Shepherd Dr, but the other link addresses the area in question. 

I haven't been down this portion of Shepherd/Durham in 3 months, but construction definitely didn't start last spring...

You're correct, the perils of reading an article and going back to "find it" via Google exist.

Here's the one for this portion of Shepherd. https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2021/01/15/txdot-opens-public-comment-period-on-shepherd-durham-project/

 

Basically the same plan, although a detail that I didn't notice earlier, it looks like there are plans to drop from 4 to 3 lanes in certain areas to add more sidewalk space.

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On 8/29/2021 at 12:57 PM, SpaceGhost said:

You're correct, the perils of reading an article and going back to "find it" via Google exist.

Here's the one for this portion of Shepherd. https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2021/01/15/txdot-opens-public-comment-period-on-shepherd-durham-project/

 

Basically the same plan, although a detail that I didn't notice earlier, it looks like there are plans to drop from 4 to 3 lanes in certain areas to add more sidewalk space.

I love the fact they are thinking about walkability, but this only applies to Shepherd/Durham from 10-610 in the heights.  I can't seem to find anything with any plans for 10-Memorial Dr

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On 8/30/2021 at 11:47 PM, Visitor said:

I love the fact they are thinking about walkability, but this only applies to Shepherd/Durham from 10-610 in the heights.  I can't seem to find anything with any plans for 10-Memorial Dr

I know I spotted the plan for that area at one point. I think it’s part of Memorial TIRZ. It’s on the Rebuild Houston website.

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5 hours ago, TacoDog said:

You haven't noticed Shepherd down to two lanes?

Barriers? Those are for plebs. When I lived in Doha, driving to work one day there was a disturbance ahead where some South Asian workers were setting up barriers to block one lane on the right. A Qatari in a Land Cruiser took exception to the barriers, jumped out of his car, berated the workers, then started throwing the barriers into the adjacent construction site, then berated the workers some more. The workers waited for him to settle down and drive off, shrugged, laughed, and put some other barriers up. 

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I can def say a physical barrier is very important for families and kids. For a commuter like myself I ride with traffic a lot but I also know that’s not practical for everyone. So making these lanes as safe as possible for ALL riders is crucial, BUT I also believe that giving more of the right of way back to pedestrians is even more important. This area is in dire need of good walkability. And as Shepherd and Durham get fully rebuilt, this is going to create a massive, walkable link between Washington Ave and Westheimer. Most of Shepherd on the southern side of Washington Ave is fully rebuilt or under construction, so this is a huge win for making Houston a truly walkable city. In my opinion, if we can get the Richmond BRT built asap and finally rebuild lower and upper Westheimer, our Walk Score would skyrocket. 

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28 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

Clearly, a physical barrier would be safer.  I wonder why they did not include something; at least the concrete dots...  

My guess would be that there are a lot of driveways and businesses would complain about access to them. Dots would help a little.

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here's the answer they gave about why the bike lanes are not protected 

 

HPW shares your interest in making bikeways as safe and comfortable as possible. As projects move from planning through design and ultimately implementation, design standards frequently evolve, and HPW works hard to incorporate updated design standards whenever possible. Bikeway designs, in particular, have evolved substantially in Houston as national and international best practices are adopted and accepted into local design standards. In this case, this section of Shepherd/Durham was designed and budgeted several years before physically separated bikeways were common practice in Houston. Modifying the design at this point would require substantial changes to the roadway design and construction budgets and therefore cannot be accommodated at this time. Future improvements to the bikeway may be possible with a separate project.

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I'm in the Highly Confident group but if Houston wants more cyclist they need to accommodate the other 93%. I also know which battles to pick when traveling on busy roads vs. a much less travelled road. For instance late afternoon on a weekend, I'll pick Center St. vs Washington Ave., Stanford St. vs. Montrose Blvd.

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