wilcal Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I kind of hate to post Washington stuff in the Heights forum, but not really a better place to do so. Demo permit issued on8/17 for the old Wendy's location per this weeks permit report. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 old jack in the box! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Avossos said: old jack in the box! Those are old Wendy's windows though, right? I must have forgotten it was a JitB in the mean time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, wilcal said: Those are old Wendy's windows though, right? I must have forgotten it was a JitB in the mean time Looks like Wendy's style windows. It was definitely a JitB before it closed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 The land was originally a Stuart's Drive-In, and later a Price's. Jack in the Box opened here around late 1974 building this new structure. The greenhouse windows were likely an addition as most other JITBs built it Houston during this time were later expanded. The building only hosted Jack in the Box, and the temporary COVID testing center in the Streetview screenshot. The demolition is related to the construction on Shepherd and has been in the works for a few years now. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitor Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 15 hours ago, SpaceGhost said: ...The demolition is related to the construction on Shepherd and has been in the works for a few years now. Which construction are you referring to here? Shepherd Dr reconstruction? Will this corner be modified in a way that necessitated the demo? Btw I'm happy to see it go, just more curious on how exactly it's related to Shepherd Dr construction. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNathoo Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Based on the ownership entity, I believe it will be a gas station, but I remember seeing in a sale package that a Chick-Fil-A was once slated for this site. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitor Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 9:38 PM, HNathoo said: Based on the ownership entity, I believe it will be a gas station, but I remember seeing in a sale package that a Chick-Fil-A was once slated for this site. I don't want to think about how a Chick-fil-A and the lines they create would work there. That restaurant across the street already backs up Shepherd some nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooljunkie Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Pretty sure the city is buying a sliver of land here to add a left turn lane as they rebuild the road. I think I saw that a while back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 1:42 PM, Visitor said: Which construction are you referring to here? Shepherd Dr reconstruction? Will this corner be modified in a way that necessitated the demo? Btw I'm happy to see it go, just more curious on how exactly it's related to Shepherd Dr construction. https://abc13.com/houston-traffic-shepherd-construction-montrose-road-us-59-work/10402823/ It's adding new storm drains, and rebuilding the sidewalks/lighting and making it more pedestrian friendly as well. No street widening, other than the turn lane here. 14 hours ago, skooljunkie said: Pretty sure the city is buying a sliver of land here to add a left turn lane as they rebuild the road. I think I saw that a while back. https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2020/04/15/city-council-oks-purchase-of-shepherd-drive-parcel-for-road-project/ 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitor Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, SpaceGhost said: https://abc13.com/houston-traffic-shepherd-construction-montrose-road-us-59-work/10402823/ Seems like this link isn't related to this portion of Shepherd Dr, but the other link addresses the area in question. I haven't been down this portion of Shepherd/Durham in 3 months, but construction definitely didn't start last spring... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 hours ago, SpaceGhost said: https://abc13.com/houston-traffic-shepherd-construction-montrose-road-us-59-work/10402823/ It's adding new storm drains, and rebuilding the sidewalks/lighting and making it more pedestrian friendly as well. No street widening, other than the turn lane here. https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2020/04/15/city-council-oks-purchase-of-shepherd-drive-parcel-for-road-project/ Yeah this is dead on. I have a feeling that old JIB is going be demo'd and lane added. Great work on putting the pieces together! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 23 hours ago, Visitor said: Seems like this link isn't related to this portion of Shepherd Dr, but the other link addresses the area in question. I haven't been down this portion of Shepherd/Durham in 3 months, but construction definitely didn't start last spring... You're correct, the perils of reading an article and going back to "find it" via Google exist. Here's the one for this portion of Shepherd. https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2021/01/15/txdot-opens-public-comment-period-on-shepherd-durham-project/ Basically the same plan, although a detail that I didn't notice earlier, it looks like there are plans to drop from 4 to 3 lanes in certain areas to add more sidewalk space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Welling Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Lol did they really fence in METRO's trash can? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooljunkie Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Justin Welling said: Lol did they really fence in METRO's trash can? 😂 It will finally be emptied. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitor Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 12:57 PM, SpaceGhost said: You're correct, the perils of reading an article and going back to "find it" via Google exist. Here's the one for this portion of Shepherd. https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2021/01/15/txdot-opens-public-comment-period-on-shepherd-durham-project/ Basically the same plan, although a detail that I didn't notice earlier, it looks like there are plans to drop from 4 to 3 lanes in certain areas to add more sidewalk space. I love the fact they are thinking about walkability, but this only applies to Shepherd/Durham from 10-610 in the heights. I can't seem to find anything with any plans for 10-Memorial Dr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) On 8/30/2021 at 11:47 PM, Visitor said: I love the fact they are thinking about walkability, but this only applies to Shepherd/Durham from 10-610 in the heights. I can't seem to find anything with any plans for 10-Memorial Dr I know I spotted the plan for that area at one point. I think it’s part of Memorial TIRZ. It’s on the Rebuild Houston website. Edited September 3, 2021 by j_cuevas713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 https://www.engagehouston.org/shepherdanddurham 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 They have to stop using "early winter" as a description for when something will be finished. Once again, from context, it's clear this means early spring of 2023. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/8/2021 at 8:23 PM, hindesky said: https://www.engagehouston.org/shepherdanddurham Welp looks like this might be delayed a bit. I haven’t noticed anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacoDog Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 4:18 PM, j_cuevas713 said: Welp looks like this might be delayed a bit. I haven’t noticed anything You haven't noticed Shepherd down to two lanes? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 5 hours ago, TacoDog said: You haven't noticed Shepherd down to two lanes? Barriers? Those are for plebs. When I lived in Doha, driving to work one day there was a disturbance ahead where some South Asian workers were setting up barriers to block one lane on the right. A Qatari in a Land Cruiser took exception to the barriers, jumped out of his car, berated the workers, then started throwing the barriers into the adjacent construction site, then berated the workers some more. The workers waited for him to settle down and drive off, shrugged, laughed, and put some other barriers up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) On 9/16/2021 at 7:25 AM, TacoDog said: You haven't noticed Shepherd down to two lanes? Are you being sarcastic? lol Edited September 17, 2021 by j_cuevas713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Looks like this is actually happening on schedule from what I could tell on my drive yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacoDog Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/17/2021 at 12:01 PM, j_cuevas713 said: Are you being sarcastic? lol Were you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, TacoDog said: Were you? No lol I know they were doing some work on that section of Shepherd/Durham but I didn't know for what. I'm just happy to see this start on time. This area desperately needs some improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonizepic Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 those sketches are a bit misleading, there wont be any kind of physical barrier to the bike lane, just the painted 3 foot buffer zone. Kind of a bad idea IMO considering how fast traffic moves on this road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 6 hours ago, pokemonizepic said: those sketches are a bit misleading, there wont be any kind of physical barrier to the bike lane, just the painted 3 foot buffer zone. Kind of a bad idea IMO considering how fast traffic moves on this road. Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonizepic Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Houston19514 said: Source? https://www.engagehouston.org/shepherdanddurham check out the q&a section 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 They have definitely started on the Shepherd side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 It's very weird that they wouldn't at least put in armadillos. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 With a three-foot buffer zone, armadillos are probably not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonizepic Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: With a three-foot buffer zone, armadillos are probably not necessary. I dont know, I feel like these drivers are just going to swerve into the lane anytime its convenient for them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 As a cyclist I feel much more comfortable with either the plastic armadillos or the concrete curbs and I ride a lot. More timid riders won't feel comfortable without them. Too many crazy drivers out there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) I can def say a physical barrier is very important for families and kids. For a commuter like myself I ride with traffic a lot but I also know that’s not practical for everyone. So making these lanes as safe as possible for ALL riders is crucial, BUT I also believe that giving more of the right of way back to pedestrians is even more important. This area is in dire need of good walkability. And as Shepherd and Durham get fully rebuilt, this is going to create a massive, walkable link between Washington Ave and Westheimer. Most of Shepherd on the southern side of Washington Ave is fully rebuilt or under construction, so this is a huge win for making Houston a truly walkable city. In my opinion, if we can get the Richmond BRT built asap and finally rebuild lower and upper Westheimer, our Walk Score would skyrocket. Edited September 27, 2021 by j_cuevas713 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Clearly, a physical barrier would be safer. I wonder why they did not include something; at least the concrete dots... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: Clearly, a physical barrier would be safer. I wonder why they did not include something; at least the concrete dots... My guess would be that there are a lot of driveways and businesses would complain about access to them. Dots would help a little. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonizepic Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 here's the answer they gave about why the bike lanes are not protected HPW shares your interest in making bikeways as safe and comfortable as possible. As projects move from planning through design and ultimately implementation, design standards frequently evolve, and HPW works hard to incorporate updated design standards whenever possible. Bikeway designs, in particular, have evolved substantially in Houston as national and international best practices are adopted and accepted into local design standards. In this case, this section of Shepherd/Durham was designed and budgeted several years before physically separated bikeways were common practice in Houston. Modifying the design at this point would require substantial changes to the roadway design and construction budgets and therefore cannot be accommodated at this time. Future improvements to the bikeway may be possible with a separate project. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Interesting. Makes sense, but throwing some armadillos in there shouldn't exactly take much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I like the armadillos for the most part but I'm really big on low level maintenance. I'd rather see a much tougher barrier between cyclists and drivers. A nice concrete median similar to how we treat cars would be nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 City currently doesn't have a way to clean armadillo lanes :( Going to bid something out I think eventually. Prob should have thought of that before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonizepic Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 update from bikehouston on twitter : Update: We've spoken with @HouPublicWorks. They're looking into this, and will have an update on the plan within 30 days. possible W? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Yeah I had a convo with someone from Bike Houston a couple of months ago about maintaining the lanes. They said they're working with the city to figure out how to fund routine repairs and maintenance, like sweeping the lanes on a regular basis, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I'm in the Highly Confident group but if Houston wants more cyclist they need to accommodate the other 93%. I also know which battles to pick when traveling on busy roads vs. a much less travelled road. For instance late afternoon on a weekend, I'll pick Center St. vs Washington Ave., Stanford St. vs. Montrose Blvd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Visitor Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 https://www.click2houston.com/traffic/2021/10/27/here-is-an-update-on-the-progress-of-the-shepherddurham-project/ Shepherd / Durham project The entire project is called the Shepherd/Durham project, which is a major investment project. Work kicked off earlier this summer. When all the work is done, folks will see improvements stretching, all the way north of I-10 into the Heights. Project one: work on Shepherd and Durham, south of I-10, from Dickson to Washington. This work will be completed at different points in time, with the goal of having Shepherd done first then Durham by fall of 2022. Project two: Shepherd/Durham from 610 to I-10 (crews have not broken ground on this section just yet) Done in two phases: Phase one: 610 to 15th street (crews are ready to break ground on the first phase of project two by the end of 2021.) Phase two: 15th to I-10. Improvements Work on Shepherd and Durham will include reducing lanes from four to three to make way for: Better bike lanes--with added buffer zone to protect cyclists from car traffic. Wider sidewalks Better drainage Drivers can expect better timing for traffic signals too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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