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Near Northside’s Outlook


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I moved into Near Northside a few years ago. I could feel the growth and potential, loved the area. A few commercial places popped up soon after I moved in. Things seemed good. But since, the Hardy Yards project is all but failed and 2020 seems to have sapped the momentum the neighborhood had going. 

Other than Elysian Viaduct giving us insanely great access to downtown, the neighborhood feels stagnant. We’re boxed in by 5th Ward’s cancer cluster to the east. And the Heights seems like the find a way to push less desirable projects to our side of i45. What y’alls opinion on the outlook of the neighborhood?

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I think that it'll be interesting to see what happens with the Transit Oriented Development now being in place. 

Basically all of these streets have some form of reduced parking minimums/pedestrian realm stuff/etc. There's a longer brochure out there, too. I think some interesting projects may pop up eventually.

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Yes, Hardy Yards is stuck in a rut, but these things happens. Things aren't dead.

 

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On 7/14/2021 at 5:51 AM, heedmm said:

What y’alls opinion on the outlook of the neighborhood?

Give it time. It seems the pandemic gave most development a kick in the gut. I think this area is poised to be the next Heights or mid-town. I just hope the marketing types don't give it a stupid nickname. 😒

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3 minutes ago, Specwriter said:

Give it time. It seems the pandemic gave most development a kick in the gut. I think this area is poised to be the next Heights or mid-town. I just hope the marketing types don't give it a stupid nickname. 😒

 

NeNo hahaha.

I agree, it will take some time but I think there is a lot of opportunity in Near Northside. I think esp once the stuff in the Warehouse District and East River get going this area will start being between interesting parts of town and be pretty affordable for new developments etc. Plus the Metro means ppl can work in downtown, midtown (the Ion for ex) or even the med center and be an easy commute to home.

I know lots of people who are over at WOMH or at Sideout all the time, and those sort of things are leading indicators of further growth.

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1 hour ago, Mitch 76 said:

What happened with the Hardy yards project? I thought extending the tollway into downtown was a great idea.

Hardy Yards is in full swing, the state has to pay for the tollway expansion. There are 2 new blocks of work force apartments going up right now.

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1 hour ago, hindesky said:

Hardy Yards is in full swing, the state has to pay for the tollway expansion. There are 2 new blocks of work force apartments going up right now.

Apartments, yes. But the commercial/green parts of the space that was proposed are no where to be seen. A giant block of apartments was not the initial proposal. I get that plans change but the the area needs commercial as well. 

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On 7/16/2021 at 8:12 PM, hindesky said:

Hardy Yards is in full swing, the state has to pay for the tollway expansion. There are 2 new blocks of work force apartments going up right now.

The state has nothing to do with the tollway expansion (extension).  FWIW, per the HCTRA/Hardy Toll Road Connector website, construction of the tollway lanes to downtown is scheduled to start in September.  The Quitman overpass was scheduled start construction in April. Does anyone know if that has started?

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"I moved into Near Northside a few years ago. I could feel the growth and potential, loved the area. A few commercial places popped up soon after I moved in. Things seemed good. But since, the Hardy Yards project is all but failed and 2020 seems to have sapped the momentum the neighborhood had going."

seems i read something about hardy yards getting back on track, although our study group deemed most all the "complete" and "liveable" plans on file with the city's planners, developers and assorted interested entities incomplete and unlivable. currently we're working with LISC and greater opportunity (GO) neighborhood northline, a project announced end of 2019 at the 10 year conclusion of GO neighborhood northside. after losing nearly 2 years with the pandemic, shutdown and economic downturn, just as things started to resume we began experiencing big problems with northside's cdc- playing catch up commingling northside/northline and to save a few bucks, trying to import northside plans/initiatives- some which run counter to our own preferences and priorities. seems we solved it through the city's dept of neighborhood, though with the city's once prominent "super" neighborhood program broken and outdated (37 of 88 defunct and about half of the remaining 51 inactive) it's going to get messy again. we launched "proposed super neighborhood #45 northline/northside" this year, just in time to learn the alliance hired kindred/rice to split us up like spring branch into several smaller communities and without our input or approval (because we're defunct). about half the working group wants to fight and remain a huge territory, while our "micro to macro" community building team suggests dividing it by zip code (77076, 77022, 77091) would be fair. anyway, not much can happen until the census data's out and redistricting takes place. no coincidence, northline being the biggest, poorest and last to be gentrified- with 60k residents stakeholders to engage. you'd think GO neighborhood would feature more prominently into the picture but oddly, many businesses and developers seem oblivious to what's going on until construction starts outside their door. doesn't help that metro keeps going back and forth with their rail plans- when we'd settle for benches and covered shelters for our #56 bus. hang in there with northside- things took off quickly and the sloppy cdc is being reformed. as for marketing hype and stupid nicknames, branding is going to be a nightmare.  it's "greater" northside on some maps and northside on others- our map extending down I45 all the way to hidden valley and over to acres homes (shepherd/tidwell) refers to our massive territory as "northline/northside", while large parts of airline business district and greenspoint refer to their neighborhood's as traditional "northside". hopefully your area sticks with "greater" northside:)

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Ok, I know this is kinda rude, but for the sake of legibility and breaking up large blocks of text:

 

Seems I read something about Hardy Yards getting back on track, although our study group deemed most all the "complete" and "liveable" plans on file with the city's planners, developers and assorted interested entities incomplete and unlivable.

Currently we're working with LISC and greater opportunity (GO) neighborhood Northline, a project announced end of 2019 at the 10 year conclusion of GO neighborhood northside. After losing nearly 2 years with the pandemic, shutdown and economic downturn, just as things started to resume we began experiencing big problems with northside's cdc- playing catch up commingling northside/northline - and to save a few bucks, trying to import northside plans/initiatives- some which run counter to our own preferences and priorities.

Seems we solved it through the city's dept of neighborhood, though with the city's once prominent "super" neighborhood program broken and outdated (37 of 88 defunct and about half of the remaining 51 inactive) it's going to get messy again. We launched "proposed super neighborhood #45 northline/northside" this year, just in time to learn the alliance hired kindred/rice to split us up like spring branch into several smaller communities and without our input or approval (because we're defunct).

About half the working group wants to fight and remain a huge territory, while our "micro to macro" community building team suggests dividing it by zip code (77076, 77022, 77091) would be fair. Anyway, not much can happen until the census data's out and redistricting takes place.

No coincidence, northline being the biggest, poorest and last to be gentrified- with 60k residents stakeholders to engage. you'd think GO neighborhood would feature more prominently into the picture but oddly, many businesses and developers seem oblivious to what's going on until construction starts outside their door. Doesn't help that metro keeps going back and forth with their rail plans- when we'd settle for benches and covered shelters for our #56 bus.

Hang in there with northside- things took off quickly and the sloppy cdc is being reformed. As for marketing hype and stupid nicknames, branding is going to be a nightmare.  It's "greater" northside on some maps and northside on others- our map extending down I45 all the way to hidden valley and over to acres homes (shepherd/tidwell) refers to our massive territory as "northline/northside", while large parts of airline business district and greenspoint refer to their neighborhood's as traditional "northside". Hopefully your area sticks with "greater" northside:)

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