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seems like we heard something about this a little while back in another thread.. a mixed use development is supposed to go here i thought? or maybe we were just speculating. i think it might of been discussed in The Kirby Collection thread?

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seems like we heard something about this a little while back in another thread.. a mixed use development is supposed to go here i thought? or maybe we were just speculating. i think it might of been discussed in The Kirby Collection thread?

A brochure for the sale of the property was posted in another thread a few months ago.

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Yep, this 3.7 something acre site has already been under contract for a bit, now. Dean Patrinely - Patrinely Group - has the entire site tied up. For redevelopment. Residential, no surprise. Over 200$/ft.

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Yep, this 3.7 something acre site has already been under contract for a bit, now. Dean Patrinely - Patrinely Group - has the entire site tied up. For redevelopment. Residential, no surprise. Over 200$/ft.

Residential as in a high rise?

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I love that lil pappasitos, and it was converted from an old gas station, at least that's what I was told

Would the university line go past this location, if built?

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Ha. Was never much of a sushi king fan either, swtsig.

At least there are several mixed use projects with retail u/c or planned in the immediate vicinity. Kirby Collection, Levy Park, West Ave Phase III, and maybe the those office building around the corner of 59 & Kirby. Wasn't there also a large project at the SW corner of Shepherd & W.Alabama discussed some time ago?

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Unfortunately the University Line won't be coming down this far.. Culberson is forcing it to turn south off Richmond/out of his district before Shepherd.. Assuming it ever sees the light of day.

So this will likely be more mid-rise apartments/maybe a west ave style development? I was hoping for a mixed use with high-rises. Lol

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Yes we need to add bike lanes and the university line, those two things would help a lot. If there are alternatives and people still insist on driving oh well deal with the consequences.

 

No, we don't. It's far easier to get around by car when those pesky rail lines aren't using up valuable road space.

 

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People who use bike lanes in car oriented urban environments need to be placed in institutions where they are no longer a threat to public safety or to themselves. Driving in Houston without killing anyone is hard enough!

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Eh?  Pretty sure it goes out on Richmond through here before cutting south west of Greenway plaza... or am I lost?

 

well that was the plan after '08 or whenever the Afton Oaks debacle was. but a few months ago Culberson said federal funding wouldnt be allowed for light rail ANYWHERE in his district. which includes parts of both the University Line and the Uptown Line.. Richmond west of Shepherd, and Post Oak. unless they move forward with a BRT system down that same path on Richmond before crossing at Cummins then its looking like METRO will be forced to cross 59 east of Shepherd and run the light rail along their Westpark ROW for most of the way.

 

People who use bike lanes in car oriented urban environments need to be placed in institutions where they are no longer a threat to public safety or to themselves. Driving in Houston without killing anyone is hard enough!

i cant tell if you are being facetious or if you are serious. unfortunately i think you are serious, in which case i cant disagree more. if more people rode bikes instead of cluttering the streets with one person in a giant 2 ton vehicle, then maybe traffic (and pollution) wouldnt be such a madhouse in this city and it wouldnt be so dangerous to navigate on foot or on bike. you are advocating for less people walk/bike and more people drive? ughh.. as for being a threat to public safety.. you have that all backwards. its the vehicles who are a threat to public safety of the bicyclists..

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No, we don't. It's far easier to get around by car when those pesky rail lines aren't using up valuable road space.

There are parallel roads, deal with it

People who use bike lanes in car oriented urban environments need to be placed in institutions where they are no longer a threat to public safety or to themselves. Driving in Houston without killing anyone is hard enough!

That's why we need more bike lanes and trails

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Uncivil discourse will be removed.  Please use the Off-Topic threads to rant or go off.  A simple statement of fact is all that would be necessary to make a point.  Cursing politicians and "going off" is not appropriate here.

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Uncivil discourse will be removed.  Please use the Off-Topic threads to rant or go off.  A simple statement of fact is all that would be necessary to make a point.  Cursing politicians and "going off" is not appropriate here.

 

Thank goodness, as well it should. Earlier, someone pretending to be a moderator "went off" on a rant about a comment regarding development off Richmond/Kirby. They cursed me, called me a fool…just “went off” on several commenters, and was Off-Topic saying nothing about development at Richmond/Kirby. Anyway, good comment, and glad things are on track along Richmond and Kirby. Houston’s definitely on track: full speed ahead…ain’t no stopping us now.

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The strip center is lot of commercial lost...will there be a retail component at all?

 

That's what I'm wondering. You would think with the developments going up across the street that this would be in mind. I remember there being a post about Office Max or which ever store like that is in that strip center (can't seem to remember) was starting to downsize their stores overall so maybe that was a contributing factor to this? I know it was the largest tenant in that strip center.

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That's what I'm wondering. You would think with the developments going up across the street that this would be in mind. I remember there being a post about Office Max or which ever store like that is in that strip center (can't seem to remember) was starting to downsize their stores overall so maybe that was a contributing factor to this? I know it was the largest tenant in that strip center.

I highly doubt that an Office Max would have any sort of contribution to any change in retail space, especially since they're downsizing and since they wouldn't have an political pull. Definitely wrong on this one.

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I highly doubt that an Office Max would have any sort of contribution to any change in retail space, especially since they're downsizing and since they wouldn't have an political pull. Definitely wrong on this one.

I disagree. If your largest tenant decides not to renew the lease in full, that's when you start shopping around for interested buyers. You're not so keen on selling when you have a steady revenue stream. But if all of a sudden you need to market to get new tenants, pay commissions and TI allowances, you might as well sell your property.

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That's what I'm wondering. You would think with the developments going up across the street that this would be in mind.

They may also keep West Ave in mind. Businesses are having a hard time staying open in that location.

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Thanks for agreeing fernz :)

 

West Ave retail is going to have a rough time for a little while until there are more developments of that size in the area.

 

When keeping retail in mind they need to remember that to be successful they don't need luxury retail! Not every place can be the galleria lol.

 

Since Kirby is listed as a major thoroughfare in and out of the city, it would be nice if this was picked up by a really good firm/architect. It's a pretty prominent street corner. Get it right and it will be come a very nice gateway type building for the district.

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I disagree. If your largest tenant decides not to renew the lease in full, that's when you start shopping around for interested buyers. You're not so keen on selling when you have a steady revenue stream. But if all of a sudden you need to market to get new tenants, pay commissions and TI allowances, you might as well sell your property.

I don't disagree, all I'm saying is it would be pretty dumb for the developer/owner to rely on a company like Office Max to as their main source of income. Sure, they're the largest tenant and are paying the most leasing fees, but when it's a risky company like Office Max, you don't know how long they're going to be around. Walk into an Office Max or Office Depot and how many people do you usually see? Maybe 10 on a good day. Walk into a same-sized store like Best Buy and there's at least 5 times as much. If these developers were relying on Office Max to keep their income going then that's a pretty amateur move. There's gotta be some other reason behind this.

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seems like we heard something about this a little while back in another thread.. a mixed use development is supposed to go here i thought? or maybe we were just speculating. i think it might of been discussed in The Kirby Collection thread?

The brochure just outlines the parcel, but the Kirby Collection is not a bad guess. Otherwise, it's going to be six floors of apartments on two floors of parking (isn't everything these days?). 

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It's January 2017 and the center is still standing. A bit of digging reveals that the center opened around 1991 and Office Depot has always been there. The Office Depot's building is older though, it was a Kroger and the rest of the center was built around it.

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