Popular Post Urbannizer Posted May 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 http://texasinnovates.org/texas-innovates-campus/ 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapo2367 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 This thing is wild on a couple of different levels, but I love the vision! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I love it, it's beautiful. Unfortunately, I think this has "to be scaled back down to earth" written all over it. I seriously hope I am wrong though. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hindesky Posted May 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) Hopefully this does get built and the city builds a bridge on Velasco St. over to the East River project. It would be in the wooded area. Edited May 26, 2021 by hindesky 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidCenturyMoldy Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) Oh boy. Right next door to a small lead fabricating company and a large mound of earth encircled by security fencing. Edited May 26, 2021 by MidCenturyMoldy 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post august948 Posted May 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, MidCenturyMoldy said: Oh boy. Right next door to a small lead fabricating company and a large mound of earth encircled by security fencing. Is that a city vehicle doing ground contaminant testing? 3 hours ago, Urbannizer said: http://texasinnovates.org/texas-innovates-campus/ The vision.... The reality... 1 1 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aachor Posted May 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 55 minutes ago, MidCenturyMoldy said: Oh boy. Right next door to a small lead fabricating company and a large mound of earth encircled by security fencing. That's where the treasure is buried. Obviously. 2 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidCenturyMoldy Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, aachor said: That's where the treasure is buried. Obviously. Definitely SOMETHING buried there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Looks amazing! ....but it appears they have no money. Not sure tax credits or TIRZ money is going to get this done. 35 minutes ago, august948 said: The reality... Well, they are interested in micro housing... http://texasinnovates.org/micro-housing/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) That looks amazing. Houston could never get anything this cool. It would get value-engineered into a box covered in fake stucco. I could see something like this being built in a more innovative place like China, though. Edited May 26, 2021 by rechlin 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post august948 Posted May 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, rechlin said: That looks amazing. Houston could never get anything this cool. It would get value-engineered into a box covered in fake stucco. I could see something like this being built in a more innovative place like China, though. Grand projects are always much easier in countries with concentration camps and slave labor. 14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBTX Posted May 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, august948 said: Grand projects are always much easier in countries with concentration camps and slave labor. Can't forgot never ending state subsidies and an artificially inflated "economy." 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 isn't this right next to the low income housing project that's planned? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Website isn't working. Are all the HAIFers crashing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedistrict84 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, samagon said: isn't this right next to the low income housing project that's planned? Yes, the "EaDo 800" development is planned for the end of Middle St., which runs parallel to Velasco. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 anytime I see renderings for a project with solar panels I just assume it will never be built.... and this is a mixed use project with solar panels, thats like double proforma confusion.... 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, tangledwoods said: anytime I see renderings for a project with solar panels I just assume it will never be built.... and this is a mixed use project with solar panels, thats like double proforma confusion.... solar panels, bike storage, hydroponics garden, green wall, it's like buzzword bingo on things that never happen in Houston. I'll be cheering from the sidelines, but I won't be disappointed when we get a combo storage units/mattress store. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Response Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) How do you feel about removed turbines? Edited May 26, 2021 by Response 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 16 hours ago, wilcal said: it appears they have no money. What makes you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 48 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: What makes you say that? Their partner list. I guess they might have the what, $100 million to do something like this, but I'm guessing not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, samagon said: solar panels, bike storage, hydroponics garden, green wall, it's like buzzword bingo on things that never happen in Houston. I'll be cheering from the sidelines, but I won't be disappointed when we get a combo storage units/mattress store. Add a Starbucks and we'll have a trifecta. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, august948 said: Add a Starbucks and we'll have a trifecta. Boomtown or Coral Sword type would be more fitting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, wilcal said: Their partner list. I guess they might have the what, $100 million to do something like this, but I'm guessing not. Not having $100 Million is not the same as having no money. It's unlikely any group (except Rice University) would have the $100 Million in cash to build something like this. Building the campus would probably be financed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 17 hours ago, JBTX said: Can't forgot never ending state subsidies and an artificially inflated "economy." That one kind of cuts both ways... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/25/2021 at 7:33 PM, JBTX said: I love it, it's beautiful. Unfortunately, I think this has "to be scaled back down to earth" written all over it. I seriously hope I am wrong though. I'd love to know who the potential tenants for this are going to be... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) It won the C40 prize for the use and design on that strip. Who knows how serious their partners are but some are definitely wealthy enough to build that project without cost engineering it to a warehouse on a lead ridden mole hill. Say, if the 'partnership' with UT (second largest endowment in the nation at 31.9Bn) is real that alone dwarfs the Rice endowment that's building the Ion. And this is a project whose focus would directly compliment the Ions. Also many large oil companies, like Shell, are under heavy stake holder pressure to divest from Oil, extraction, supply, and refinement capital and move into renewable chain tied ventures. So it's possible they find enough forward thinking institutions to pull it together. But who knows, the website is awfully quite about timelines or finance, just vague 'partnerships' and plenty about their vision etc. Edited May 31, 2021 by Two 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Rode down N. Velasco St. There are 4 companies just south of this location, Lead Products, Dixie Plating, Twenty Five, and CCT. The city of Houston owns 4 plots including the fenced off brownfield. The plot closest to Buffalo Bayou is owned buy a company called Pinto East End. Just west the big plot is owned by Houston Housing Authority. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I think I biked by/through that housing authority lot a couple of weekends ago. Is that the field the trail bi-sects or is that further down? We know a friend with an air quality reader when he goes through there (maybe further down) it's going off a like a Geiger Counter siting on a pile of plutonium. I remember smelling the air in that crossing and you can clearly make out the metal/tinny content, on a bad day it's like swimming in a sea of aersolized nickel and copper. It makes me think there's no way Midway and the city don't already have some sort of legal strategy/plan in mind - b/c as soon as you make it down to the metal recycle facility and see all their piles hanging over into the bayou and piled high on their lot, its no mystery where it's all coming from. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 The only bike trails are along the south side of Buffalo Bayou and when you get close to this site the trail is kind of sketchy with portions missing, I've ridden it twice by myself and I didn't feel safe going there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedistrict84 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 16 hours ago, hindesky said: The only bike trails are along the south side of Buffalo Bayou and when you get close to this site the trail is kind of sketchy with portions missing, I've ridden it twice by myself and I didn't feel safe going there. I've walked these trails on the south side of the Bayou several times, starting at the Silos and heading east up to N York. There are a few sections of trail missing, but I think the BBP is working on those sections currently. I wouldn't recommend biking it unless you have a mountain bike. I saw a golf cart near this section of the path last year. It was off in the trees below the path, but still on the bank. No idea how it ended up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 23 hours ago, Two said: It won the C40 prize for the use and design on that strip. Who knows how serious their partners are but some are definitely wealthy enough to build that project without cost engineering it to a warehouse on a lead ridden mole hill. Say, if the 'partnership' with UT (second largest endowment in the nation at 31.9Bn) is real that alone dwarfs the Rice endowment that's building the Ion. And this is a project whose focus would directly compliment the Ions. Also many large oil companies, like Shell, are under heavy stake holder pressure to divest from Oil, extraction, supply, and refinement capital and move into renewable chain tied ventures. So it's possible they find enough forward thinking institutions to pull it together. But who knows, the website is awfully quite about timelines or finance, just vague 'partnerships' and plenty about their vision etc. considering how much money UT makes from oil, it would be not terribly synergistic for them to help move away from oil. http://www.universitylands.utsystem.edu/ I wonder if they are planning for that future and where their money will come from? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaDolivin Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I think this should be moved or linked to the East End forum. @Urbannizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I think this could be a potential game changer for the area if it gets built and it will be right across from the East River project. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Is Pinto East End part of University of Texas? When I was in high school in Junction, Tx during the summer I worked on an oil rig around Ozona, Tx and a lot of that land was Pinto owned land which I know much of the UT Permanent fund owns. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/East-End-is-roiled-as-mixed-income-housing-plans-14999925.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, hindesky said: Is Pinto East End part of University of Texas? When I was in high school in Junction, Tx during the summer I worked on an oil rig around Ozona, Tx and a lot of that land was Pinto owned land which I know much of the UT Permanent fund owns. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/East-End-is-roiled-as-mixed-income-housing-plans-14999925.php That graphic reminds me of one I saw when I was working downtown for Shell. Except that it was about 100 times more complicated and filled all of one wall of a big conference room. Glad I'm in IT and not a landman. Edited June 1, 2021 by august948 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Jones Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, hindesky said: Is Pinto East End part of University of Texas? When I was in high school in Junction, Tx during the summer I worked on an oil rig around Ozona, Tx and a lot of that land was Pinto owned land which I know much of the UT Permanent fund owns. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/East-End-is-roiled-as-mixed-income-housing-plans-14999925.php Pinto is not part of UT but it is owned by Ernest Cockrell, who is on the advisory board for UT Energy Institute. https://energy.utexas.edu/about/advisory-board/ernest-cockrell The article you linked is for 800 Middle St., which the Houston Housing Authority purchased form Pinto East End (Crockwell) in 2020 for around 15M. They had/have a deal in place with NRP Group to build what is called EADO 800. It looks like it will move forward. See bottom of page 4 (Item #15): https://houstontx.gov/citysec/agenda/2021/Apr0621.pdf Pinto East End (Crockwell) also owns the majority of the land West of Jenson Dr. up to the railroad tracks and Buffalo Bayou (south of 59). The majority of the land is in the works to be purchased by Houston Housing Authority for a development called Standard Jensen Phase I and II. https://houstontx.gov/housing/publiclegal/notices/2020/12/STANDARD_JENSEN_Contract-120820.pdf 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 https://www.c40reinventingcities.org/en/professionals/sites-in-competition/velasco-incinerator-1624.html https://www.c40reinventingcities.org/data/sites_134e6/fiche/390/site_requirements_-_velasco_incinerator_houston_-_reinventing_cities.docx_65e7c.pdf It is adjacent to North Velasco Street and lies just north of a major east-west thoroughfare, Navigation Boulevard. It is only a mile east of Houston’s downtown core and the Central Business District. A key future development in close proximity to the site is the Buffalo Bayou East Masterplan, a waterfront revitalization plan comprised of multimodal connections, small-scale parks and open spaces that will tie the larger destinations together to create a cohesive network of green spaces and attractions that will reinvigorate Buffalo Bayou East. The site has the potential to be aligned and well-integrated with the Buffalo Bayou Partnership’s Buffalo Bayou East Masterplan as an integral part in creating a safe, sustainable, and resilient waterfront. The City sees this competition as an excellent opportunity for private actors to help the city develop climate action innovation, specifically in the field of storm and flood resilient infrastructure and buildings. Teams should explore solutions within the new energy economy area such as the provision of lab spaces and energy transition workforce development centers. Houston is a city that is on a growth path. There has been a trend of densification inside the IH 610 loop. There are no specific zoning requirements in relation to the development of this site. However, constraints due to the former use of the site as an incinerator/landfill, contamination and possible pollution risks will need to be carefully examined. The City of Houston believes the site to be an optimal location for context sensitive design and development that could help improve local environmental quality, provide mixed use development options including housing, retail and co-working spaces, neighborhood amenities such as parks, open spaces, bike and pedestrian infrastructure to improve access and connectivity to highlight the city’s sustainability efforts within a highly visible location. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 This site is developer nightmare fuel: major flooding risk (yup), contaminated site (yup), bad neighbors (a lead battery place YUP).... On a positive note, there is a very nice development going in right across the Bayou so maybe someone will throw a few dollars at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, tangledwoods said: This site is developer nightmare fuel: major flooding risk (yup), contaminated site (yup), bad neighbors (a lead battery place YUP).... On a positive note, there is a very nice development going in right across the Bayou so maybe someone will throw a few dollars at it. It's actually entirely out of the flood plain. East End in general and along the bayou has a very small amount of land inside. The lead place however is a different story. Then again, not much non-industrial land in the East End. Also, sounds like 800 Middle next door is definitely happening. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, wilcal said: It's actually entirely out of the flood plain. East End in general and along the bayou has a very small amount of land inside. Can confirm. The bike trail got Harvey'd, but the land there didn't flood. Didn't make it that far up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Lead Products owns the "mound". That site is a TCEQ VCP site (Voluntary Cleanup Program). This is the most recent update. Looks like the had lead contamination in the groundwater (shocking) but TCEQ no longer requires GW sampling. However, there is still soil contamination (shocking). 9289238 PROJECT PHASE REMEDIATION 05/07/2001 1008459 APPLICABLE PROGRAM RULES RRR 09/05/1996 1010658 CURRENT FACILITY TYPE RECYCLING 09/05/1996 1000230 SITE SIZE 6.15 ACRES 09/05/1996 9292207 SOILS CHEMICAL OF CONCERN CLASSIFICATION METALS 09/05/1996 9305221 SOIL INDIVIDUAL CHEMICALS REQUIRING REMEDY LEAD 09/05/1996 9292208 GW BEARING UNIT DEFAULT GW BEARING UNIT 1 09/05/1996 9305222 GW INDIVIDUAL CHEMICALS REQUIRING REMEDY LEAD 09/05/1996 22284087 GW REPORT DATA YEAR 2021 12/14/2017 22241303 GW CONTAM CONFIRMATION DATE 09/09/1996 11/28/2017 22284088 SITE SUBJECT TO GW MONITORING YES 12/14/2017 22241306 GW REPORT DATA QUALITY E 11/28/2017 22241305 GW REPORT HORIZONTAL ACTIVITY STATUS 5 11/28/2017 22241304 GW REPORT VERTICAL ENFORCEMENT STATUS 0B 11/28/2017 22414332 NOTICE PERFORMED UNDER TWC 26.408 NO 01/30/2018 22414333 NOTICE PERFORMED UNDER TWC 5.236 NO 01/30/2018 23935488 ANNUAL GW REPORT ADDN INFO SITE IS ADDRESSING A REMAINING SOIL CONCERN. TCEQ HAS ALLOWED GROUNDWATER MONITORING TO BE DISCONTINUED. 01/25/2019 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 They have been doing a lot of ground work on the "800" section. It is also now fenced in... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 On 5/25/2021 at 7:33 PM, JBTX said: I love it, it's beautiful. Unfortunately, I think this has "to be scaled back down to earth" written all over it. And "we really want to build this thing in Novosibirsk" written all over it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 6 hours ago, toxtethogrady said: And "we really want to build this thing in Novosibirsk" written all over it... In Novosibirsk Oblast you don't build building, building builds you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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