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Request For Proposal By The City Of Houston At 800 N. Velasco St.


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That looks amazing.  Houston could never get anything this cool.  It would get value-engineered into a box covered in fake stucco.  I could see something like this being built in a more innovative place like China, though.

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3 minutes ago, tangledwoods said:

anytime I see renderings for a project with solar panels I just assume it will never be built....  and this is a mixed use project with solar panels, thats like double proforma confusion....

solar panels, bike storage, hydroponics garden, green wall, it's like buzzword bingo on things that never happen in Houston.

I'll be cheering from the sidelines, but I won't be disappointed when we get a combo storage units/mattress store.

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1 hour ago, samagon said:

solar panels, bike storage, hydroponics garden, green wall, it's like buzzword bingo on things that never happen in Houston.

I'll be cheering from the sidelines, but I won't be disappointed when we get a combo storage units/mattress store.

Add a Starbucks and we'll have a trifecta.

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1 hour ago, wilcal said:

Their partner list. I guess they might have the what, $100 million to do something like this, but I'm guessing not. 

Not having $100 Million is not the same as having no money.  It's unlikely any group (except Rice University) would have the $100 Million in cash to build something like this.  Building the campus would probably be financed.

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It won the C40 prize for the use and design on that strip. Who knows how serious their partners are but some are definitely wealthy enough to build that project without cost engineering it to a warehouse on a lead ridden mole hill.

Say, if the 'partnership' with UT (second largest endowment in the nation at 31.9Bn) is real that alone dwarfs the Rice endowment that's building the Ion. And this is a project whose focus would directly compliment the Ions.

Also many large oil companies, like Shell, are under heavy stake holder pressure to divest from Oil, extraction, supply, and refinement capital and move into renewable chain tied ventures. So it's possible they find enough forward thinking institutions to pull it together. But who knows, the website is awfully quite about timelines or finance, just vague 'partnerships' and plenty about their vision etc.

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Rode down N. Velasco St. There are 4 companies just south of this location, Lead Products, Dixie Plating, Twenty Five, and CCT. The city of Houston owns 4 plots including the fenced off brownfield. The plot closest to Buffalo Bayou is owned buy a company called Pinto East End. Just west the big plot is owned by Houston Housing Authority.

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I think I biked by/through that housing authority lot a couple of weekends ago. Is that the field the trail bi-sects or is that further down? We know a friend with an air quality reader when he goes through there (maybe further down) it's going off a like a Geiger Counter siting on a pile of plutonium. I remember smelling the air in that crossing and you can clearly make out the metal/tinny content, on a bad day it's like swimming in a sea of aersolized nickel and copper. It makes me think there's no way Midway and the city don't already have some sort of legal strategy/plan in mind  - b/c as soon as you make it down to the metal recycle facility and see all their piles hanging over into the bayou and piled high on their lot, its no mystery where it's all coming from.

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16 hours ago, hindesky said:

The only bike trails are along the south side of Buffalo Bayou and when you get close to this site the trail is kind of sketchy with portions missing, I've ridden it twice by myself and I didn't feel safe going there.

I've walked these trails on the south side of the Bayou several times, starting at the Silos and heading east up to N York. There are a few sections of trail missing, but I think the BBP is working on those sections currently. I wouldn't recommend biking it unless you have a mountain bike.

I saw a golf cart near this section of the path last year. It was off in the trees below the path, but still on the bank. No idea how it ended up there. 

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23 hours ago, Two said:

It won the C40 prize for the use and design on that strip. Who knows how serious their partners are but some are definitely wealthy enough to build that project without cost engineering it to a warehouse on a lead ridden mole hill.

Say, if the 'partnership' with UT (second largest endowment in the nation at 31.9Bn) is real that alone dwarfs the Rice endowment that's building the Ion. And this is a project whose focus would directly compliment the Ions.

Also many large oil companies, like Shell, are under heavy stake holder pressure to divest from Oil, extraction, supply, and refinement capital and move into renewable chain tied ventures. So it's possible they find enough forward thinking institutions to pull it together. But who knows, the website is awfully quite about timelines or finance, just vague 'partnerships' and plenty about their vision etc.

considering how much money UT makes from oil, it would be not terribly synergistic for them to help move away from oil.

http://www.universitylands.utsystem.edu/

I wonder if they are planning for that future and where their money will come from?

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Is Pinto East End part of University of Texas?  When I was in high school in Junction, Tx during the summer I worked on an oil rig around Ozona, Tx and a lot of that land was Pinto owned land which I know much of the UT Permanent fund owns.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/East-End-is-roiled-as-mixed-income-housing-plans-14999925.php

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39 minutes ago, hindesky said:

 

Is Pinto East End part of University of Texas?  When I was in high school in Junction, Tx during the summer I worked on an oil rig around Ozona, Tx and a lot of that land was Pinto owned land which I know much of the UT Permanent fund owns.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/East-End-is-roiled-as-mixed-income-housing-plans-14999925.php

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That graphic reminds me of one I saw when I was working downtown for Shell.  Except that it was about 100 times more complicated and filled all of one wall of a big conference room.

Glad I'm in IT and not a landman.

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2 hours ago, hindesky said:

 

Is Pinto East End part of University of Texas?  When I was in high school in Junction, Tx during the summer I worked on an oil rig around Ozona, Tx and a lot of that land was Pinto owned land which I know much of the UT Permanent fund owns.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/East-End-is-roiled-as-mixed-income-housing-plans-14999925.php

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Pinto is not part of UT but it is owned by Ernest Cockrell, who is on the advisory board for UT Energy Institute.

https://energy.utexas.edu/about/advisory-board/ernest-cockrell

The article you linked is for 800 Middle St., which the Houston Housing Authority purchased form Pinto East End (Crockwell) in 2020 for around 15M.  They had/have a deal in place with NRP Group to build what is called EADO 800.  It looks like it will move forward.  See bottom of page 4 (Item #15):

https://houstontx.gov/citysec/agenda/2021/Apr0621.pdf

Pinto East End (Crockwell) also owns the majority of the land West of Jenson Dr. up to the railroad tracks and Buffalo Bayou (south of 59).  The majority of the land is in the works to be purchased by Houston Housing Authority for a development called Standard Jensen Phase I and II.  

https://houstontx.gov/housing/publiclegal/notices/2020/12/STANDARD_JENSEN_Contract-120820.pdf

 

 

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https://www.c40reinventingcities.org/en/professionals/sites-in-competition/velasco-incinerator-1624.html
 

https://www.c40reinventingcities.org/data/sites_134e6/fiche/390/site_requirements_-_velasco_incinerator_houston_-_reinventing_cities.docx_65e7c.pdf

It is adjacent to North Velasco Street and lies just north of a major east-west thoroughfare, Navigation Boulevard. It is only a mile east of Houston’s downtown core and the Central Business District. A key future development in close proximity to the site is the Buffalo Bayou East Masterplan, a waterfront revitalization plan comprised of multimodal connections, small-scale parks and open spaces that will tie the larger destinations together to create a cohesive network of green spaces and attractions that will reinvigorate Buffalo Bayou East. The site has the potential to be aligned and well-integrated with the Buffalo Bayou Partnership’s Buffalo Bayou East Masterplan as an integral part in creating a safe, sustainable, and resilient waterfront. 

The City sees this competition as an excellent opportunity for private actors to help the city develop climate action innovation, specifically in the field of storm and flood resilient infrastructure and buildings. Teams should explore solutions within the new energy economy area such as the provision of lab spaces and energy transition workforce development centers.
 

Houston is a city that is on a growth path. There has been a trend of densification inside the IH 610 loop. There are no specific zoning requirements in relation to the development of this site. However, constraints due to the former use of the site as an incinerator/landfill, contamination and possible pollution risks will need to be carefully examined. 

The City of Houston believes the site to be an optimal location for context sensitive design and development that could help improve local environmental quality, provide mixed use development options including housing, retail and co-working spaces, neighborhood amenities such as parks, open spaces, bike and pedestrian infrastructure to improve access and connectivity to highlight the city’s sustainability efforts within a highly visible location.

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  • The title was changed to 800 N Velasco St. Request for Proposal by the COH

This site is developer nightmare fuel: major flooding risk (yup), contaminated site (yup), bad neighbors (a lead battery place YUP)....

On a positive note, there is a very nice development going in right across the Bayou so maybe someone will throw a few dollars at it.

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1 hour ago, tangledwoods said:

This site is developer nightmare fuel: major flooding risk (yup), contaminated site (yup), bad neighbors (a lead battery place YUP)....

On a positive note, there is a very nice development going in right across the Bayou so maybe someone will throw a few dollars at it.

It's actually entirely out of the flood plain. East End in general and along the bayou has a very small amount of land inside.

The lead place however is a different story. Then again, not much non-industrial land in the East End. 

Also, sounds like 800 Middle next door is definitely happening. 

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2 hours ago, wilcal said:

It's actually entirely out of the flood plain. East End in general and along the bayou has a very small amount of land inside.

Can confirm. The bike trail got Harvey'd, but the land there didn't flood. Didn't make it that far up.

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Lead Products owns the "mound". That site is a TCEQ VCP site (Voluntary Cleanup Program). This is the most recent update. Looks like the had lead contamination in the groundwater (shocking) but TCEQ no longer requires GW sampling. However, there is still soil contamination (shocking).

9289238  PROJECT PHASE  REMEDIATION  05/07/2001  
1008459  APPLICABLE PROGRAM RULES  RRR  09/05/1996  
1010658  CURRENT FACILITY TYPE  RECYCLING  09/05/1996  
1000230  SITE SIZE  6.15 ACRES  09/05/1996  
9292207  SOILS CHEMICAL OF CONCERN CLASSIFICATION  METALS  09/05/1996  
9305221  SOIL INDIVIDUAL CHEMICALS REQUIRING REMEDY  LEAD  09/05/1996  
9292208  GW BEARING UNIT  DEFAULT GW BEARING UNIT 1  09/05/1996  
9305222  GW INDIVIDUAL CHEMICALS REQUIRING REMEDY  LEAD  09/05/1996  
22284087  GW REPORT DATA YEAR  2021  12/14/2017  
22241303  GW CONTAM CONFIRMATION DATE  09/09/1996  11/28/2017  
22284088  SITE SUBJECT TO GW MONITORING  YES  12/14/2017  
22241306  GW REPORT DATA QUALITY  11/28/2017  
22241305  GW REPORT HORIZONTAL ACTIVITY STATUS  11/28/2017  
22241304  GW REPORT VERTICAL ENFORCEMENT STATUS  0B  11/28/2017  
22414332  NOTICE PERFORMED UNDER TWC 26.408  NO  01/30/2018  
22414333  NOTICE PERFORMED UNDER TWC 5.236  NO  01/30/2018  
23935488  ANNUAL GW REPORT ADDN INFO  SITE IS ADDRESSING A REMAINING SOIL CONCERN. TCEQ HAS ALLOWED GROUNDWATER MONITORING TO BE DISCONTINUED.  01/25/2019
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6 hours ago, toxtethogrady said:

And "we really want to build this thing in Novosibirsk" written all over it...

In Novosibirsk Oblast you don't build building, building builds you.

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