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Houston City Council to Vote on Plan for Installation of Information Kiosks - 5/5/2021

Not sure how I feel about this plan. These kiosks seem very large and look as though they could block sizable portions of sidewalks or disrupt any businesses near where they may be installed. Not to mention, it feels like something one step closer to Minority Report-style targeted advertising. 

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Since everyone seems to be walking around staring at his or her i-phone do we really need information kiosks? Besides, those distracted pedestrians will probably walk right into the stationary kiosks then want to sue the City for putting them there. 🙂

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2 hours ago, trymahjong said:

At Council meeting, councilwoman Kamin asked why Houston couldn’t  have a trial program as Dallas did.....?

....mayor replied no, absolutely no!
 

why?

Maybe some goodies have already changed hands behind the scenes?

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On 5/7/2021 at 7:09 AM, trymahjong said:

It could have been Alcorn that posed this question.

 

 

The question was not posed and the Mayor did not give any such response.  Kamin mentioned that a couple other cities have done trial programs, but did not direct a question to the Mayor on the topic and the Mayor did not respond to her mentioning of trial programs.  Also, Kamin allowed as to how the Houston program does, in effect, include a trial program, as there is a pause for reevaluation after 30 [IIRC] kiosks are installed. 

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On 5/5/2021 at 7:29 AM, Specwriter said:

Since everyone seems to be walking around staring at his or her i-phone do we really need information kiosks? Besides, those distracted pedestrians will probably walk right into the stationary kiosks then want to sue the City for putting them there. 🙂

Or they'll be riding one of those rental scooters when they collide into it. I see more of them downtown now since vehicle and pedestrian traffic is lighter.

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On 5/7/2021 at 9:58 AM, Houston19514 said:

The question was not posed and the Mayor didn't not give any such response.  Kamin mentioned that a couple other cities have done trial programs, but did not direct a question to the Mayor on the topic and the Mayor did not respond to her mentioning of trial programs.  Also, Kamin allowed as to how the Houston program does, in effect, include a trial program, as there is a pause for reevaluation after 30 [IIRC] kiosks are installed. 

Oh my mea culpa

i will take you at your word that you reviewed every word of the council meeting.

There are those of us that stream those  council meetings and take notes. At some instances, a conversation with our 90 year old Mother ( who quarantines  with me) must be maintained at the same time one tries to take notes of the council procedures. At really special instances, ones grandchildren might have been dropped offunexpectantly  ( both parents got 2nd vaccine and had bad reaction) during the HTV council live stream meeting. When that happens, one try’s to listen and take notes, or try to go over what one thinks was said and tries to jot that down. Or one happens to notice a big frown or shaking of head or rolled eyes during a conversation thread by council members and jots that down. But the Grandkids and the elderly mother  both vie for attention as one are glancing at the council meeting streaming on TV. 
That is a lot of information that is meaningless I guess; until you are called out twice for info you got wrong. So what can we garner from that?  Wellllllll That there are people like me that try to stay “current” on a particular subject that has importance to them. People like me who are still quarantine  and not going to inperson meetings. So still try to get information while other things are going on in the household. 
 

afterall that- please let me say thank you for garnering the council information. This kiosk thing is a huge issue to me and my neighbors as we live close to Westheimer and Montrose and have a fatalistic view that a kiosk placement is in our future. Thank you for the correction— The integrity of the information about this issue is important. 
Yup - wanting to contribute to an intelligent conversation  thread online about,  anticipating that will make me feel more connected during a time of isolation. 
 

 

uitiosam colit ego sum

 

 

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On 5/4/2021 at 10:20 AM, thedistrict84 said:

Houston City Council to Vote on Plan for Installation of Information Kiosks - 5/5/2021

Not sure how I feel about this plan. These kiosks seem very large and look as though they could block sizable portions of sidewalks or disrupt any businesses near where they may be installed. Not to mention, it feels like something one step closer to Minority Report-style targeted advertising. 

If the sidewalk is too narrow, then the city needs to widen it. Plus I highly doubt these will be going in areas with sidewalks that are only 3 feet. I personally think these are going to be great. We need more eye catching, pedestrian friendly things like this. 

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On 6/23/2021 at 1:14 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

If the sidewalk is too narrow, then the city needs to widen it. Plus I highly doubt these will be going in areas with sidewalks that are only 3 feet. I personally think these are going to be great. We need more eye catching, pedestrian friendly things like this. 

Is there any new developments on this issue ?

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22 hours ago, Blue Dogs said:

Is there any new developments on this issue ?

https://abc13.com/digital-kiosk-houston-billboards-city-council-vote/10584483/

 

Those that voted against the kiosks and were in favor of an app and QR codes fail to realize that when you want someone to come to your city, you don't want them stuck on their phones in your city about your city. I'd rather have visitors interacting and looking at our city. 

It just shows some of the nearsightedness by the city at times. In all honesty, not many people are going to have a random app from another city on their phone. Most people won't even take the time to search and download it.

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On 9/14/2021 at 2:24 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

https://abc13.com/digital-kiosk-houston-billboards-city-council-vote/10584483/

 

Those that voted against the kiosks and were in favor of an app and QR codes fail to realize that when you want someone to come to your city, you don't want them stuck on their phones in your city about your city. I'd rather have visitors interacting and looking at our city. 

It just shows some of the nearsightedness by the city at times. In all honesty, not many people are going to have a random app from another city on their phone. Most people won't even take the time to search and download it.

Now what could possibly go wrong ?

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This will be a new service to the city and we will gain money from it, not lose money from it. As long as they are not obstructing pedestrians and bicycles from moving along the sidewalks, I don’t mind a little “clutter” and I don’t mind the right of way being amended to include non-transportation amenities, I think that positions our city to use our right of ways for a larger variety of services.

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I worry about the noise level.

yes- I did anticipate that living in Montrose, with all the bars and restaurants and traffic noise— might give me a noisier environment than most. But fair is fair- NO WANTS TO LIVE  WITH EXTREME VOLUME AT 3AM-

COH  noise ordinances were put in place so neighborhoods had a chance of keeping noise levels somewhat in control.

I haven’t heard what the noise level will be with these things…..so I worry out how loud these things are going to be.

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3 hours ago, trymahjong said:

I worry about the noise level.

yes- I did anticipate that living in Montrose, with all the bars and restaurants and traffic noise— might give me a noisier environment than most. But fair is fair- NO WANTS TO LIVE  WITH EXTREME VOLUME AT 3AM-

COH  noise ordinances were put in place so neighborhoods had a chance of keeping noise levels somewhat in control.

I haven’t heard what the noise level will be with these things…..so I worry out how loud these things are going to be.

I don't think the kiosks will even have speakers. In any event, I see no reason they wouldn't be subject to the city's noise ordinance.

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17 hours ago, trymahjong said:

Hmmmmmm

The kiosks we’re part of agenda discussion at Montrose TIRZ…………….yes,everyone there got the idea  each kiosk has a speaker inside.

Since everyone there got that idea, did anyone there ask any questions about the sound they are concerned will be projecting from the kiosks?  Seems like an opportune moment to address those concerns.  Or, did anyone send a follow-up question to the IKC SmartCity rep (who gave out her direct email address) asking to address this very worrying question?

It turns out getting an answer to this concern was extraordinarily easy.  I emailed the company late last night and they already responded this morning. 

"The only speaker on the kiosk is for the Emergency Call Button, which is only activated when pressed and allows for two-way communication between the user and the local police. Otherwise, the kiosks do not emit any noise."

 

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Oh my I reached out to Sallie Acorns office and received similar reply.


- The only speaker on the kiosk is for the Emergency Call Button, which is only activated when pressed and allows for two-way communication between the user and the local police. Otherwise, the kiosks do not emit any noise.
- As stated above, there will not be any music played from the kiosks, or any other noise.
 

I am so glad to settle this

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On 1/12/2022 at 12:38 PM, trymahjong said:

Oh my I reached out to Sallie Acorns office and received similar reply.


- The only speaker on the kiosk is for the Emergency Call Button, which is only activated when pressed and allows for two-way communication between the user and the local police. Otherwise, the kiosks do not emit any noise.
- As stated above, there will not be any music played from the kiosks, or any other noise.
 

I am so glad to settle this

Now that's intriguing to find out. 

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