JBTX Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, EaDolivin said: Man...that's a LOT of land. Yup. Hope the brick building brick stays too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 For reference, I tried to make a scale representation of what the Montrose HEB would look like on the site: DEFINITELY has space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedistrict84 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, wilcal said: For reference, I tried to make a scale representation of what the Montrose HEB would look like on the site: DEFINITELY has space. I live a few blocks away and wholeheartedly endorse your idea of putting an HEB here. Anybody have Scott McClelland’s email address? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaDolivin Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 While my hopes are high, I guess I should temper my expectations a bit. The avg income levels/pop density in this area right now are still too low for a Gucci-B to be built here, I think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77011transplant Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 10 hours ago, wilcal said: For reference, I tried to make a scale representation of what the Montrose HEB would look like on the site: DEFINITELY has space. They could put the HEB AND affordable housing across the street! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 4 hours ago, EaDolivin said: While my hopes are high, I guess I should temper my expectations a bit. The avg income levels/pop density in this area right now are still too low for a Gucci-B to be built here, I think. What happens when you throw Downtown Houston into the mix, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedistrict84 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 6 hours ago, 77011transplant said: They could put the HEB AND affordable housing across the street! I assume you’re being sarcastic, but just in case: there is already a new 180 unit 55+ affordable housing complex directly across Delano, and a 120 unit complex at the northeast corner of Delano and Canal. There are numerous other affordable housing complexes within 1-2 miles. I think we’re good. We do need some more market rate stuff to come online, soon. Hopefully that will be a component of this (eventual) development. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77011transplant Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, thedistrict84 said: I assume you’re being sarcastic, but just in case: there is already a new 180 unit 55+ affordable housing complex directly across Delano, and a 120 unit complex at the northeast corner of Delano and Canal. There are numerous other affordable housing complexes within 1-2 miles. I think we’re good. We do need some more market rate stuff to come online, soon. Hopefully that will be a component of this (eventual) development. Yup - just a joke! Well, joking about the affordable housing part. Not the HEB part. Inject the HEB into my veins and neighborhood! Edited May 22, 2021 by 77011transplant 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartiMoser Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Not to be the correctness cop, but lower income families have to live somewhere. And as far as I know, if my dad, grandmother,and the 2 littler siblings lived there in 1936 it definitely wasn't Silk Stocking Lane as daddy always called the fancier parts of Houston. They didn't have a pot to pee in or a window to throw it out of. In an unrelated and related subject, my little brother born in 1959 was a red headed freckled mess. He was nicknamed Mr. Olshan after the demolition branch of Olshans. If given the chance I know for a fact he'd be able to tear up an anvil. ❤️ Photo was snapped shortly after throwing a few brick around from the bbq pit construction situation. 3 years old. Old Chocolate Bayou Rd memories. Lol. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77011transplant Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Agreed that affordable housing is important, and I'm happy a handful of complexes are going in on the East End. I also think that affordable housing should be spread equitably throughout the city. Cute picture! 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEndHeritage Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 4:19 PM, 77011transplant said: I also think that affordable housing should be spread equitably throughout the city. Exactly my point! The Heights have been successfully fighting affordable housing. Karla Cisneros sure loves putting these type of projects in the East End, but fight them off in her neighborhood in the Heights. 7 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 imagine someone trying to put affordable housing in Uptown! oh wait, it would have created too much traffic, but they can have all the non-affordable housing, that doesn't create any traffic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 3:25 PM, Texasota said: I really hope they have the good sense to keep that 4 story brick warehouse. I said the same in an earlier post. If I owned the land, I would make that little building a central focal point for the rest of the development area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaDolivin Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I noticed today that they're piling up all the metal racks and what not in containers to haul away. I'm assuming next is tear down/demolition of the structures around the property? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) That would be my guess, yeah. Not sure there is much reuse/remodel potential (except the brick building). Edited June 22, 2021 by JBTX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapo2367 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Ok got way too down the rabbit hole on this one, but found this quote in the linked document concerning this site (P49) "Current land use of the Olshan property is commercial; however, planned future use of the subject property is residential redevelopment." https://www.publicworks.houstontx.gov/sites/default/files/assets/msd-application_2019_129_olc.pdf from 2019, so take from that what you will. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljchou Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 15 hours ago, sapo2367 said: Ok got way too down the rabbit hole on this one, but found this quote in the linked document concerning this site (P49) "Current land use of the Olshan property is commercial; however, planned future use of the subject property is residential redevelopment." https://www.publicworks.houstontx.gov/sites/default/files/assets/msd-application_2019_129_olc.pdf from 2019, so take from that what you will. Web sleuth of the year award. Would love for the area to be less industrial so I am here for residential. I live just east of York St and there's such a disconnect between the retail/residential area of Commerce (near tout suite/cidercade) and the connection to the York/Sampson corridor and it's primarily that long stretch of land occupied by Olshan. That'd be a great connection to the Second Ward/East End neighborhoods. I wonder if the East End Center of Commerce is aware of these updates and incorporated them into their plans for the Navigation Esplanade? I know Commerce and Canal were on those drawings. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljchou Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 hours ago, ljchou said: Web sleuth of the year award. Would love for the area to be less industrial so I am here for residential. I live just east of York St and there's such a disconnect between the retail/residential area of Commerce (near tout suite/cidercade) and the connection to the York/Sampson corridor and it's primarily that long stretch of land occupied by Olshan. That'd be a great connection to the Second Ward/East End neighborhoods. I wonder if the East End Center of Commerce is aware of these updates and incorporated them into their plans for the Navigation Esplanade? I know Commerce and Canal were on those drawings. just checked and they do not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 I found the JLL listing brochure for the property: https://research.catylist.com/api/images/data/og/media/user_uploads/6075bf12e88abb000181214f_olshan_eado_flyer_sm.pdf I can't tell how old it is (lists that there is an ongoing Lease until June 2021, but also shows a mostly built out Forth at Navigation on the photos). Page 11, showing the back part of 8th Wonder as the "Navigation Esplanade" made me laugh a little. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapo2367 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Triggering for all the East End people 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaDolivin Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, sapo2367 said: Triggering for all the East End people Where did you get this from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapo2367 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 This is from @JBTX's post above! https://research.catylist.com/api/images/data/og/media/user_uploads/6075bf12e88abb000181214f_olshan_eado_flyer_sm.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 77011transplant Posted June 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) Okay everyone. All together now... 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ HEB 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ Edited June 24, 2021 by 77011transplant 7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaDolivin Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 anybody have any additional insight into what this property will be used for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapo2367 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I don’t think the whole conversation got moved over here from The Mill thread, but it looks like this property is under contract and the rumor is that Tillman Fertitta/Landrys has bought it. I walked by today and there were some fresh surveying stakes marking the property boundaries, but not much more has changed. https://www.us.jll.com/en/investorcenter/land-development-site/12-acre-infill-oz-development-opportunity-with-adaptive-reuse-buildings-houston-houston-tx-unitedstates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 12/4/2021 at 12:41 PM, sapo2367 said: I don’t think the whole conversation got moved over here from The Mill thread, but it looks like this property is under contract and the rumor is that Tillman Fertitta/Landrys has bought it. I walked by today and there were some fresh surveying stakes marking the property boundaries, but not much more has changed. https://www.us.jll.com/en/investorcenter/land-development-site/12-acre-infill-oz-development-opportunity-with-adaptive-reuse-buildings-houston-houston-tx-unitedstates Do we know of any other Fertitta-developed mixed use or other type of land use besides restaurants that he has been involved in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, wilcal said: Do we know of any other Fertitta-developed mixed use or other type of land use besides restaurants that he has been involved in? Not that I know of, but I don't really like him that much, so don't pay that much attention to what he does, other than hope he doesn't manage to make Galveston Island look like Miami beach. I will believe Fertitta bought the Olshan property when the deed is recorded. Until then, it's just supposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 19 hours ago, wilcal said: Do we know of any other Fertitta-developed mixed use or other type of land use besides restaurants that he has been involved in? Do casinos count as mixed use? 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Rumored practice facility? Probably not but it would make more sense than Clear Lake as mentioned in the article. https://houston.culturemap.com/news/city-life/10-08-18-toyota-center-turns-15-houston-rockets-tilman-fertitta-tad-davis-houston-astros-jim-crane/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 21 hours ago, wilcal said: Do we know of any other Fertitta-developed mixed use or other type of land use besides restaurants that he has been involved in? he has at least one warehouse that I know of https://www.google.com/maps/place/Landry'S/@29.7843687,-95.4536611,16z/data=!4m9!1m2!2m1!1sLandry's!3m5!1s0x8640c6c6e34d8a25:0x6bcba908a3d2846c!8m2!3d29.7845155!4d-95.4539067!15sCghMYW5kcnkncyIDiAEB would be a terribly disappointing result if that's what this was slated to become. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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