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I like the way these actually try to interact with the street grid more than a median style transit route; the shepherd transit center is a good idea, but it would mean losing that Saltgrass steakhouse.

 

The studemont stop will be close to Kroger - I didn't even realize that before.  Could be a nice way to do a grocery run for downtown residents, depending on how well the transit center connects to it

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4 hours ago, cspwal said:

I like the way these actually try to interact with the street grid more than a median style transit route; the shepherd transit center is a good idea, but it would mean losing that Saltgrass steakhouse.

 

The studemont stop will be close to Kroger - I didn't even realize that before.  Could be a nice way to do a grocery run for downtown residents, depending on how well the transit center connects to it

This area has the potential for serious walkability but it sucks when you have a car wash going in just a few blocks away. Not against the car wash but we need wider sidewalks along Studemont to provide good pedestrian  activity. 

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Houston19514

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On 2/2/2021 at 2:52 PM, JJxvi said:

The complete impossibility of connecting these two lines with Memorial Park annoys me.

 

On 2/2/2021 at 3:20 PM, Texasota said:

It's not impossible at all; it's just not part of the plan. Assuming this gets built as presented, an obvious future step (to me at least) would be to add an infill station where I-10 crosses Westcott/Washington. That would serve as a western Cottage Grove/Rice Military Station, but it would also provide easy access to Memorial Park. Direct access to the Memorial Park Loop and sports fields specifically.

Good news!  Metro is in discussions with the City and Memorial Park Conservancy exploring the possibility of adding a station at Memorial Park for the Inner Katy BRT.

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On 4/5/2021 at 5:33 PM, j_cuevas713 said:

This area has the potential for serious walkability but it sucks when you have a car wash going in just a few blocks away. Not against the car wash but we need wider sidewalks along Studemont to provide good pedestrian  activity. 

I would think that having wider sidewalks is a function of the size of the city owned right of way rather than what businesses are along the street.  Typically, the city owns property wider than the street itself so it can build whatever it wants along it's right of way.  So the question is how far past the curbs does the city own?

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Good news!  Metro is in discussions with the City and Memorial Park Conservancy exploring the possibility of adding a station at Memorial Park for the Inner Katy BRT.

Seems like given the festivals and events that take place at memorial park it would have been part of the original plan.

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On 2/26/2021 at 12:10 PM, pablog said:

I vote for Option D because the above are atrocious:

 

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So, the way I read your proposal is that we drop nuclear weapons on the westbound frontage and main lanes, build third world quality buildings on the managed lanes and have people living on the the eastbound main lanes since they're too afraid to live in a ramshackle midrise?

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On 4/27/2021 at 4:59 PM, august948 said:

Typically, the city owns property wider than the street itself so it can build whatever it wants along it's right of way.  So the question is how far past the curbs does the city own?

 

IIRC from dealing with HCFCD during the Ardmore St bridge project, the ROW extends 16 1/2 ft from the back edge of the curb.

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9 hours ago, JLWM8609 said:

IIRC from dealing with HCFCD during the Ardmore St bridge project, the ROW extends 16 1/2 ft from the back edge of the curb.

Yes. It can vary, but according to the Public Works website, the city's right-of-way extends "approximately 16 feet from the back of the curb."

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On 4/27/2021 at 3:48 PM, Houston19514 said:

 

Good news!  Metro is in discussions with the City and Memorial Park Conservancy exploring the possibility of adding a station at Memorial Park for the Inner Katy BRT.

Excellent

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Justin Welling

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Yesterday, there was a Capital & Strategic Committee Mtg and a big portion of it was on Inner-Katy. As of now, looks like staff will recommend 3 stations - Memorial Park, Shepherd/Durham, and Studemont. I think not having a fourth station at Yale/Heights will be a huge miss as Studemont will not really connect to the Heights. Again, these can possibly change as options still remain open, but seems like this is the stance METRO is taking with stations. 

Design should start after August 2022 and they mentioned a 2027 opening as well. 

Meeting will be linked below:

https://ridemetro.granicus.com/player/clip/2263?view_id=5&redirect=true

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BEES?!

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I was actually gonna mention that! Looks like you beat me to the punch :)

Also, they mentioned the downtown segment- they’re pushing for the Franklin/Bagby station, they’ll be using the Capitol/Rusk alignment, and they’ll have a station at EaDo/St Emmanuel. 
 

I was still sort of unclear on how they’ll use the LRT infrastructure - are they gonna be literally driving on the tracks? Or is it another separate lane?

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I like the idea of a Memorial Park station.  Then I can get from downtown to the park without having to drive. 

The Shepherd might have potential, but I'd have to see a map of the proposed alignment.

I don't know that a fourth station is needed, but I certainly think Yale/Heights would be better than Studemont.   More access to commercial space and higher density housing.  Unless the idea is to spur such development in the Studemont area. 

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On 3/20/2022 at 11:54 AM, editor said:

I like the idea of a Memorial Park station.  Then I can get from downtown to the park without having to drive. 

The Shepherd might have potential, but I'd have to see a map of the proposed alignment.

I don't know that a fourth station is needed, but I certainly think Yale/Heights would be better than Studemont.   More access to commercial space and higher density housing.  Unless the idea is to spur such development in the Studemont area. 

studemont has the new metro boost thing so I think they are trying to spur more medium/high density development along it, but I agree, yale/heights would make more sense IMO

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2 hours ago, pokemonizepic said:

studemont has the new metro boost thing so I think they are trying to spur more medium/high density development along it, but I agree, yale/heights would make more sense IMO

Yeah but Studemont def needs more density. It looks terrible right now.

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On 5/17/2022 at 4:38 PM, BEES?! said:

Metro posted the PDF for the May 4th virtual meeting.

Wow... That was a lot of unnecessary hunting and clicking to get to that document.  Reminds me of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

“But the plans were on display…”

“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

“That’s the display department.”

“With a flashlight.”

“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”

“So had the stairs.”

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard.'”

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Given that a number of the other line/route specific projects have threads are being kept up with - and this project has been mentioned elsewhere I thought it would make sense to add to it.

https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2023/02/01/metros-inner-katy-corridor-project-advances-to-design-phase/ - From 2/1/23

"The Federal Transit Administration has now approved the categorical exclusion for this project, said Tom Lambert, Metropolitan Transit Authority of Harris County CEO, during a Jan. 26 board meeting.

“This milestone moves this regionally significant project forward into the design phase,” Lambert said."

This is the current version of the route on the METRO page for the project.

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Amlaham

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20 hours ago, JClark54 said:

METRO posted a project video yesterday: 

 

I don't see why they can't just do it over the HOV lane in the middle of the highway instead of cutting down those hundreds of trees/ expanding the width of the highway.

I might be alone on this, but I hateeeeee the design.  

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2 hours ago, Amlaham said:

I don't see why they can't just do it over the HOV lane in the middle of the highway instead of cutting down those hundreds of trees/ expanding the width of the highway.

I might be alone on this, but I hateeeeee the design.  

I've been thinking the same man! 

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2 hours ago, Amlaham said:

I don't see why they can't just do it over the HOV lane in the middle of the highway instead of cutting down those hundreds of trees/ expanding the width of the highway.

I might be alone on this, but I hateeeeee the design.  

Maybe because there is no HOV lane in the middle of the highway??

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8 hours ago, xbryanisbeastx said:

I'm sure we've been over this many times but I wish they woulda just extended the green or purple line down washington :(

By doing this you ends up having maybe 100x more protests than the current BRT route. 

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15 hours ago, xbryanisbeastx said:

I'm sure we've been over this many times but I wish they woulda just extended the green or purple line down washington :(

I don't think these are mutually exclusive options. The Inner Katy BRT is a true "express" route from Downtown to Uptown. A Washington tram line would (presumably) be more local. 

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17 hours ago, Houston19514 said:

Maybe because there is no HOV lane in the middle of the highway??

There are bus lanes in the middle of 610 that were recently built without HOV lanes. There doesn't need to be HOV lanes to build elevated lanes in the middle. 

14 hours ago, 004n063 said:

Also, stations in the middle of the highway?

In all fairness, whoever is using it to go to the Heights (north of i10) will still have to cross the highway with the current design, at least if it was in the middle it would be split between those traveling north and south of i10. 

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Houston19514

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3 hours ago, Amlaham said:

There are bus lanes in the middle of 610 that were recently built without HOV lanes. There doesn't need to be HOV lanes to build elevated lanes in the middle. 

But there does need to be HOV lanes in order to build elevated lanes above HOV  lanes as you proposed.  😉

But more to the point, probably because TxDot is planning to construct elevated managed lanes above the center of the freeway.

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50 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

But there does need to be HOV lanes in order to build elevated lanes above HOV  lanes as you proposed.  😉

But more to the point, probably because TxDot is planning to construct elevated managed lanes above the center of the freeway.

Ohhhh I see what you mean. There aren't HOV lanes on that portion of i10. I really wish they would replicate the 610 portion of the bus lanes. 

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